I have heard St. Thomas Aquinas called many things. Irrational isn't one of them.:roll:
Accomodationists. Yes, we know. Stand up for reality or be buried under the inevitable flood of irrationality.
You should look at his Quinque Viae, the arguments are simply laughable.
Personally, I'm agnostic. Strident atheists irritate me as much as fanatic believers.:catapult:
Hardly laughable, and very rational.
The Quinque viæ, Five Ways, or Five Proofs are Five arguments regarding the existence of God summarized by the 13th century Roman Catholic philosopher and theologian St. Thomas Aquinas in his book, Summa Theologica. They are not necessarily meant to be self-sufficient “proofs” of God’s existence; as worded, they propose only to explain what it is “all men mean” when they speak of “God”. Many scholars point out that St. Thomas’s actual arguments regarding the existence and nature of God are to be found liberally scattered throughout his major treatises, and that the five ways are little more than an introductory sketch of how the word “God” can be defined without reference to special revelation (i.e., religious experience).
The five ways are; the argument of the unmoved mover, the argument of the first cause, the argument from contingency, the argument from degree and the teleological argument. The first way is greatly expanded in the Summa Contra Gentiles.[1] Aquinas left out from his list several arguments that were already in existence at the time, such as the ontological argument of Saint Anselm, because he did not believe that they worked. In the 20th century, the Roman Catholic priest and philosopher Frederick Copleston, devoted much of his works to fully explaining and expanding on Aquinas’ five ways.
The arguments are designed to prove the existence of a monotheistic God, namely the Abrahamic God (though they could also support notions of God in other faiths that believe in a monotheistic God such as Sikhism, Vedantic and Bhaktic Hinduism), but as a set they do not work when used to provide evidence for the existence of polytheistic,[citation needed] pantheistic, panentheistic or pandeistic deities.
And half-ass "live and let live" accomodationists piss me off more than any of them.
Yes, I understand what they are, that's why I mentioned it. They're laughably and easily refutable, yet brainless Catholics to this day think they're valid.
Unfortunately, the Catholic Church elected another idiot who is going to keep pushing Catholic hate. Good choice, morons.
Unfortunately, the Catholic Church elected another idiot who is going to keep pushing Catholic hate. Good choice, morons.
Well then, go through your life pissed off. We "live and let live" types don't care, although we occasionally enjoy spinning you up to max rpm's. You're amusing that way.:laughat:
They elected a Conservative......God Bless him.
No, I'm really not. Do they believe in something for which they have no objective evidence?
You cannot find a single quote from any of those people who said that they are killing anyone because their atheism commands them to do so.
religion was responsible for things like the Dark Ages
But as soon as you're using cult-like behavior, you're no longer being rational and irrationality is at the core of many of man's problems.
Humanity, unlike all the other animals on the planet, has the ability to override their impulses
We hate no one......We hate sins that people commit.....We love the sinner.
We hate no one......We hate sins that people commit.....We love the sinner.
It's not going through life pissed, it's going through life actually giving a damn about what goes on in the world around you. I'm glad you think being a troll is funny. Just says something about your character.
Do you? Do I? I presume you do believe that the reality is real (and not some kind of "Matrix"-style dirty trick). And that your mind is minimally adequate as a tool for naviagting this reality. So do I. Why, exactly, do we believe that? Do we have any objective evidence?
Not their "atheism", but their irrational beliefs in a whole bunch of crap that had nothing to do with religion. As Chesterton said, "Take away the faith in God, and people will not believe in nothing, they will believe in anything".
I am hard-pressed to agree that Copernicus, or Newton, or Ivan Pavlov ( all deeply religious people) were "irrational".
Yes, of course. But ask yourself, impassionately (your impulses successfully overriden): Should I treat the (apparently quite normal and well-meaning) other person's religion as a curious phenomenon worth studying and understanding, or should I scream, apriori, "barabaric superstition!" and shut my own enlightened mind tight as a clam?!
Troll? I think not. I was drawn to this thread by a display of silly intolerance. I am, as you might say, doing what I can to make the world around me a better place.eace
As am I, I'm pointing out the absurdities of religion, the elimination of which will, while not making the world a paradise, certainly will do something to improve the situation.
After they get rid of guns there will be nothing anyone can do to stop the church from encroaching on the constitution.As am I, I'm pointing out the absurdities of religion, the elimination of which will, while not making the world a paradise, certainly will do something to improve the situation.
As am I, I'm pointing out the absurdities of religion, the elimination of which will, while not making the world a paradise, certainly will do something to improve the situation.
I don't think adding to the sum total of hate helps anything.
After they get rid of guns there will be nothing anyone can do to stop the church from encroaching on the constitution.
Churches do so much good in this and other countries. It's beyond my understanding why some despise those actions so much. Good afternoon 2m...
More than literally anything else in the human experience, that's what religion is... the belief that your's is right and that all the others are wrong. Otherwaise, what's the point?The only true religion is paganism. When they elect a pagan pope I will go to church.
I don't think adding to the sum total of hate helps anything.
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