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Does anyone here believe in ghost or have any experiences to share?
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Do you believe in ghosts????? (1 Viewer)
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alphieb said:
I don't believe in ghost.As a christian the whole concept of ghosts just undermines the whole concept of heaven and hell,nobody would be in hell they all would be ghosts haunting every house on earth if there was such things as ghosts.
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alphieb said:
No. Nor "UFOs", fortune telling, or much of anything.
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Do I "Believe" in Ghosts.....No. Though I have experienced a few things I cannot rationally explain, History dictates this type of forum is not a good place to share such things, primarily due to the reactions of people like those who posted before me.
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On the one hand I would say no. However.....
We bought an old house from a young couple who only lived here 4 years. Before them, there was an elderly couple, Mr. and Mrs. Grinley. Supposedly, Mr. Grinley was a stickler for things. He had a grape arbor in the backyard that he tended to and until the young couple moved in, the house was pretty much as it was when it was built.
The house has a small pantry. We installed extra shelving. One night the sound of something falling sent me into the pantry to find a box of spaghetti lying on the floor. Not too unusual until you realize it was behind other things.
This went on for a while-things far removed from edges falling to the floor.
The back bedroom in the house was our tv room. Every now and then this overwhelming smell of what I called 'old lady's perfume' would waft through. Never gave it too much thought, but to think how odd. A few years after we'd been living here, in a conversation with the neighbors, we found out that room had been Mrs. Grinley's toward the end of her life. She died in there. BLEH!**** /cue spooky music
Second hmmmm...
For 10 years we tried to have kids. Doctors, surgeries, adoption applications, etc. One day while visiting my grandparents in Brooklyn, my grandmother asked my mom "why is she always so sad looking?" Mom told her it was because I can't seem to get pregnant. (Actually, I always look sad, but....)
Grandma had twin boys and was the sister of twin boys and possibly boy/girl twins as well.
Fast forward to 1991. Grandma died that year in March, just before her 83rd birthday. In June, I went for a relatively new surgical procedure called GIFT and one month later, found out I was expecting twins, due on.......
Grandma's birthday. For years after they were born, we pondered who my daughter looked like. We'd used donor sperm, but still...my son looked like a perfect blend of us both, but the daughter had us stumped. One day, my mother, while cleaning out her house in preparation for a move, found an old picture of my grandmother at about 14 years old. It was....my daughter.
/cue spooky music..fade to black
We bought an old house from a young couple who only lived here 4 years. Before them, there was an elderly couple, Mr. and Mrs. Grinley. Supposedly, Mr. Grinley was a stickler for things. He had a grape arbor in the backyard that he tended to and until the young couple moved in, the house was pretty much as it was when it was built.
The house has a small pantry. We installed extra shelving. One night the sound of something falling sent me into the pantry to find a box of spaghetti lying on the floor. Not too unusual until you realize it was behind other things.
This went on for a while-things far removed from edges falling to the floor.
The back bedroom in the house was our tv room. Every now and then this overwhelming smell of what I called 'old lady's perfume' would waft through. Never gave it too much thought, but to think how odd. A few years after we'd been living here, in a conversation with the neighbors, we found out that room had been Mrs. Grinley's toward the end of her life. She died in there. BLEH!**** /cue spooky music
Second hmmmm...
For 10 years we tried to have kids. Doctors, surgeries, adoption applications, etc. One day while visiting my grandparents in Brooklyn, my grandmother asked my mom "why is she always so sad looking?" Mom told her it was because I can't seem to get pregnant. (Actually, I always look sad, but....)
Grandma had twin boys and was the sister of twin boys and possibly boy/girl twins as well.
Fast forward to 1991. Grandma died that year in March, just before her 83rd birthday. In June, I went for a relatively new surgical procedure called GIFT and one month later, found out I was expecting twins, due on.......
Grandma's birthday. For years after they were born, we pondered who my daughter looked like. We'd used donor sperm, but still...my son looked like a perfect blend of us both, but the daughter had us stumped. One day, my mother, while cleaning out her house in preparation for a move, found an old picture of my grandmother at about 14 years old. It was....my daughter.
/cue spooky music..fade to black
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jamesrage said:
If you are a Christian, you essentially believe in ghosts, what with the all knowing bodyless man floating in the sky, and the flying angels and crap.
And bible stories are even less plausible than most ghost stories I hear.
