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Do You Sense It?

After George Floyd, it seemed like things were going to change. Then things returned to normal. More unarmed Black guys were shot. Trump got 70M votes. White supremacists attacked the Capitol.

I think the hateful right are having a bad few weeks but it will pass and they'll be back to their old ways.
They won't give up. Dems and the rest of us better expect that.
 
After George Floyd, it seemed like things were going to change. Then things returned to normal. More unarmed Black guys were shot. Trump got 70M votes. White supremacists attacked the Capitol.

I think the hateful right are having a bad few weeks but it will pass and they'll be back to their old ways.
I don't think so.

The images of white thugs beating a Capitol Police officer with a US flag pole is not going to be erased from our collective memories much like the video of Derek Chauvin slowly choking the life out of George Floyd.
Trumps swan song has been to help usher stupid, bigoted, racist white men to the historical garbage pile. Of course they are not going to simply disappear but their "power" in american politics reached it's zenith during Trump's horrific 4 year siege on the White House and will never be like this again. (Thank god.)

Edit: plenty of stupid, undereducated white women supported Trump also. Hopefully they go the way of the Dodo bird as well.
 
I don't think so.

The images of white thugs beating a Capitol Police officer with a US flag pole is not going to be erased from our collective memories much like the video of Derek Chauvin slowly choking the life out of George Floyd.
Trumps swan song has been to help usher stupid, bigoted, racist white men to the historical garbage pile. Of course they are not going to simply disappear but their "power" in american politics reached it's zenith during Trump's horrific 4 year siege on the White House and will never be like this again. (Thank god.)
That to me is just further evidence of where we are as country because George Floyd and the countless before and after him should of been enough. Tamir Rice should of been enough. It took other white people realizing that when white wingers are walking through the capital building chanting this belongs to us, this is our house that they weren't just talking to black and brown people they were talking to them too. And if any thing does change its because white people are feeling for a tiny moment what black people feel all the time.
 
That to me is just further evidence of where we are as country because George Floyd and the countless before and after him should of been enough. Tamir Rice should of been enough. It took other white people realizing that when white wingers are walking through the capital building chanting this belongs to us, this is our house that they weren't just talking to black and brown people they were talking to them too. And if any thing does change its because white people are feeling for a tiny moment what black people feel all the time.
I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion, but I definitely agree with the premise. One thing Wednesday made clear for all to see (not that all will admit it tho) is that there are two sets of rules. One for black and one for white. No one can say with a straight face that if that mob was black there would not be over a 100 of them dead. No selfies either.
 
Skit: Trump running around with his hair on fire. Biden dumps a bucket of water on his head. Trump's hair is gone.
 
I don't necessarily agree with the conclusion, but I definitely agree with the premise. One thing Wednesday made clear for all to see (not that all will admit it tho) is that there are two sets of rules. One for black and one for white. No one can say with a straight face that if that mob was black there would not be over a 100 of them dead. No selfies either.
Biden said as much when he spoke after the riots and I agree, no one could plausibly argue the outcome would have been different if the protest was reversed.
And while I doubt the average clueless, "I'm really angry but dont know why" Trumper has the engineering skill to build a real bomb, but could you imagine if they had? And done more damage and killed more people? The conversation would be "why did you not shoot them when they were storming the door?" Why did you not shoot all of them?
 
So do I.

Good Ole' Joe is a sincere, compassionate man.
A complete contrast from the orange piece of shit. The contrast could not be greater unless Ole' Joe were painted blue as Donny is orange.

As soon as he finishes leading the lynching, he'll take up the causes of truth, justice and the American way.

Are you seriously this deluded?
 
You have some odd ideas about what goes into "unity".

For one thing, I think fairness is a big part of unity.

What do you feel goes into unity?
 
Recent polls of Republicans and 'conservatives' show a large percent of those polled are still loyalists of President of the United States of America Donald Trump. Many of them believe that the 2020 election was stolen by the Democrats.

We have seen this sort of mental aberration before, most notably in those who have fallen under the spell and domination of charismatic religious cult leaders. Parents who have gone through the effort of rescuing and de-programming their children who were caught up in such cults can give evidence of how difficult the process is.

