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Do you Support the Teacher's Union

Do you support YOUR Teachers Union?


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The Giant Noodle

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Im just curious if ya'll support the Teachers Union in YOUR area. :fueltofir *evil laugh*
 

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Im just curious if ya'll support the Teachers Union in YOUR area. :fueltofir *evil laugh*

I voted other, because my answer is, "No," but not because I think they ask too much.

I don't support public unions. In the private marketplace, there's a give-and-take negotiation that goes on at the bargaining table. It's tied to, surprise!!!!! profit. In the public sector, bureaucrats sit at the table and give away the store, simply telling the taxpayer, "Sorry. Ya' gotta pay more."

Public unions should be illegal, IMO. It's not a fair process to the ones paying the bill.
 

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Do I support them? Sure. Do I agree with much of what they do? No.

Unions/Big business to me is like two invading forces fighting over my neighborhood. While I am uncomfortable with them being here the thought of either side becoming victorious is worse.
 

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I think with teachers, unionization is needed but the system has been abused. It it hard to implement quality control when there is such a high level of representation. The government should show some backbone and fire the incompetent ones, and then just deal with the fallout like Washington DC did. Teachers still need to work to survive and they won't strike forever. Plus they can always be legislated back to work if it gets too out of hand.
 

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Teacher's unions run the gammot from terrible to great. It's hard to make generalizations.
 

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My area? We are doing pretty decent with our education, so I have not had a particular reason to really not like them.
 

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If I had to pick just one special interest group that is doing more than any other to make our country a worse place to live, it would be the teachers' unions. They are horrible.
 

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If I had to pick just one special interest group that is doing more than any other to make our country a worse place to live, it would be the teachers' unions. They are horrible.

most special interests only screw one set of people (the taxpayers). the teachers unions screw the entire nation.
 

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Do I support them? Sure. Do I agree with much of what they do? No.

Unions/Big business to me is like two invading forces fighting over my neighborhood. While I am uncomfortable with them being here the thought of either side becoming victorious is worse.

They're two sides of the same coin. Unions ARE a big business. And in the case of public sector unions, there isn't even another "invading force" pushing back on them. Government bureaucrats, unlike for-profit businesses, don't give a damn if the union demands too much.
 

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Unions use to be a good thing. They got much of the laws that are in place today that are good, like child labor laws. But now adays they are nothing more than bullies that is one of the causes for so many manufacturing jobs leaving the USA. So no, I don't support em.
 

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No, but it's not specific to teachers. I don't really agree with the idea of unions much at all. I don't think they're necessary in today's world.
 

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Im just curious if ya'll support the Teachers Union in YOUR area. :fueltofir *evil laugh*

I support the right of teachers and others to unionize. I think to lay the blame of our school system at their feet is being highly disengenuous, though. What about all these school boards who have officials elected who don't even have children in the school system, or no education experience, or no administrative experience? Teachers have rights too, and they should have their rights respected, just like the rights of everyone should be respected. And I know they do some crappy things. But there's a lot of blame to go around, and reforms may be better than abolishment.
 

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I think everyone should have the right to unionize from CEOs to Janitors, except for the military.
 

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I think everyone should have the right to unionize from CEOs to Janitors, except for the military.

Or, if not make a union, then form a guild that has minimum wage standards and can provide benefits such as health insurance.
 

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Or, if not make a union, then form a guild that has minimum wage standards and can provide benefits such as health insurance.

Whatever they want to do is fine by me, as long as they don't make competition unfair.
 

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as with most unions, they had good intentions at one time.. but now it seems they'll financially break a community and care less about it..
our super gets pait over 100K and the school is on the edge of being a class A.. the township is less than 3000 people..

the average starting is around 36K for 166days or so of work, in a community who average yearly income per two parent income is about 36K

i very much believe this is status-quo in most schools and scales up as expected to larger schools.
 
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Government employees shouldn't have a union.
 

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Or every industry should be unionized. Either way.

Yes, because we all know that private sector employees are equal to government employees. :roll: Government employees are supposed to be servants of the people, but a union allows them to hold a gun to the people's head if they don't like the wages and benefits provided to them from the taxpayers.
 

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They're two sides of the same coin. Unions ARE a big business. And in the case of public sector unions, there isn't even another "invading force" pushing back on them. Government bureaucrats, unlike for-profit businesses, don't give a damn if the union demands too much.

Well, I think this just about ends the thread.
 
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