Do You Think it's OK to Ban Whole Breeds of Dogs?

[Southern Belle]

Breed Specific Legeslation bans certain breeds of dogs from cities, and heavily restricts those that are already there, just because of bad owners who use their own dogs as fighting and attack dogs.

This says the humans are too lazy to hold the bad owners accountable. If you want to own a big powerful dog, if it acts up, the punishment should be SEVERE against the owners. That way, it would scare other stupid owners and make them think owning the breed would be more trouble than it's worth.

I have a Rottweiler as a family pet. We never teased him, we socialized him, and petted and loved him. He's so lovable, and his temperment is wonderful.

It makes me very sick inside that if I moved to this certain city, Buck wouldn't be able to come with us on account of some ignorant discriminating people. We got rid of racism in our own species, now we're putting it onto our own pets. How freakishly twisted.

DANGIT! I forgot to make a poll AGAIN!! Sorry! (Are polls nesesarry?)

Should whole breeds of dogs be banned from cities?
Yes
No

 

[ARealConservative]

yes.


I would prefer the decision comes from home owners associations - and not government, but absolutely the people in a community should be able to come to a consensus regarding what is and is not allowed.

 

[Southern Belle]

yes.


I would prefer the decision comes from home owners associations - and not government, but absolutely the people in a community should be able to come to a consensus regarding what is and is not allowed.

Aren't Home Owners Associations in fancy neighborhoods? I'm talking about banning them from whole cities, sure it'd be fine in certain neighborhoods, nobody HAS to live there, but not from a city or town!

 

[jfuh]

Breed Specific Legeslation bans certain breeds of dogs from cities, and heavily restricts those that are already there, just because of bad owners who use their own dogs as fighting and attack dogs.

This says the humans are too lazy to hold the bad owners accountable. If you want to own a big powerful dog, if it acts up, the punishment should be SEVERE against the owners. That way, it would scare other stupid owners and make them think owning the breed would be more trouble than it's worth.

I have a Rottweiler as a family pet. We never teased him, we socialized him, and petted and loved him. He's so lovable, and his temperment is wonderful.

It makes me very sick inside that if I moved to this certain city, Buck wouldn't be able to come with us on account of some ignorant discriminating people. We got rid of racism in our own species, now we're putting it onto our own pets. How freakishly twisted.

DANGIT! I forgot to make a poll AGAIN!! Sorry! (Are polls nesesarry?)

Should whole breeds of dogs be banned from cities?
Yes
No

Absolutely not. The whole thing is pathetic and stupid.
It's the same mentality as ppl whom say gays can not marry - a complete intolerance of others or what they themselves deem unfashionable.
I completely despise my home owners association as I do with most others. Some idiot goes on a power trip as the president then enforces the rules unjustly - fortunately I've been here before the foundation of the association so they can't do much to me.
HOA's need to get their heads out of their asses and get a life.

 

[jfuh]

Aren't Home Owners Associations in fancy neighborhoods? I'm talking about banning them from whole cities, sure it'd be fine in certain neighborhoods, nobody HAS to live there, but not from a city or town!

I agree, ban HOA's, most do very very little if nothing at all of benefit.

 

[jallman]

No it is not OK to ban whole breeds of dogs (domesticated, of course). Responsibility for the dog's actions rests with the owners and anything the dog does should be treated as an extension of the owner. If the dog viciously attacks another person, then the owner should be prosecuted as if he, himself, did it. If the dog viciously attacks another animal, the owner himself should be prosecuted for animal cruelty. Further, one offense and one only and he should be relieved of the care of his dog. Having a dog should be like having a gun...it should be licensed and responsibility for what happens with the dog should rest on the licensed owner.

 

[ARealConservative]

Aren't Home Owners Associations in fancy neighborhoods? I'm talking about banning them from whole cities, sure it'd be fine in certain neighborhoods, nobody HAS to live there, but not from a city or town!

Home Owners Associations are not limited to fancy neighborhoods. As I mentioned previously, I would prefer this not be a function of government, but the smaller the government, the more open I am to the idea.

Do you support city building codes? Zoning laws? How is this different?