I've no idea as to how we, as a nation, can accomplish a similar deprogramming for massive numbers of people within our existing laws. Until something changes, they remain a risk to our democracy* and our American way of life. The damage done by one unprincipled man and his enablers to this country is great.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the prophylactic Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.

Reminder. I try to respond to all who quote my posts. If you do not get a response from me, it may be that you've made it onto my 'Ignore' list.

* Yes, Gotcha! Gang. I know the United States of America is a republic.
 
For one thing, I think fairness is a big part of unity.

What do you feel goes into unity?


Having at least a couple of common causes.
 
Recent polls of Republicans and 'conservatives' show a large percent of those polled are still loyalists of President of the United States of America Donald Trump. Many of them believe that the 2020 election was stolen by the Democrats.

We have seen this sort of mental aberration before, most notably in those who have fallen under the spell and domination of charismatic religious cult leaders. Parents who have gone through the effort of rescuing and de-programming their children who were caught up in such cults can give evidence of how difficult the process is.

I've no idea as to how we, as a nation, can accomplish a similar deprogramming for massive numbers of people within our existing laws. Until something changes, they remain a risk to our democracy* and our American way of life. The damage done by one unprincipled man and his enablers to this country is great.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. Remember the prophylactic Big 3: masks, hand washing and physical distancing.

Reminder. I try to respond to all who quote my posts. If you do not get a response from me, it may be that you've made it onto my 'Ignore' list.

* Yes, Gotcha! Gang. I know the United States of America is a republic.

I suppose we can all rest easy now that the guy the Democrat-Socialists have been lying about for years is exiled from our society. Ceremonial execution after prolonged torture to follow.

Biden, The Great and Powerful, having gotten more votes than any other candidate for anything in the history of the Republic, will be welcomed by a gratefully united nation filled with love and hope after his "Miracle of the Ballots".

He is obviously universally loved by all Americans and embraced and cherished with grateful love by the entire population of the world which will enter a new era, known for 1000 years, as Pax Cornpopana.

I watched a few stories on NBC this morning. The new President seems likely to deliver his Inaugural Address while actually walking on the water of a hastily constructed pool on the Inauguration stage.

Following that, there will be a short ceremony during which he will cure the entire population of the world eliminating the Covid Virus by the sheer force of his unblemished, wise goodness.

Finally, the details and scheduling of the purge to redistribute the wealth and the property of the nonbelievers to the enlightened will be published for ease of planning and relocation to education camps.

We're lucky to be living in these wonderful times.
 
For one thing, I think fairness is a big part of unity.

What do you feel goes into unity?

Accepting a shared reality. Joe Biden won a free and fair election. Donald Trump attempted to undermine that.
 
99% of everything Trump was not.

So "unity" is simply the defeat, silencing and utter destruction of anything and anyone that you find to be unlike you?
 
I suppose we can all rest easy now that the guy the Democrat-Socialists have been lying about for years is exiled from our society. Ceremonial execution after prolonged torture to follow.

Biden, The Great and Powerful, having gotten more votes than any other candidate for anything in the history of the Republic, will be welcomed by a gratefully united nation filled with love and hope after his "Miracle of the Ballots".

He is obviously universally loved by all Americans and embraced and cherished with grateful love by the entire population of the world which will enter a new era, known for 1000 years, as Pax Cornpopana.

I watched a few stories on NBC this morning. The new President seems likely to deliver his Inaugural Address while actually walking on the water of a hastily constructed pool on the Inauguration stage.

Following that, there will be a short ceremony during which he will cure the entire population of the world eliminating the Covid Virus by the sheer force of his unblemished, wise goodness.

Finally, the details and scheduling of the purge to redistribute the wealth and the property of the nonbelievers to the enlightened will be published for ease of planning and relocation to education camps.

We're lucky to be living in these wonderful times.

After the last 4 years, I can understand why your expectations are so high but I think you’re setting yourself up here. :(
 
I suppose we can all rest easy now that the guy the Democrat-Socialists have been lying about for years is exiled from our society. Ceremonial execution after prolonged torture to follow.

Biden, The Great and Powerful, having gotten more votes than any other candidate for anything in the history of the Republic, will be welcomed by a gratefully united nation filled with love and hope after his "Miracle of the Ballots".

He is obviously universally loved by all Americans and embraced and cherished with grateful love by the entire population of the world which will enter a new era, known for 1000 years, as Pax Cornpopana.

