Do you think it's ok for gays to adopt?

[americanwoman]

This is bullcrap. Today being gay is glamorized in both movies and television…on ABC, NBC, CBS, cable channels, the print media. If an event involves abortion or homosexuality, the news will be slanted in a pro-abortion and pro-homosexuality direction.

Gays are ALL OVER TELEVISION AND THE MOVIES and they are not shown in a negative light.

Open question to all the gays in this forum- Is being gay glamorous?

 

[shuamort]

Open question to all the gays in this forum- Is being gay glamorous?

I thought it was more fabulous than glamorous. Why just Tuesday night I sat at home and did laundry, ordered pizza and watched TV. That is... until the papparazzi came in.

 

[Stace]

I thought it was more fabulous than glamorous. Why just Tuesday night I sat at home and did laundry, ordered pizza and watched TV. That is... until the papparazzi came in.

Sounds quite similar to an evening in my house....minus the papparazzi, of course!

Who woulda thunk? :2razz:

 

[jallman]

How many? Could you site statistics that say that masses of gays have been killed and are being killed today?

Could you take a moment and re-read the sentence below, paying close attention to verb tense (here's a hint: it's one of the past tenses):

Steen said, “But they have been killed and persecuted in a major fashion.”

But instead of having read the sentence, you went on to spout this party line towing rhetoric:

This is bullcrap. Today being gay is glamorized in both movies and television…on ABC, NBC, CBS, cable channels, the print media. If an event involves abortion or homosexuality, the news will be slanted in a pro-abortion and pro-homosexuality direction.

First of all, there is no pro-abortion. That is another pro-life smoke screen. People are pro-choice...as in the choice to have or not have an abortion. If I recall correctly from another thread, you all too willingly utilized that choice when you needed it. It seems now that the choice has served its purpose for you, a crusade to stop the rights of other women is more to your liking. Pathetic.

Television and the movies are used to promote antimoral, anti-
god books or causes. Very few Christian authors or recording artists are interviewed on television. The mindless chatter can be heard on talk shows and the overwhelming number of guests are amoral in their beliefs and personal lives.

I'm sorry...I was of the impression that there were whole networks devoted to Christian programming. PAX comes to mind immediately. Christian programming comes on the networks also. Conservative evangelists have blocks of programming during the day and evening and late night hours. Why dont you watch that rather than the "mindless chatter" you seem so disgruntled with.

The majority of shows today are filled with a liberal slant….and the person holding a pro-moral position is often attacked or ridiculed. Humanists see television and radio and the movies as a vehicle-first to indoctrinate and second to make money. You could write a library full of books on how Hollywood has devastated morals in the past half century. The industry tries to defend their exaltation of infidelity, homosexuality, violence and corruption by suggesting they are just giving the public what they want. Yea right.

Blah blah blah. What pamphlet did you cut and paste that diatribe from? Its not a pro moral position that is attacked, its a pro moral oppressionist position that is attacked. And with good reason. Your moral disapproval has no jurisdiction over my personal choice. End of story.

When was the last time you saw a movie out of Hollywood that showed communism as a world aggressor and a mass murderer?

The Motorcycle Diaries, 2005

No the films today produced by the “ left” just show the seamy side of America. The America that isn’t tolerant………..the America who should be blamed for all the worlds problems.

:roll: Or they show israeli reaction to terrorism, or a gay cowboy love story, or a bunch of creatures killing of cave divers, or a hostel in europe that is a trap for traveling students, or a drama about a country music singer's life...shall I continue?

You say homosexuals are bashed and looked at today in a bad light…………you are so wrong. The humanists are in control of America. And in my opinion they are leading us towards the chaos of the French Revolution.

:applaud Oh the drama!!! You must be praised for a star performance. Perhaps you would be suited to a career selling out America's moral foundation through the liberal leftist media illuminati. :roll:

They are determined to turn America into an amoral socialist state like China or Cuba.

