O_Guru
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This seems like a fairly universal topic. Why do you limit it to Americans. Is it more important to care for fellow Americans than for your fellow human beings? Just interested why you used that phrase.
Yeah but you idea of responsible could have nothing to do with freedoms rights and the constitution.
"responsible" is very subjective.
Not saying you think this way at all but IM sure there are people that think its irresponsible for a white person to marry a black person, or its irresponsible to let women vote, or let muslims on an airplane. Etc etc
But stopping any 3 of those things would definitely infringe on rights and freedoms.
Again I'm not saying you think any of these are true I'm just pointing out how using responsibility (totally subjective) as a deciding factor could also mean a person does NOT care about your fellow american.
I don't consider any of those things to be a matter of responsibility. Those are personal preference. I'm more concerned with people making good choices in their lives that they can take care of and fund on their own without having to turn to society at large. That means people need to get an education, people need to get work experience, people need to have a work ethic so they can remain employed and advance in their chosen profession. People need to be responsible, not breed until they can afford to do so, not do stupid things in their lives and avoid potential pitfalls that can ruin their lives. There just isn't any excuse that any normal human being can't succeed in life, we give them all of the basics for free and all they have to do is take advantage of them.
Who you marry, what color they are, what gender they are, those have nothing whatsoever to do with responsibility.
I agree but others disagree that why Ii asked you to clarify.
People do NEED to do those things you mention but it's not always that easy. Also what you call normal some disagree on and stand in they way of those people because they don't think they are normal.
But responsibility, in the sense that we're talking about, has nothing whatsoever to do with those things, so they are irrelevant.
I used "normal" to differentiate them from, say, the mentally retarded or the physically disabled, people who are just not capable of doing those things on their own. They fall into their own category and ought to be helped. Your run-of-the-mill Joe who has no excuse for not being able to get out of bed in the morning and go to work, ignoring the current economic state for the moment, shouldn't have any excuses for not doing so.
I have no idea how accurate this, but I get the impression that the Occupy groups are more uninformed or malinformed individules.
Of course, that's probably because IMO they should be protesting politicians along with the money that buys them.
My, but I'm cynical today...
I meant that I get the impression (mistaken or not) that occupy groups are protesting the money and ignoring the politicians.The occupy groups are protesting the money that buys the politicians. Where does the money come from? Sure, some of it is "old" money, but the people on wall street are stockpiling the money for the people who are bankrolling everything.
Currently impossible, given the following:most people care about themselves,and whos gonna pickup after their mistakes.no policy can ever fix this unless this country went full on socialist.
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