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Do you get nervous when you notice people in Muslim garb on your airplane?

Does it make you nervous?


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Not nearly that paranoid.

The guy in the grateful dead T-Shirt and the "**** you" hat concerns me more.
 

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Holy crap! Juan Williams is someone of a unusually large amount of fair mindedness and integrity. This is very surprising.

And no, such outfits don't bother me. I have grown up around Muslims since I was about 8. I think they look stupid though.
 

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I don't get nervous about their type of dress - no. I DO get nervous if you add in that they are nervous, or overly sweaty, or acting erratically but then again, that makes me nervous no matter who it is or how they're dressed.
 

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I don't get nervous about their type of dress - no. I DO get nervous if you add in that they are nervous, or overly sweaty, or acting erratically but then again, that makes me nervous no matter who it is or how they're dressed.

Does that happen to you alot or something?
 

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Maybe, maybe not.
I was supposedly abused when young, so my responses are "colored", even biased.
More-so I am NOT sure at all as the appearance of a terrorist ..
Mr Williams was being honest and open, maybe his mistake.
Nor do I believe he was fired for this reason (being human)....
I do know that the right-wing nut cases twist and spin the news - this I find to be despicable.
 

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I don't get nervous about their type of dress - no. I DO get nervous if you add in that they are nervous, or overly sweaty, or acting erratically but then again, that makes me nervous no matter who it is or how they're dressed.

Good response..
And this is true for most of us..
But fools can misinterpret this, non-fools can spin this into their own agenda.
 

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Good response..
And this is true for most of us..
But fools can misinterpret this, non-fools can spin this into their own agenda.

Yeah I know, as in why fear Muslims that fear flying. I'm gonna win the lottery before I meet a terrorist on a plane.
 

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No because the savage terrorists who blow up our planes are the ones dressed in affliction t-shirts and drinking beer.

This. A terrorist isn't going to draw attention to themselves by wearing traditional muslim clothing. They are going to do everything they can to look as normal as possible.
 

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This. A terrorist isn't going to draw attention to themselves by wearing traditional muslim clothing. They are going to do everything they can to look as normal as possible.


That's certainly True - however NPR is surely defining itself thru this action and just for similair symbolic reasons possibly any Federal funding should be eliminated.
 

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I don't get nervous when I see people in Islamic clothing in my plane. I grew up with Muslims and I don't fear them. The majority in America are not radicals and pose no threat to our safety. They are individuals worthy of respect and equal treatment just like everyone else. I feel it's sad that many have come to fear all Muslims and vilify them based on the actions of a radical minority who have preformed terrorist attacks.
 

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I don't get nervous when I see people in Islamic clothing in my plane. I grew up with Muslims and I don't fear them. The majority in America are not radicals and pose no threat to our safety. They are individuals worthy of respect and equal treatment just like everyone else. I feel it's sad that many have come to fear all Muslims and vilify them based on the actions of a radical minority who have preformed terrorist attacks.



I presume then that YOU believe the Majority are Dead set against the Radicals and wish to fully assimilate ino Western societies ???? Is that correct (??)
 

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I have to admit that I would be just a little bit nervous. 9/11 was the first really big tragedy that I remember and it really affected me. I know it's not wise to suspect every single Muslim because there are very good Muslims (some are parents of my students). But if I saw Muslims in full garb on my airplane, I don't think I could help not being just a little bit nervous especially if they were also visibly nervous or chanting something.

I hope I don't get fired for saying that. :2razz:
 

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I don't get nervous, but then again I've always been "causious" whenever I fly.

I would purposely perform a visual scan of the passengers as I boarded my flight out of habit long before 9/11. I did so because while I was in the military sometimes I would have to take flights that originated from overseas back to the states, and we would always receive these "travel alerts" - common practise for the Armed Services even as a mild cautionary warning when traveling abroad, but not so much for American civilians. So, I just feel into the habit of "keeping my eyes peeled".

I don't travel by air nearly as much now, but in those few instances when I did that old habit would naturally return.
 

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Juan Williams was fired from NPR for saying that he gets nervous.

NPR Fires Juan Williams Over Muslim Comments | The Blaze

When you see (or if you saw) people dressed in Muslim garb getting onto your airplane, is there any moment of uneasyness or nervousness in you?

I voted "a little bit." It would cause me to be more observant of what they were doing. If they don't like it, then they shouldn't dress like Osama BinFreakiin' Laden on an airplane.

A shame he was fired. I wonder, had he said something like, "On a dark street, when two Black guys with gang colors on walk by, I get nervous."

Maybe, maybe not.
I was supposedly abused when young, so my responses are "colored", even biased.
More-so I am NOT sure at all as the appearance of a terrorist ..
Mr Williams was being honest and open, maybe his mistake.
Nor do I believe he was fired for this reason (being human)....
I do know that the right-wing nut cases twist and spin the news - this I find to be despicable.

Can't help commentng on your second sentence...."supposedly abused." ?
 

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Maybe, maybe not.
I was supposedly abused when young, so my responses are "colored", even biased.
More-so I am NOT sure at all as the appearance of a terrorist ..
Mr Williams was being honest and open, maybe his mistake.
Nor do I believe he was fired for this reason (being human)....
I do know that the right-wing nut cases twist and spin the news - this I find to be despicable.

Sounds like you have been reading too much libral spin.
 

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Does that happen to you alot or something?

I don't fly as often as I used to... when I did after 2001 to about 2007, yes. I seemed to always sit next to people who were nervous, hated flying, got airsick,whatever. Not every time but I'd say about 50% of the time - and don't get me wrong - I'm not complaining. I'll take sick bags over a 5 hour flight of kids screaming and kicking the back of my seat.
 

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These guys would make me more nervous...

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There was a dude, who was on one of my flights, who had a jacket, that had a grenade on the back and wings sprouting out of it.

Talk about innapropriate attire, I'm surprised he didn't get a cavity search wearing that thing through security.

That or shot on site, when he came within a mile of the building.
 
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