 

[Southern Belle]

Home Owners Associations are not limited to fancy neighborhoods. As I mentioned previously, I would prefer this not be a function of government, but the smaller the government, the more open I am to the idea.

Do you support city building codes? Zoning laws? How is this different?

You mean do I support cities making laws to make the city better? Sure...

*You know what might make the city even better? If only whites and Asians were allowed to live there! Blacks and Mexicans are too dangerious, they are always fighting and attacking and committing crimes, so lets just ban them altogether, nobody actially likes them anyway except for other bad people so nobody will care.*


*Yes, that is HEAVY sarcasm.

 

[ARealConservative]

You mean do I support cities making laws to make the city better? Sure... You know what might make the city even better? If only whites and Asians were allowed to live there! Blacks and Mexicans are too dangerious, they are always fighting and attacking and committing crimes, so lets just ban them altogether, nobody actially likes them anyway except for other bad people so nobody will care.*


*Yes, that is HEAVY sarcasm.

Don't you think ordinances restricting types of dogs were done with the intention of making the city better?

Do you believe that dog ownership should be a protected right.

Life, liberty, and any type of dog I damn well want. (yes that is HEAVY sarcasm)

 

[jamesrage]

Breed Specific Legeslation bans certain breeds of dogs from cities, and heavily restricts those that are already there, just because of bad owners who use their own dogs as fighting and attack dogs.

This says the humans are too lazy to hold the bad owners accountable. If you want to own a big powerful dog, if it acts up, the punishment should be SEVERE against the owners. That way, it would scare other stupid owners and make them think owning the breed would be more trouble than it's worth.

I have a Rottweiler as a family pet. We never teased him, we socialized him, and petted and loved him. He's so lovable, and his temperment is wonderful.

It makes me very sick inside that if I moved to this certain city, Buck wouldn't be able to come with us on account of some ignorant discriminating people. We got rid of racism in our own species, now we're putting it onto our own pets. How freakishly twisted.

DANGIT! I forgot to make a poll AGAIN!! Sorry! (Are polls nesesarry?)

Should whole breeds of dogs be banned from cities?
Yes
No

I think it is absurd to ban a breed of dogs.Laws however should make the owner a hundred percent responsible for anything his or her dog does.A lot of bad dog behavior usually seems to be the result of some knuckle head trying to make his dog tough or meaner such putting their hand on the dog's muzzle and shaking it around or anything else they can to make the dog more aggressive.

Usually most of these idiots who want certian breeds of dogs banned believe in the most absurd myths like the one about the pit bull
(American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Argentine Dogo, English Bull Terrier, the American Bulldog, and the Perro de Presa Canario ) having lockjaw,thus right there showing they know absolutely know nothing of the breeds.

 

[Southern Belle]

Don't you think ordinances restricting types of dogs were done with the intention of making the city better?

Do you believe that dog ownership should be a protected right.

Life, liberty, and any type of dog I damn well want. (yes that is HEAVY sarcasm)

Nice try, but actually I'd RATHER have enforced rules on owners, making dog attacks a felony for ALL breeds.

 

[RightOfCenter]

Don't you think ordinances restricting types of dogs were done with the intention of making the city better?

Do you believe that dog ownership should be a protected right.

Life, liberty, and any type of dog I damn well want. (yes that is HEAVY sarcasm)

Well dogs are property and people have a right to property don't they? Ownership of a dog is just as protected as ownership of a computer, couch, car, or home.

 

[jamesrage]

No it is not OK to ban whole breeds of dogs (domesticated, of course). Responsibility for the dog's actions rests with the owners and anything the dog does should be treated as an extension of the owner. If the dog viciously attacks another person, then the owner should be prosecuted as if he, himself, did it. If the dog viciously attacks another animal, the owner himself should be prosecuted for animal cruelty. Further, one offense and one only and he should be relieved of the care of his dog. Having a dog should be like having a gun...it should be licensed and responsibility for what happens with the dog should rest on the licensed owner.