I watched a few stories on NBC this morning. The new President seems likely to deliver his Inaugural Address while actually walking on the water of a hastily constructed pool on the Inauguration stage.

Following that, there will be a short ceremony during which he will cure the entire population of the world eliminating the Covid Virus by the sheer force of his unblemished, wise goodness.

Finally, the details and scheduling of the purge to redistribute the wealth and the property of the nonbelievers to the enlightened will be published for ease of planning and relocation to education camps.

We're lucky to be living in these wonderful times.
The guy riled up the dumbest people in the country in a failed effort to steal an election. Trump earned everything he gets this time.
 
It began when the honest and decent people elected Joe Biden as president and the right wing has had the "hair on fire" syndrome ever since. The Capitol riot was the icing on the cake which now has the hionest and decent people of the nation totally outraged including, finally, even some Republicans.

A tiny tiny snippet of Republicans.
The bulk of them are not only still true believers, they're DOUBLING DOWN.
FFS talk about a term I never want to hear again.

MAGA is a colony of chimps, each with a loaded AK-47 and someone keeps tossing M-80's over the fence.
 
The guy riled up the dumbest people in the country in a failed effort to steal an election. Trump earned everything he gets this time.

Yabbut (Yeah but) he is not going to be paying the bulk of the fare, we are.
And I never signed up for any of this shit.
Most of us didn't.

Most of us also never signed up for 85% of the crap Trumpers accuse us of, day in and day out, all day long, lather, rinse, repeat.

Bathrooms: Reasonable and rational people can tell the difference between a pedo and someone who genuinely has begun a transition and most rational people understand that they need to take a whizz like everyone else. We don't have to like their appearance, we just have to leave them alone.

Antifa: Most of us are against fascism, a lot of us are sick of having fascism shoved down our throat, and yet most of us denounce acts of protest and civil disobedience going over the top and devolving into vandalism and violence.

To make a long story short:
Pick any issue and most people are in a rational and reasonable position on it, but the insurrectionist Right has decided it believes alternate facts, alternate history, stolen elections, owning the libs, the deep state, and pedos.
And it has decided it's willing to go to war on democracy itself.

Most of them can't even back up their rhetoric, but that doesn't matter when it's just an excuse to visit bloodshed on people they were taught to hate. Such eager willing students they were.
Well, right back at ya homies, the response is forthcoming.
You started this war, we are going to finish it.
And you will be PUNISHED and taught a lesson you will never forget.
You either learn to be decent people again or you will pay the price, I guarantee you eighty million Americans are not about to allow you to get away with your plan.

Your only option is to straighten up and fly right, or suffer the consequences and be held fully accountable.
You will lose your stupid little war and you will lose it in pain and agony the likes of which will shake you to your foundations and shatter your miserable dead end culty lives.

You have awakened everybody now, and I am not talking about the so called "woke".
I am talking about the adults in the room.
Consider us the classical "sleeping giant".
You don't know who we all are because we don't run around talking and acting like homicidal maniacs and we don't wear our beliefs on a hat or on our sleeves, or on bumper stickers.
But we know who you are. You're pretty obvious.
Forget that so called "deep state", you have a lot to worry about from eighty million Americans who love their democracy more than they love you by a longshot, although the REAL deep state is indeed paying close attention to you now.
It was an easy job because all of you had your tattoos out, none of you wore masks, some of you wore your work ID and an awful lot of you telegraphed your intentions for well over a year or two.

And some of you even serve in Congress.
We'll deal with them, too.
I promise you.
 
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I suppose we can all rest easy now that the guy the Democrat-Socialists have been lying about for years is exiled from our society. Ceremonial execution after prolonged torture to follow.

Biden, The Great and Powerful, having gotten more votes than any other candidate for anything in the history of the Republic, will be welcomed by a gratefully united nation filled with love and hope after his "Miracle of the Ballots".

He is obviously universally loved by all Americans and embraced and cherished with grateful love by the entire population of the world which will enter a new era, known for 1000 years, as Pax Cornpopana. [sic]

I watched a few stories on NBC this morning. The new President seems likely to deliver his Inaugural Address while actually walking on the water of a hastily constructed pool on the Inauguration stage.