Umm, except that our goal in America is to liberate and educate and to maximize the civil liberties of all people within our borders and beyond.

Television is the most powerful vehicle available for controlling the minds of a generation.

You sure its not the mind control beams coming out of your microwave?

Scientists tell us that we remember 60% of what we see and only 10% of what we hear. And because television and the movies combine these primary entries to the mind, they become principal targets for a humanist takeover.

Humanist take-over? Get your tin-foil hats everyone...we are going on a Robodoon trip.

You are wrong Steen,….Television, radio, the movies are predominately controlled by secularists.

Thats because the majority of Americans are secular in their hearts. I dont care how full the church is on Sunday morning, the world currently belongs to man-kind Monday through Saturday + Superbowl Sunday.

Mediums that once featured family oriented programming and observed discretionary moral standards now makes jokes about such things and instead PROMOTES homosexuality, wife swapping and depravity.

More dramatic exaggeration. I know of no show that promotes homosexuality. You tell me what show promotes homosexuality over any other lifestyle.

A truly free medium would equally be represented by both liberal and conservative points of view. But 99% of the news we get comes with a liberal slant.

From what you are saying, you want equal media, but you just want Jesus-freak programming to be a little more equal, right? Lord save me from your followers.

Homosexuality shown in a bad light? No way. Gays being killed all over the country? That is laughable.

No, we arent being shown that way anymore thanks to a generation of great people teaching their children better. Those who would behave poorly and treat anyone with less than equality and respect are being thrust out into the light and ridiculed themselves for being bigoted and ignorant. It's great, the tables turned a long time ago...where have you been?

Gays are ALL OVER TELEVISION AND THE MOVIES and they are not shown in a negative light.

Just burns you up, doesnt it? :rofl

 

[Synch]

Where's the "let the state decide" option?

But if we had to, I'd vote no, gays produce morally bankrupt kids, who look up to their parents..

they're not going to be religious... their paren'ts friends will probably be gay, and not having either a father/mother figure will leave a child impoverished and emotionally incomplete that will leave her lonely for the rest of her life.

Because if sexuality was so easily influence, none of us would be gay!

our liberal media has glorified gays, encouraged diversity to levels beyond imagination, Will and Grace, ellen, etc. Gays are popularized in TV shows such as sex and the city, making it very easy for children to become comfortable with homosexuality as a normal thing... it's very to influence..

Umm, except that our goal in America is to liberate and educate and to maximize the civil liberties of all people within our borders and beyond.

your goal? You mean the left?

educate... huge unions protecting underrqualified teachers that undermine our public education system that produce high school graduates that don't know where Iraqr is..

civil liberties as in discriminating against certain minorities for their success while favoring another to win votes..

within our borders? Not really, beyond our borders? Yes... we should really care about the world first, then ourselves. :2razz:

 

[Naughty Nurse]

Where's the "let the state decide" option?

But if we had to, I'd vote no, gays produce morally bankrupt kids, who look up to their parents..

they're not going to be religious... their paren'ts friends will probably be gay, and not having either a father/mother figure will leave a child impoverished and emotionally incomplete that will leave her lonely for the rest of her life.

And this opinion is based on what evidence or experience?

 

[jallman]

I thought it was more fabulous than glamorous. Why just Tuesday night I sat at home and did laundry, ordered pizza and watched TV. That is... until the papparazzi came in.

Or going to work and listening to your co-workers talk about their families and kids...and then they realize that you cant have that so they pat you on the back and offer that look. Yeah, pimp my job!

Or how about those evenings just coming home with a movie from Blockbuster and falling asleep on the couch before 9PM. Livin large now!!! And dont even get me started on netflix day or smallville night. Woo-hoo!!! How does the other half live?

 

[americanwoman]

I think I may watch ' Will and Grace ' tonight......watch out world I may be gay by tomorrow! :shock:

 

[jallman]

I think I may watch ' Will and Grace ' tonight......watch out world I may be gay by tomorrow! :shock:

Whatever...Will and Grace nearly turns me straight when I have to sit through it.