I agree,because usually vicious dog attacks happen as a direct result of a dog owner's negligence and the dog is usually vicious because the owner made it that way.You can make any dog mean and vicious.I bet if someone had enough time on their hands they can train a whole pack of Chihuahuas to be vicious guard dogs,(that would be funny to a security tape of a burglar getting attacked by a pack of Chihuahuas.)

 

[jallman]

Nice try, but actually I'd RATHER have enforced rules on owners, making dog attacks a felony for ALL breeds.

Absolutely!!!!! A dog attack is a dog attack is a dog attack. Injury is the responsibility of the owner whether it was a poodle or an Irish wolfhound. Period.

 

[ARealConservative]

Well dogs are property and people have a right to property don't they? Ownership of a dog is just as protected as ownership of a computer, couch, car, or home.

Man that would be great.

Assault rifles and Income are property too.

 

[ARealConservative]

Nice try, but actually I'd RATHER have enforced rules on owners, making dog attacks a felony for ALL breeds.

It's not that I disagree, I am trying to frame the debate in a way that fits present day reality.

Why is it ok for a city to pass a law stating what size windows a bedroom needs, but wouldn't be ok to ban certain types of dogs?

 

[Southern Belle]

Man that would be great.

Assault rifles and Income are property too.

So is a vehicle...

 

[ARealConservative]

So is a vehicle...

Sure is. Certian vehicles aren't allowed. Window tintings, tire sizes, etc, etc.

 

[Southern Belle]

It's not that I disagree, I am trying to frame the debate in a way that fits present day reality.

Why is it ok for a city to pass a law stating what size windows a bedroom needs, but wouldn't be ok to ban certain types of dogs?

Oh ok. Because Dogs are alive and they have feelings, and they are part of the family.

 

[ARealConservative]

Oh ok. Because Dogs are alive and they have feelings, and they are part of the family.

So as long as I take responsibility for any damage done by my alligator I am free to keep one until it causes harm and cities shouldn't be able to pass laws restricting me from owning one.

 

[Southern Belle]

So as long as I take responsibility for any damage done by my alligator I am free to keep one until it causes harm and cities shouldn't be able to pass laws restricting me from owning one.

And dogs are also domesticated. Not all animals are able to be domesticated, some are wild. ^_^

Cats are wild. I'm not a cat person. Since cats are wild there needs to be something done, I'm not sure what... I wouldn't mind if cats were treated like all the other wild animals, or kept inside. Kind of a double standard with cats...

 

[ARealConservative]

And dogs are also domesticated. Not all animals are able to be domesticated, some are wild. ^_^

So you have a right to keeping any domesticated animal you wish but cities can pass laws preventing wild animals from being kept.

Explain how you found the power to outlaw one animal but not the other for me please.

 

[disneydude]

Absolutely not:

Just more big government interference into areas that need not be regulated in that manner.
Most of the paranoia is perpetuated by a few bad situations that have received a lot of media attention.

A few years ago the city of Denver, in all its lack of intelligence and knee-jerk reactionism....banned pitbulls.

The reality is, there were very very few instances of reported problems, but yet the city council of Denver voted for the ban.

I know that Denver is a very gun friendly area....and without getting into a debate of the 2nd amendment....let me just say that I think I can safely argue that there have been a lot more people killed and injured with guns in Denver than have ever been injured or killed by pitbulls.....but you would never see the City of Denver try to restrict guns......just a thought.

 

[Southern Belle]

So you have a right to keeping any domesticated animal you wish but cities can pass laws preventing wild animals from being kept.

Explain how you found the power to outlaw one animal but not the other for me please.

Domesticated usually means very trainable, you can't train an alligator not to bite, but you can train a Rottweiler not to. I don't think you can train a cat but I'm not sure.

Also I think wild animals might be happier in the wild but domesticated animals are happier with people, I know Rottweilers love people.

Birds are also wild too, hmm, but they don't swoop down and attack people, they keep to themselves. I had a very sweet Cockatiel one time...I dunno...

 

[ARealConservative]

Absolutely not:

Just more big government interference into areas that need not be regulated in that manner.

Oh, I know your type well. the only area's that need regulation are the ones you personally agree with.