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Do You Support Laws Mandating Condoms in Porn?

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I'm torn.

On the one hand I think that's the risk you take as an porn actor and its your choice to engage.

On the other, even though porn in California for example has a decently robust screening system it isn't perfect and outbreaks do happen and so this would prevent more of those.

But for me, I can't watch commercial porn anyway, it just doesn't appeal to me.

Real amateur all the way, real people doing real things :lol:
 

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I'm torn.

On the one hand I think that's the risk you take as an porn actor and its your choice to engage.

On the other, even though porn in California for example has a decently robust screening system it isn't perfect and outbreaks do happen and so this would prevent more of those.

But for me, I can't watch commercial porn anyway, it just doesn't appeal to me.

Real amateur all the way, real people doing real things :lol:

Porn as an industry is dying since there are so many people who will make content for nearly no compensation. As soon as the internet filters are good enough (thanks CHINA!) I would expect the government to make it illegal to transmit condomless porn within their realm, seems like eventually amateur porn will be made to follow the same rules.
 

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... I would expect the government to make it illegal to transmit condomless porn within their realm, seems like eventually amateur porn will be made to follow the same rules.
Interesting prediction and probably right as well. Years from now.
 

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I don't watch porn. When I was younger, friends would watch or ask me to watch and I declined but yes..I have seen it way back when. I found it disgusting then and I find it disgusting now.

With that said..yes. Condoms should be used and a law passed that if one is to "entertain" others via movies, etc for the PUBLIC to view, one must be worn. It is sending a bad message to younger folks who still aren't cooked enough yet in lifes lessons, plus it subjects us ALL to more filthy diseases.
 

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Porn as an industry is dying since there are so many people who will make content for nearly no compensation. As soon as the internet filters are good enough (thanks CHINA!) I would expect the government to make it illegal to transmit condomless porn within their realm, seems like eventually amateur porn will be made to follow the same rules.
Interesting prediction and probably right as well. Years from now.

Oh please! Spare us the 1984 BS. Private individuals will not be required to wear condoms when filming themselves having sex. This is not about dictating porn content, it's about safety regulations within an industry.

Is there any sky that you will not predict is falling?
 

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No. The people involved are free to decline if they don't like the terms on contract.
 

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Oh please! Spare us the 1984 BS. Private individuals will not be required to wear condoms when filming themselves having sex. This is not about dictating porn content, it's about safety regulations within an industry.

Is there any sky that you will not predict is falling?

Actually requiring condoms does dictate how the content will be done and how the individuals involved will have sex. As for your safety regulations argument, please, the people involved are responsible for their own life decisions and can freely decline a job offer if they want a condom to be worn.
 

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Why/Why Not?

No, because like most Americans (I think) I dont like to see condoms in my porn, and the government has no good cause to demand that I do. THis is government overreach, the dreaded Nanny State.

California will vote in 2016 on condoms for porn actors - LA Times

The real issue is that it's treating the people involved like idiots that can't even make their own decisions towards their own person. The government should stop treating people like children.

I would also love to know who's rights exactly are being violated by people deciding to not wear a condom. Oh right, no one's rights are being violated. Thought so.
 
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Actually requiring condoms does dictate how the content will be done and how the individuals involved will have sex. As for your safety regulations argument, please, the people involved are responsible for their own life decisions and can freely decline a job offer if they want a condom to be worn.

It's not about regulating content, it's about safety. Every industry has safety regulations. Do we say, "hell, factory workers can work in a fire trap because the people involved are responsible for their own life decisions"?

I'm not saying I support the regulation, I'm just saying let's not jump off the deep end and pretend this is something other than safety regulations.

Proposing that amateur porn would be similarly regulated is flat out idiocy and totally misses the point of the regulations. What kind of sick thinking is it to believe this is about regulating the content of porn, even including amateurs? Seriously, that's ****ed in the head.
 

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It's not about regulating content, it's about safety. Every industry has safety regulations. Do we say, "hell, factory workers can work in a fire trap because the people involved are responsible for their own life decisions"?

Why can't the actors make their own decisions? Is their any reason they are incapable of making a decision on if they want a condom to be worn or not? If they are capable of making their own decisions then why not allow them to do so?