 

[Synch]

And this opinion is based on what evidence or experience?

common sense?

People tend to be homogenous, being with crowds similar to them, and those who stand out want to fit in, therefore they become the same... the children adopted by the gays have no choice but have gay parents and their friends all being gay, it will be very hard for their heterosexuality to stand when it has not yet fully bloomed, and prematurely collapse under the unbearable pressure emitted by by the people around her and our media.

Whatever...Will and Grace nearly turns me straight when I have to sit through it.

so you're gay I assume?

 

[jallman]

common sense?

People tend to be homogenous, being with crowds similar to them, and those who stand out want to fit in, therefore they become the same...

I dont know what kind of weak-minded and shallow people you are accustomed to being around, but most everyone I know values their independence, individuality, and have enough self-confidence to be themselves.

 

[Naughty Nurse]

common sense?

Ah yes, secret code for "I don't have any evidence."

People tend to be homogenous, being with crowds similar to them, and those who stand out want to fit in, therefore they become the same... the children adopted by the gays have no choice but have gay parents and their friends all being gay, it will be very hard for their heterosexuality to stand when it has not yet fully bloomed, and prematurely collapse under the unbearable pressure emitted by by the people around her and our media.

I grew up with str8 parents and a str8 sister. And yet I'm gay. How can that be?

 

[Synch]

I dont know what kind of weak-minded and shallow people you are accustomed to being around, but most everyone I know values their independence, individuality, and have enough self-confidence to be themselves.

Then why do we focus on the environment of our children so much? Don't hang around the junkies, or woman having abortion because they know it will not have finanical capability to raise and will have to give it up for adoption?

If we are all so independent, individual, and self confident, why did I just saw over 10 commericials yesterday on NBC promoting independence, individuality, and self confident?

*shows grade school Asian girl*
"She wants to be blonde, let's change her mind."

Ah yes, secret code for "I don't have any evidence."

Do you have any evidence of children who were adopted by gays? Don't think so..

I grew up with str8 parents and a str8 sister. And yet I'm gay. How can that be?

because the media is extremely gay friendly, promoting homosexuality and making it look cool and suave, that gays are nicely dressed, in one episode of Will And Grace they were talking about how gays making the real estate value jump, a parent pressuring their teenager to be gay...

Ads are runned that take up hours to make sure your homosexual feelings are not crushed by peer pressure, carefully nurturing it until you are truely independent.

ARe you two really gay or just using it as a rallying point for your lack of evidence?

 

[Naughty Nurse]

because the media is extremely gay friendly, promoting homosexuality and making it look cool and suave, that gays are nicely dressed, in one episode of Will And Grace they were talking about how gays making the real estate value jump, a parent pressuring their teenager to be gay...

When I was a child homosexuality was still illegal here in the UK. Gay people were never mentioned on TV unless they were being arrested for their "crime". Is that the kind of positive image that made being gay so attractive that I couldn't resist it?

 

[Synch]

When I was a child homosexuality was still illegal here in the UK. Gay people were never mentioned on TV unless they were being arrested for their "crime". Is that the kind of positive image that made being gay so attractive that I couldn't resist it?

I'm only using my experience in my media knowledge in the US, I do not know how it is over the UK, but of course as always there are exceptions..

Of course rebellion could always be possible, many children wants to go against the mainflow of society, breaking laws, doing drugs, having illegal and unprotected sex... other choose to be gay.

Some of my friends rebelled by breaking stuff, throwing bottles through random people's windows at night on their bikes... some of them failed out of class... one chose to be gay.

I've seen in some movies woman cheating on their husbands, that the fact that it's forbidden makes it even sexier..

 

[Naughty Nurse]

I'm only using my experience in my media knowledge in the US, I do not know how it is over the UK, but of course as always there are exceptions..