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I definitely believe in ghosts. I've heard way too many stories not to. And when my son was an infant we had all these really weird completely ridiculous and unexplainable experiences that went on for a few weeks. However all of those took place in my son's bedroom and often when he was breastfeeding. They scared the hell out of me and freaked my husband quite a bit too. However my mother thinks that it was my son "making strange stuff happen" vs. a ghost and that idea made things a little less scary. Then weird stuff completely stopped happening and everything went back to normal and we've never had anything strange happen since. When my daughter was born....nothing. So I don't know if we had a ghost or if my son had some weird "abilities" as an infant or what. But something was definitely going on. That whole experience made me rethink how I "hear" people when they tell their ghost stories. I used to be way more skeptical but now I'm more open.
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Yeah....
I am an officer in the military - the 1st officer in a long line of men/relatives on both sides of the family ever to make officer. When I first was commissioned, I headed down to Tyndall FB, Panama City, Fla. for training. At that time, an uncle of mine was in a hospital in S.C., terminally ill from cancer. He was expected to die at any time.
Harold Reed, my uncle, had joined the military at age 18 and served a long time, including time in Viet Nam. He had been extremely proud of me when I received my commission but was unable to attend the ceremony because of his hospitalization.
At about 2 a.m. one night morning in Panama City, as I lay asleep in my apartment bed, I got this feeling - the feeling that youKNOW someone is watching you, the feeling you know someone is close by and looking at you. Iam not sure if everyone gets that, but with 'special' militay training our senses are trained to become heightened, almost like some 7th sense. (My commrades and I have learned over time to never ignore those!)
I opened my eyes to find a young man standing at the foot of my bed. The second thing I quickly realized is that I could NOT move at all. The interesting thing was thatit did not panic me at all. In fact, I felt extremely (un-naturally?) calm. Turning my attentionback to the man before me, I realized he had an OLD Army uniform on - Viet Nam era. As I looked up towards his face, I saw him smile, nod his head, and then he turned and stepped out of the room through the door located right at the foot of my bed.
The moment he stepped from view I suddenly found I could move again, and I leapt out of bed and towards the door. I had a studio apartment - a bedroom, bathroom, and combination den/dining room/kitchen, so once through the door, in remarkably short time, there was no place for the man to go except out the door. Rounding the doorway, I came out to an empty room. A quick check of all doors and windows showed that no one had gotten in that way. A few seconds later my phone rang - it was my mom back in S.C. She informed me that my uncle had died aproximately 5 minutes earlier. I shared with her my story, and she seems to believe that it was my uncle coming to see me to say how proud he was of me and to give a nod of approval. Left with no other explanation, I look back and think so, too.
Such a thing happened only once since. After returning to our base station from a Special Op, I was wounded, bandaged, totally exhausted - physically spent. Buddies helped me back to my house up in Alaska where I climbed in bed and intended to sleep for several days if I could. The Op had not gone as planned, some distrbing things happened, and my sleep, along with my wounds, aches, and pains kept my sleep restless.
Somewhere in my sleep, I got that feeling again - someone was in the room. I opened my eyes and strained to raise my head. If it had been some intruder, there isn't much I would have been able to do, but it was no 'intruder'. There in the far back right corner of my room stood a man. He was leaning against the wall, arms crossed, one leg crossed in front of the other as he propped against the wall. He was staring out the window, which overlooked a little town below called Muldoon. I could not make out his face or features, but he seemed to glow in the dark room with a soft radience.
Although I made no sound, He KNEW I was awake and turned to meet my gaze. Once again, I suddenly felt like I could not move (though I did not feel like doing so anyway) and felt 'that' calm. He smiled at me, nodded at me, and in that second, it was almost like someone was talking in my head - 'Its OK, I'm keeping watch'. He paused for a second then crossed the room silently, then left out of the door in the far back left corner of the room. I still felt that calm, was too exhausted to run after the 'visitor' this time, flopped my head back on the pillow, and sunk into a deep, dreamless sleep. I asked my buddies later whohad come over and kept watch, but they all denied knowing anything about it.
I don't have any explanation for it. A pastor I talked to said he believed that 'someone' was keeping watch over me when I needed it most, but who or what that someone was he could not say.
Believe these stories or not - Looking back, I am not sure I believe them at times. Still, I know they happened. Do I fight to try to gain some understanding? No. Some things just are what they are and don't require our understanding.
As far as ghosts and demons - the Bible talks about people possessed by demons, how he drove the demons out and into a pig that ran into the river and drowned itself. If you believe the Bible then you have to believe in demons. look at some of the 'ordinary' people todaywho do some of the mosthideous things out of the blue, their neighbors saying you would never have guessed that their neighbor was such a psycho. Demons? Who knows. And if you believe the bible and believe demons can exists, shynot Angels?