Telling people they can't freely accept risks is treating them like children that are incapable of making decisions on their own. I do not want to live in a society where the government thinks they can make my personal decisions for me.
 

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Why can't the actors make their own decisions? Is their any reason they are incapable of making a decision on if they want a condom to be worn or not? If they are capable of making their own decisions then why not allow them to do so?

Telling people they can't freely accept risks is treating them like children that are incapable of making decisions on their own. I do not want to live in a society where the government thinks they can make my personal decisions for me.

Why can't a factory worker work in a fire trap? Is there any reason they are incapable of making a decision on if they want to work in a fire trap or not? If they are capable of making their own decisions then why not let them work in a fire trap?

Safety regulations exist in every industry.

Again, I'm not saying I support the regulation. I'm saying let's not act ****ing insane and pretend this is about control of content and thus including amateur porn, because that's sick in the head.
 

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Why can't a factory worker work in a fire trap? Is there any reason they are incapable of making a decision on if they want to work in a fire trap or not? If they are capable of making their own decisions then why not let them work in a fire trap?

Why is that your example? Is there any reason you think my argument would change? Is the worker not free to leave at any time?

Again, I'm not saying I support the regulation. I'm saying let's not act ****ing insane and pretend this is about control of content and thus including amateur porn because that's sick in the head.

The government can claim whatever it pleases, but the regulation DOES control porn content.
 

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Believing this is about content control, and not safety, is so sick. I mean, really, that belief is flat-out brain damaged.

Let me guess, it's all about the industry turning anti-male?

Seriously, thinking this is about content and thus amateur porn would be similarly regulated is the most twisted brain rot I've seen on this site today.
 

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Believing this is about content control, and not safety, is so sick. I mean, really, that belief is flat-out brain damaged.

Let me guess, it's all about the industry turning anti-male?

Seriously, thinking this is about content and thus amateur porn would be similarly regulated is the most twisted brain rot I've seen on this site today.

Is the government looking to put in place their solution to a problem? Yes or no? Is the government going to respect the decisions of the people in the industry on the matter? Yes or no?
 

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Is the government looking to put in place their solution to a problem? Yes or no? Is the government going to respect the decisions of the people in the industry on the matter? Yes or no?


Being against all industry safety regulations because "people can choose" is a close second for most moronic position of the day. This thread wins gold and silver, gratz.
 

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Being against all industry safety regulations because "people can choose" is a close second for most moronic position of the day. This thread wins gold and silver, gratz.

If people can leave an industry when they find themselves in disagreement with the conditions exactly how is my position moronic? Why is the freedom to choose somehow of so little importance to you? Why do you think the government knows better than the people actually doing the work?
 

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If people can leave an industry when they find themselves in disagreement with the conditions exactly how is my condition moronic? Are they not free to decide what conditions they will accept?

Rarely have I witnessed such pathetic idiocy. I sincerely hope you're joking.

I refuse to accept your "condition". Good day.
 

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Rarely have I witnessed such pathetic idiocy. I sincerely hope you're joking.

Good day.

If I'm joking I try to be funny, so no, I'm not joking. If we are going to uphold liberty then we have to uphold the right to choose to make poor decisions. If someone wants to work in porn and not wear condoms that is a decision they are making towards their own person and their own safety. People should be free to accept risks in their life and the government should not assume they know better than them.
 

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Oh please! Spare us the 1984 BS. Private individuals will not be required to wear condoms when filming themselves having sex. This is not about dictating porn content, it's about safety regulations within an industry.

Is there any sky that you will not predict is falling?
iLOL
Your overreaction is priceless.
It is not that it will be required for private individuals to have condoms during sex, it was that it would be required for a video of it to be transmitted.
Had you paid attention to what was actually said instead of what you thought was said, you may have picked up on the difference.


More and more control/regulation is the way a government is moves and it always has been the direction it has moved.

This prediction of his is not out of the realm of possibility as apparently you think it is.
 

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It's not about regulating content, it's about safety. Every industry has safety regulations. Do we say, "hell, factory workers can work in a fire trap because the people involved are responsible for their own life decisions"?