Of course rebellion could always be possible, many children wants to go against the mainflow of society, breaking laws, doing drugs, having illegal and unprotected sex... other choose to be gay.

Some of my friends rebelled by breaking stuff, throwing bottles through random people's windows at night on their bikes... some of them failed out of class... one chose to be gay.

I've seen in some movies woman cheating on their husbands, that the fact that it's forbidden makes it even sexier..

Mmmm, so being gay is the equivalent of throwing bottles through windows? I'm out of here - you're too weird.

 

[Synch]

Mmmm, so being gay is the equivalent of throwing bottles through windows? I'm out of here - you're too weird.

In terms of Counterculture, yes.

 

[jallman]

Mmmm, so being gay is the equivalent of throwing bottles through windows? I'm out of here - you're too weird.

Yeah, I am with you there. I thought doughgirl was getting bizarre with her conspiracy theories but this guy is a space cadet.

 

[jamesrage]

Sorry James, my story is more recent than yours. AND from a non biased site.

What makes your source non-biased?

 

[Datamonkee]

:doh That is too much. Gays are taking over the TV and the movies. Let's look at the current number of "gay" shows.... Will and Grace... Queer Eye... The L Word (only on Showtime)... I'm not up on my gay tv.. it seems there are only 3 shows on tv anymore... OH, no .. Let's see.. all the crappy reality shows. All the comedy sitcoms on. I have over 200 channels and those are the 3 queer shows I know of. So let's look at movies. There are two main branches of gay themed movies. 1) Someone gets AIDS, then dies of AIDS. 2) someone lives a lie, finally comes out and then gets killed by Neanderthals.
You tell me which one of those YOU'D like to experience being gay?! VERY glamorous. Sign me the hell up for that AIDS thing so I can die an extremely painful and slow death. OOOoo.. or better yet .. the option to get beaten to a pulp, if I'm lucky, I'll die, if not, I'll be a vegetable... Please sign me up for that one. There are other movies out there that tell a normal story, but mostly they are about how un-accepting and intolerant society has been to homosexual people. The one or two gay movies that pop up and get acclaimed suddenly become the gay agenda of converting the population to being gay. All the heterosexual love movies that gush out of a theatre and the Gay people are invading with a movie about gay cowboys in 1963.. it wasn't even that good a movie (though Jake Gyllenhaal is sooooo friggin HOT)...
Personally, I think sexuality IS a choice. It just takes a strong will and the actual desire. I chose to be gay. I think we are all bisexual and our environment and own personality trains us to be one or the other. Love has no sex. Souls have no sex. Attraction has no sex. The first are metaphysical, the last is pheromonal. You get your pheremones crossed, and bam, you are attracted to someone others might not find socially acceptable.

 

[Deegan]

Yeah, I am with you there. I thought doughgirl was getting bizarre with her conspiracy theories but this guy is a space cadet.

I almost wish I were gay, I mean.... with all the attention you guys and gals are receiving as of late.:lol:

Just look at the attention every gay thread gets, it's just so silly when I really consider it, it's been a part of life for as long as life has existed, let's just get on with it shall we.

 

[Captain America]

It's all Richard Simmon's fault.

 

[steen]

I don't know how anyone can deny that the invironment one grows up in could affect their sexuality.......

Undeniably, eh? Then you have proof, of course, surely not wanting to expose your ignorance by making "just because I say so" postulations appear as "facts."

 

[jallman]

I almost wish I were gay, I mean.... with all the attention you guys and gals are receiving as of late.:lol:

Just look at the attention every gay thread gets, it's just so silly when I really consider it, it's been a part of life for as long as life has existed, let's just get on with it shall we.

Thats what I'm saying, bro. Man, you are always one of the most level headed people around here. I really appreciate your candor and respectfulness of everyone.

 

[Captain America]

Awwwww.... isn't that special? I think I'm going to need a tissue.:rofl