It is up to each one of to decide for ourselves!
I am an officer in the military - the 1st officer in a long line of men/relatives on both sides of the family ever to make officer. When I first was commissioned, I headed down to Tyndall FB, Panama City, Fla. for training. At that time, an uncle of mine was in a hospital in S.C., terminally ill from cancer. He was expected to die at any time.
Harold Reed, my uncle, had joined the military at age 18 and served a long time, including time in Viet Nam. He had been extremely proud of me when I received my commission but was unable to attend the ceremony because of his hospitalization.
At about 2 a.m. one night morning in Panama City, as I lay asleep in my apartment bed, I got this feeling - the feeling that youKNOW someone is watching you, the feeling you know someone is close by and looking at you. Iam not sure if everyone gets that, but with 'special' militay training our senses are trained to become heightened, almost like some 7th sense. (My commrades and I have learned over time to never ignore those!)
I opened my eyes to find a young man standing at the foot of my bed. The second thing I quickly realized is that I could NOT move at all. The interesting thing was thatit did not panic me at all. In fact, I felt extremely (un-naturally?) calm. Turning my attentionback to the man before me, I realized he had an OLD Army uniform on - Viet Nam era. As I looked up towards his face, I saw him smile, nod his head, and then he turned and stepped out of the room through the door located right at the foot of my bed.
The moment he stepped from view I suddenly found I could move again, and I leapt out of bed and towards the door. I had a studio apartment - a bedroom, bathroom, and combination den/dining room/kitchen, so once through the door, in remarkably short time, there was no place for the man to go except out the door. Rounding the doorway, I came out to an empty room. A quick check of all doors and windows showed that no one had gotten in that way. A few seconds later my phone rang - it was my mom back in S.C. She informed me that my uncle had died aproximately 5 minutes earlier. I shared with her my story, and she seems to believe that it was my uncle coming to see me to say how proud he was of me and to give a nod of approval. Left with no other explanation, I look back and think so, too.
Such a thing happened only once since. After returning to our base station from a Special Op, I was wounded, bandaged, totally exhausted - physically spent. Buddies helped me back to my house up in Alaska where I climbed in bed and intended to sleep for several days if I could. The Op had not gone as planned, some distrbing things happened, and my sleep, along with my wounds, aches, and pains kept my sleep restless.
Somewhere in my sleep, I got that feeling again - someone was in the room. I opened my eyes and strained to raise my head. If it had been some intruder, there isn't much I would have been able to do, but it was no 'intruder'. There in the far back right corner of my room stood a man. He was leaning against the wall, arms crossed, one leg crossed in front of the other as he propped against the wall. He was staring out the window, which overlooked a little town below called Muldoon. I could not make out his face or features, but he seemed to glow in the dark room with a soft radience.
Although I made no sound, He KNEW I was awake and turned to meet my gaze. Once again, I suddenly felt like I could not move (though I did not feel like doing so anyway) and felt 'that' calm. He smiled at me, nodded at me, and in that second, it was almost like someone was talking in my head - 'Its OK, I'm keeping watch'. He paused for a second then crossed the room silently, then left out of the door in the far back left corner of the room. I still felt that calm, was too exhausted to run after the 'visitor' this time, flopped my head back on the pillow, and sunk into a deep, dreamless sleep. I asked my buddies later whohad come over and kept watch, but they all denied knowing anything about it.
I don't have any explanation for it. A pastor I talked to said he believed that 'someone' was keeping watch over me when I needed it most, but who or what that someone was he could not say.
Believe these stories or not - Looking back, I am not sure I believe them at times. Still, I know they happened. Do I fight to try to gain some understanding? No. Some things just are what they are and don't require our understanding.
As far as ghosts and demons - the Bible talks about people possessed by demons, how he drove the demons out and into a pig that ran into the river and drowned itself. If you believe the Bible then you have to believe in demons. look at some of the 'ordinary' people todaywho do some of the mosthideous things out of the blue, their neighbors saying you would never have guessed that their neighbor was such a psycho. Demons? Who knows. And if you believe the bible and believe demons can exists, shynot Angels?
It is up to each one of to decide for ourselves!
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I totally believe in ghosts. I always hear wierd noises and one time I kept turning the t.v. off and it would turn right back on like 4 times. It may not be much but it spooks me out!!
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Actually, it was one person possessed by a "demon" which was "cast out" into a herd of swine that subsequently ran off of a cliff.
I have always wonderded, pork being taboo and all back in those days, why was there a "herd of swine" even present?