I'm not saying I support the regulation, I'm just saying let's not jump off the deep end and pretend this is something other than safety regulations.

Proposing that amateur porn would be similarly regulated is flat out idiocy and totally misses the point of the regulations. What kind of sick thinking is it to believe this is about regulating the content of porn, even including amateurs? Seriously, that's ****ed in the head.

At the entrance to the Aids Healthcare Foundation, a staffer wears a red T-shirt bearing the slogan “Condoms are Cool”. Down the hallway is the office of Michael Weinstein, the forthright head of the billion-dollar not-for-profit organization who is the first to volunteer that he is regarded as a “condom Nazi”.

“What’s the big whoop about condoms?” he said, sitting amid the expansive, 21st-floor views of Los Angeles and photographs showing him with notables such as Whoopi Goldberg and Alicia Keys. “I just don’t get why it’s such a sacrifice.”
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California officials say that condoms already are required under regulations aimed at protecting workers from bloodborne pathogens. The porn industry is trying to change that, arguing that the rules are outdated. Weinstein’s new measure has sharper teeth, because it could allow any California resident to sue producers, distributors and talent agents. He says his goals are to stamp out STDs among performers and for porn to set a good example for viewers.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...michael-weinstein-condoms-porn-california-law

Also this:

A Sanders supporter, Weinstein has long leaned hard to the left. As a young man, he was drawn to anti-war and civil rights movements, and was a leader of the Lavender and Red Union, a group founded around 1974 that operated on the premise that “gay liberation is impossible without socialist revolution”.

So here we see that the guy driving the CALI bus is a hard core lefty and is also a "ALL PRAISE THE CONDOM" freak, which according to me is expected. There is no HIV problem in porn, so if that were the reason this is a "solution" in search of a problem. No, what this is is an attempt to get condom usage considered the norm by the little people, and our refusal to use them considered recklessness, which ideally comes with a huge penalty to discourage the practice (as the writing of the proposed law shows clearly) .


EDIT: there have been ZERO known HIV transmissions in CALI PORN for well over a decade, porn talent who have gotten it have done so on their personal time.
 
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Adults performing in an adult industry. They should be allowed to decide for themselves without government busy bodies dictating to them.
 

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Adults performing in an adult industry. They should be allowed to decide for themselves without government busy bodies dictating to them.

Exactly. They're apparently capable of making their own decisions as adults, so the government needs to allow them to do that.
 

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I wonder how many times this has happened in CA now that the porn industry has been driven off the grid, now that they dont do things like get permits:

A 18 YO wants to do porn, maybe she thinks she will like it maybe she is desperate for money who knows. So she gets directed to a cell phone number of a guy who makes stuff only they got to keep it on the down low because of these idiot laws YA know. She shows up to a certain house as directed and on-time. There are a bunch of rough looking guys there, along with the guy she talked on the phone. So for the first 30 minutes or so she thinks, and is allowed to think, that she is trying to get into porn. Maybe there are cameras and the place looks legit. Maybe she is allowed to leave thinking that this is what happened, but in truth she was there to be used by men.....the porn thing was nothing more than rape bait. Our victim had no way to know what she was walking into like she once had, when porn was a legit business.

I wonder.
 
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I'm also torn. Whether or not people want to admit it, porn has a huge psychological influence on people's sexual practices, especially young people who are just learning. In the gay community for example, HIV rates are climbing again because PREP medications and barebacking porn have given them them the a-ok to go back to a lifestyle that, for men in the late 80's and early 90's would've been unthinkable. It's like this generation has completely forgotten the HIV epidemic that killed so many.

There's drug resistant syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia now. Meaning, if you catch these strains, there's no cure.

So... commercial porn does have a certain responsibility, not just a moral one, but a safety one. I realize that it's showcasing a fantasy but not everyone treats it that way, especially people who are addicted to porn.

And let's not even get into the misogyny that's still rampant in the porn industry.

I don't think the law should have to mandate condom use. I think studios should have common sense, and be petitioned by viewers to be better. But there is such little viewer responsibility in that industry. People are just passive consumers, there's not much activism.
 
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