Following that, there will be a short ceremony during which he will cure the entire population of the world eliminating the Covid Virus [sic] by the sheer force of his unblemished, wise goodness.

Finally, the details and scheduling of the purge to redistribute the wealth and the property of the nonbelievers to the enlightened will be published for ease of planning and relocation to education camps.

We're lucky to be living in these wonderful times.

Hi!

I accept the tongue-in-cheek style of your response to my post. It does, though, fail to address the problem this un-fortuned nation has going forward. The President of the United States of America Donald Trump loyalists will still be with us after Inauguration Day. The flaw in their make-up -- a willingness to accept an autocratic leader and follow him to the point of creating a 1/6/2021 uprising -- will remain. Another demagogue, or perhaps President trump, will still command their attention and thoughtless subservience.

2021 is not going to be a, well, you know, box o' Godiva's.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
 
After George Floyd, it seemed like things were going to change. Then things returned to normal. More unarmed Black guys were shot. Trump got 70M votes. White supremacists attacked the Capitol.

I think the hateful right are having a bad few weeks but it will pass and they'll be back to their old ways.
I'm afraid I agree. At first, I was hopeful but, the further we get away from the assault on OUR Capitol the more excuses and rationalizations come on line. The most disheartening is that the MAGA insurrection on 1-6 was the same as "what the leftists did last year". NO! No, it was not! Frist it needs to be pointed out that, according to the FBI and local law enforcement, ALMOST ALL the violence was committed by opportunistic anarchist from across the political spectrum. AND none of it was a threat to OUR National Government and it's Constitution as the siege on OUR Capitol definitely was.

When I ask my conservative friends, "do you think the election was stolen", they say no, but before I can breathe a sigh of relief they add a qualifier that really means ... "yes it was stolen".

We, organizations and the news media, did a great job of counting Trump's lies but a lousy job of analyzing how they were changing and damaging society and the reality we all live. And acted as if those lies were harmless, they were NOT. And we found out how "NOT" harmless they were on Jan, 6 2021. That day was the culmination of a rolling coup attempt that began months before the election. First it started with lies about the efficacy and integrity of mail in voting. Then came the outright attempts to hamstring mail in voting by limiting drop boxes, making it harder not easier to vote by mail, limiting when mail in ballots could be counted and, ultimately, screwing with OUR Post Office to delay and make questionable the validity and timeliness of mail in ballots.

Then AFTER the election the immediate and unrelenting attacks on the validity of the election and claims of voter fraud the climaxed with the attack on our capital with the goal of affecting a coup by overturning a free and fair election by any means including violence, even murder. The underpinning sentiment and philosophy (if you want to dignify it as philosophy) of "Trumpism" isn't going away. There's no easy way to talk his supporters off the ledge of his lies and back down to reality because the reality we all live now is one that's been manufacture by Benedict Donald’s unrelenting lies.
 
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Hi!
I accept the tongue-in-cheek style of your response to my post. It does, though, fail to address the problem this un-fortuned nation has going forward. The President of the United States of America Donald Trump loyalists will still be with us after Inauguration Day. The flaw in their make-up -- a willingness to accept an autocratic leader and follow him to the point of creating a 1/6/2021 uprising -- will remain. Another demagogue, or perhaps President trump, will still command their attention and thoughtless subservience.
2021 is not going to be a, well, you know, box o' Godiva's.
Regards, stay safe 'n well.
Another demagogue, or perhaps President trump,
will still command their attention and thoughtless subservience.

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Well, we saw Ted Cruz try to channel it a few weeks ago. He will not be the last.

Hi!

A number of Republicans have indicated a willingness to belly up to that particular bar. Problem # 1, however, is to reduce the importance of President of the United States of America Donald Trump in the 2024 elections. [Ed.: Many Republican federal legislators who will be running in 2022 would like to reduce his influence by then.] If enough of the, perhaps 17 of the Republican US Senators, are willing to move out from under President Trump's shadow [Ed.: And vengeful nature,] and become full adults, it may be accomplished within this month.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.
 
Accepting a shared reality. Joe Biden won a free and fair election. Donald Trump attempted to undermine that.

Were you equally upset by the efforts of the Democrat-Socialists to undermine the election victory of Donald J. Trump?

Just performing a little reality check on the "shared reality" you promote.
 
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