Those kinda things make me say hmmmmmmm????
Good stories EZ. I enjoyed reading them. Thanks!:2wave:
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Funny I had a dream abot a ghost last night. But No I don't.
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To boo or not to boo. That is the question.:shock:
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I've seen some pretty weird **** in my life, but this story tops it. I'll just make this statement first. This is not made up! I saw it with my very own eyes.
It was 2003. I was sitting at my computer and typing a short story. After an hour my internet goes down and there seems to be heavy rain outside. Then my screen goes black... and it's not rebooting. Then I press the power button. Nothing. I say "**** it's frozen" then the something pops onto the screem:
Nope
Then the computer reboots. By this time I was calling my cousin in the other room to "GET THE F*** IN HERE". It was like that scene in the matrix. I didn't sleep for days. I didn't use my computer for weeks. Oddly enough ever since the incident my computer has never gotten a virus nor has it froze, which was a major problem before it happened.
I'm not saying it was ghost. I'm not the kind of person who makes assumptions on things that we can't explain... oh sorry organized religion. I'm just saying that I have proof that this weird **** happens form time to time to people who never expect it.
I just hope it's not me from the future messing with my past self.
It was 2003. I was sitting at my computer and typing a short story. After an hour my internet goes down and there seems to be heavy rain outside. Then my screen goes black... and it's not rebooting. Then I press the power button. Nothing. I say "**** it's frozen" then the something pops onto the screem:
Nope
Then the computer reboots. By this time I was calling my cousin in the other room to "GET THE F*** IN HERE". It was like that scene in the matrix. I didn't sleep for days. I didn't use my computer for weeks. Oddly enough ever since the incident my computer has never gotten a virus nor has it froze, which was a major problem before it happened.
I'm not saying it was ghost. I'm not the kind of person who makes assumptions on things that we can't explain... oh sorry organized religion. I'm just saying that I have proof that this weird **** happens form time to time to people who never expect it.
I just hope it's not me from the future messing with my past self.
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One time, at band camp.......................
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alphieb said:
Of course ghosts are real, just ask the citizens of Gettysburg.
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nope, sorry. :2wave:
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star2589 said:
Do you believe that my computer talked to me? There is more to the universe than we can explain so don't make assumptions until you can experience the "more" of the universe which you and I will never do.
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ngdawg said:On the one hand I would say no. However.....
We bought an old house from a young couple who only lived here 4 years. Before them, there was an elderly couple, Mr. and Mrs. Grinley. Supposedly, Mr. Grinley was a stickler for things. He had a grape arbor in the backyard that he tended to and until the young couple moved in, the house was pretty much as it was when it was built.
The house has a small pantry. We installed extra shelving. One night the sound of something falling sent me into the pantry to find a box of spaghetti lying on the floor. Not too unusual until you realize it was behind other things.
This went on for a while-things far removed from edges falling to the floor.
The back bedroom in the house was our tv room. Every now and then this overwhelming smell of what I called 'old lady's perfume' would waft through. Never gave it too much thought, but to think how odd. A few years after we'd been living here, in a conversation with the neighbors, we found out that room had been Mrs. Grinley's toward the end of her life. She died in there. BLEH!**** /cue spooky music
Second hmmmm...
For 10 years we tried to have kids. Doctors, surgeries, adoption applications, etc. One day while visiting my grandparents in Brooklyn, my grandmother asked my mom "why is she always so sad looking?" Mom told her it was because I can't seem to get pregnant. (Actually, I always look sad, but....)
Grandma had twin boys and was the sister of twin boys and possibly boy/girl twins as well.
Fast forward to 1991. Grandma died that year in March, just before her 83rd birthday. In June, I went for a relatively new surgical procedure called GIFT and one month later, found out I was expecting twins, due on.......
Grandma's birthday. For years after they were born, we pondered who my daughter looked like. We'd used donor sperm, but still...my son looked like a perfect blend of us both, but the daughter had us stumped. One day, my mother, while cleaning out her house in preparation for a move, found an old picture of my grandmother at about 14 years old. It was....my daughter.
/cue spooky music..fade to black
I love interesting stories like that.
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Sir_Alec said:
LOL............................
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I have never had any ghost experiences, so I can't say that I believe. If I did I don't know what I would do. I would probably just think I was losing my mind. I have heard other people's stories, but I don't know that I believe them.
