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Do you believe Epstein had no "client list," and died by suicide?

Do you believe Epstein had no "client list," and died by suicide?

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Do you believe Epstein had no "client list," and died by suicide?
 
Im willing to believe that the version of the Epstein client list that "happens to contain the name of every public figure I dislike" doesn't exist, but its hard not to assume given the nature of his demise and the confusion around it that there isnt still some dirt out there.
 
The man for sure had a lot of dirt on certain people.

Either someone took him out to keep him from spilling, or he took himself out because staying alive was a worse option.

Either way, I'm pretty confident in saying that anyone who was a known associate of Epstein should be kept FAR AWAY from any positions in government.
 
Yes to client list, no to suicide. JFKJr. style conspiracy theories will exist until we get ALL the info and who knows when that will be.

BTW, two separate questions, so at least four options should have been provided in the poll, two for the client list and two for the suicide.

I should ALWAYS be consulted on how to do a proper poll, amirite? 😇
 
ColdHardTruth said:
There was a client list. Trump's name is on it so it's being suppressed.
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Can provide a link to such list?
I personally don't know or care one way or the other. But if there is a list a lot of high ranking officials would probably be on it so it both democrats wand republicans and isn't just Trump.
After all Trump in the 90's was friends with a lot of potential democrats on that list.
So I suggest you and others be careful for what you wish for.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
Do you believe Epstein had no "client list," and died by suicide?
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Epstein was a hardcore pedo. Even Trump said that publicly. As far as I have been able to determine Epstein did not have the personal marketable value to make the kind of money he required to support his lavish lifestyle.

Epstein appears to have been more than willing to share his perversion with very famous, very wealthy, very well connected people from all over the world. Did he blackmail many of them? I would not be surprised. Why involve them other than for protection and for money?

Do Netanyahu and Putin have dirty pictures Epstein may have shared for a price? If they were able to obtain them you damn skippy they have them.

Did Epstein off himself? It seems improbable.
 
StillBallin75 said:
The man for sure had a lot of dirt on certain people.

Either someone took him out to keep him from spilling, or he took himself out because staying alive was a worse option.

Either way, I'm pretty confident in saying that anyone who was a known associate of Epstein should be kept FAR AWAY from any positions in government.
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I'm pretty sure that's a very large list and contains many who are in politics or who exert extreme influence over our politics. It's not as important to be the politican as it is to be the one directing the politician's every important action.

Don't know if it was suicide, but seems 50/50. Don't know if there is an actual list, but certainly he had contact lists, with names, addresses, phone numbers at the very least. He was reportedly a source for the feds so I bet he had information on lots of folks. Those people don't like to be revealed.
 
I don’t believe there ever has been a client list. I also don’t believe his death was a suicide.
 
antiquity said:
Can provide a link to such list?
I personally don't know or care one way or the other. But if there is a list a lot of high ranking officials would probably be on it so it both democrats wand republicans and isn't just Trump.
After all Trump in the 90's was friends with a lot of potential democrats on that list.
So I suggest you and others be careful for what you wish for.
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I am well aware of who is on that list.

Trump needs to be exposed.
 
I think the framing matters. I believe that administration officials can say with a straight face that "there was no client list", because the evidence did not include a document entitled "List Of People I Have Trafficked Underage Girls To".

However, I absolutely believe that they could create such a document with the data they have (or at least, have claimed, or have access to) with varying levels of certainty including:
  • What they have described as "child porn", which probably includes two people, one of which will be a victim, and one of which will not be.
  • Flight data showing who went to the Island, especially multiple trips
  • Bank data showing who made large financial transfers, particularly after a trip to the island
  • Communications data seized from Maxwell and Epstein

At this point, however, it seems clear that enough senior leaders of both parties (and their major financial supporters) would be implicated by such a listing that neither party is willing to expose that data. So we are going to get some set of claims that boil down to "LOL, well, we did CTRL+F, but, nothing with the title of 'List Of People I Have Trafficked Underage Girls To And Then Blackmailed' popped up, so..... I guess Epstein hung himself and Maxwell is in prison for trafficking girls to nobody!"
 
1. Probably.

2. Don't care. Traffickers in children should die by suicide. Ideally, as soon as they have the first whiff of a pedo urge or desire.
 
antiquity said:
Can provide a link to such list?
I personally don't know or care one way or the other. But if there is a list a lot of high ranking officials would probably be on it so it both democrats wand republicans and isn't just Trump.
After all Trump in the 90's was friends with a lot of potential democrats on that list.
So I suggest you and others be careful for what you wish for.
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In this case there is nothing to be sorry for. You know there are Bible thumpers, elected politicians of both sides and supposed humanitarians in the book.

They should all be publicly humiliated and face all possible criminal charges.
 
Napoleon said:
I don’t believe there ever has been a client list. I also don’t believe his death was a suicide.
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The comical thing about the not-suicide CT is you people blamed Clinton when he was in a federal facility managed by the Trump administration.
 
Bok Tuklo said:
The comical thing about the not-suicide CT is you people blamed Clinton when he was in a federal facility managed by the Trump administration.
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I didn’t blame Clinton. Go whine at the “you people” you’re talking about.
 
ColdHardTruth said:
There was a client list. Trump's name is on it so it's being suppressed.
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That's right. Only been dead since 2019, and he's the only high profile figure on said list.
I mean, just put it out there and let the cards fall where they may. Whoever did the deeds; let them reap the consequence.

I'm sure there are plenty of big figures you would likely side with on there as well.

Depraved doesn't know a political affiliation. They are out there from all aspects, and probably had a weekend bender on Epstein Island.

So of course Trump, and many others are doing what they can behind the scenes to 'make it go away'.
Probably a few non-political figures shuffling a little wealth to the political as we speak.

It ain't just Trump. And that's the cold hard truth.
 
Chock Full o Nuts said:
That's right. Only been dead since 2019, and he's the only high profile figure on said list.
I mean, just put it out there and let the cards fall where they may. Whoever did the deeds; let them reap the consequence.

I'm sure there are plenty of big figures you would likely side with on there as well.

Depraved doesn't know a political affiliation. They are out there from all aspects, and probably had a weekend bender on Epstein Island.

So of course Trump, and many others are doing what they can behind the scenes to 'make it go away'.
Probably a few non-political figures shuffling a little wealth to the political as we speak.

It ain't just Trump. And that's the cold hard truth.
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You can write such tool things sometimes.

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How does a private school math teacher amass a multi-million dollar fortune?
 
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