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It may be a little harder to read the accounts of those that have these type experiences discerning what is true and that that which is fabricated, usually based on some small truth. In all of my counsellings as a minister I have heard many strange stories that I may or not eventually share here... The one common perception in these said stories are the passions whereby they are told, forcing conclusion that even if I were ultimately choosing not to believe them, it is not going to make them any less believed by those that are telling.alphieb said:
Take the account given here by easyt65's uncle passing. As faith leaders we are taught early on to take all things and line them up with the word of God for to see weather they have a validity by the confirmation thereof. A bit of cross referencing scriptures accompanied with the fact that I have heard many stories of this nature by persons I personally know and find credible. I have maybe less doubt then even he that this did actually occur;
However, I would encourage him to find that understanding as I am fully convinced that God does not allow these things to happen/be seen without reason, usually multiple ones. Like say, not only for him, but to honor a passing uncles request before entering into the heavenlies. I conclude easy your uncle was a righteous man for God to even honor such request... And that would be a key note of my council to you had you approached me personally as a pastor for answers of sort... And while some, even yourself, may not have seen him in righteous light, we should always consider it is God that judges/sees the heart... Man can only judge the outward appearances. Your sharing this story immediately with your mom may well have set in motion God's own plan toward comforting others likely grieving harder than yourself. Many people often pray "Oh God, please use me." Often never even knowing when He has... More honored to be the vessel He chooses in and of His own.easyt65 said:
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I believe things when I have reason to believe them. I have never experienced anything which leads me to believe in ghosts, and I dont trust others peoples accounts to be accurate, and so by default I dont believe in them.
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Thanks Apostle, I think you are right about sharing with my mom.
In another direction, I think God sends Angels down sometimes to intervene/help, yet i am not sure about THIS one.
I heard a story on the History Channel about an English officer (Brit) from WWII talking about how he and his group were fighting against the Germans. They were outnumbered and backed in some type of valley t- the German Army within sight, coming straight on, with tanks and infantry. He said he called to his troops to kneel and pray, which they did. After they finished, they stood up and prepared to fight to the last man.
The Brit Commander said all of a sudden the German troops stopped - their troops looked frightened, and they all began to turn and run. The tanks wheeled around and began to retreat. The Brit soldiers began to cheer, but the Brit Commander turned to try to find what had made them retreat. He said that he saw behind them, floating some 30 feetin the air, was what he called an Angel: Larger than any person, some 3-4 times as big, flowing gold and white robes, huge white wings, golden flowing hair, brandishing a sword in huge sword in one hand and a shied in the other. He said she was there for only a minute or so more before vanishing but that he was not the only other person to see it, as others in his unit witnessed it too.
The History channel even tracked down a soldier in the German Amy who had been there that day. They had him on the show as well, and he told of how they had boxed in the Brits and were ordered to kill them to the last man. He, too, told of how they had crested the hill to find the Brits waiting for their deaths....when suddenly a 'vision' appeared above the Brittish army....an 'Angelic Knight', nearly as bright as the sun and holding aloft a huge sword and shield. He said at that sight, the Germans broke and ran, not willing to fight anyone with such a protector.
I saw the show, but I can not say that I believe the story...but I dare not say that it did not happen, either.
In another direction, I think God sends Angels down sometimes to intervene/help, yet i am not sure about THIS one.
I heard a story on the History Channel about an English officer (Brit) from WWII talking about how he and his group were fighting against the Germans. They were outnumbered and backed in some type of valley t- the German Army within sight, coming straight on, with tanks and infantry. He said he called to his troops to kneel and pray, which they did. After they finished, they stood up and prepared to fight to the last man.
The Brit Commander said all of a sudden the German troops stopped - their troops looked frightened, and they all began to turn and run. The tanks wheeled around and began to retreat. The Brit soldiers began to cheer, but the Brit Commander turned to try to find what had made them retreat. He said that he saw behind them, floating some 30 feetin the air, was what he called an Angel: Larger than any person, some 3-4 times as big, flowing gold and white robes, huge white wings, golden flowing hair, brandishing a sword in huge sword in one hand and a shied in the other. He said she was there for only a minute or so more before vanishing but that he was not the only other person to see it, as others in his unit witnessed it too.
The History channel even tracked down a soldier in the German Amy who had been there that day. They had him on the show as well, and he told of how they had boxed in the Brits and were ordered to kill them to the last man. He, too, told of how they had crested the hill to find the Brits waiting for their deaths....when suddenly a 'vision' appeared above the Brittish army....an 'Angelic Knight', nearly as bright as the sun and holding aloft a huge sword and shield. He said at that sight, the Germans broke and ran, not willing to fight anyone with such a protector.
I saw the show, but I can not say that I believe the story...but I dare not say that it did not happen, either.