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I saw this picture on the internet and was curious what others thought of it.
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I saw this picture on the internet and was curious what others thought of it.
I saw this picture on the internet and was curious what others thought of it.
Of course I agree, it is in fact why I then chose to be Conservative.
Hmm...
Let me put it this way.
People as individuals are often well-intentioned. They don't really mean any harm.
Get a bunch of those individuals together and get them fired up about something and you have a MOB. Mobs have a regrettable tendency to destroy things and harm people.
"Government" is a sort of organized mob. It's a large number of people devoted to telling an even larger number of people what to do. This sort of thing tends to be unpopular, unless it is someone else's ox getting gored.
Much of what passes for "liberalism" these days, consists of policies that I believe would "Gore my ox". Therefore I tend to view the end results of liberalism as largely bad... on days when I'm feeling testy, I might even go so far as to say "evil."
That doesn't mean I think individual liberals are evil people individually. I expect almost all of them mean well.... with a few possible exceptions like Babs Boxer and Harry Reid. I just think that when they get together en-mass and try to run things that the end results tend to be bad for almost everyone.
Best I know how to explain it...
Where ya been dude?:2wave:
Nothing can exist without its opposite. Were it to cease existing, it would be bad.
If liberalism was absolute, we'd be in trouble. If conservatism was absolute, we'd be in trouble.
Would you want to live in a world where guys like Navy Pride or Disneydude called shots? I know I wouldn't.
Nothing can exist without its opposite. Were it to cease existing, it would be bad.
If liberalism was absolute, we'd be in trouble. If conservatism was absolute, we'd be in trouble.
Would you want to live in a world where guys like Navy Pride or Disneydude called shots? I know I wouldn't.
One of the best, most concise and logical posts I could imagine on this matter.
I do have to ask, though, not to bring up members in something like this. It's somewhat attacking.
Then how about instead of two sides balancing each other out, everybody just gravitates toward the center. Same policies, less BS.
Hmm...
Let me put it this way.
People as individuals are often well-intentioned. They don't really mean any harm.
Get a bunch of those individuals together and get them fired up about something and you have a MOB. Mobs have a regrettable tendency to destroy things and harm people.
"Government" is a sort of organized mob. It's a large number of people devoted to telling an even larger number of people what to do. This sort of thing tends to be unpopular, unless it is someone else's ox getting gored.
Much of what passes for "liberalism" these days, consists of policies that I believe would "Gore my ox". Therefore I tend to view the end results of liberalism as largely bad... on days when I'm feeling testy, I might even go so far as to say "evil."
That doesn't mean I think individual liberals are evil people individually. I expect almost all of them mean well.... with a few possible exceptions like Babs Boxer and Harry Reid. I just think that when they get together en-mass and try to run things that the end results tend to be bad for almost everyone.
Best I know how to explain it...
I think either extreme would be a nightmare. But thats why I used words like generally and seem in responding to Goshin's post. I didn't want to discount the fact that some good ideas come out of that side of the aisle.
Is that the same as Conservative Liberalism?That's why Liberal Conservatism is the best.
Is that the same as Conservative Liberalism?
Conservative liberalism[1][2] is a variant of liberalism, combining liberal values and policies with conservative stances, or, more simply, representing the right-wing of the liberal movement.[3]
Liberal conservatism is a variant of political conservatism which incorporates liberal elements. As "conservatism" and "liberalism" have had different meanings over time and across countries, the term "liberal conservatism" has been used in quite different senses, and in some countries would be considered an oxymoron. In general, it has carried two broad meanings.
Modern European liberal conservatism combines current conservative policies with more liberal stances on social or moral issues.[1] Most centre-right political parties in Europe are usually liberal conservative. Compared to a different group of centre-right parties, such as Christian democratic parties, liberal conservatism is less traditionalist, and usually more libertarian economically, favouring low-taxes and small government.
The TPN statement can not be further from the truth. As a conservative, I understand that people are different and come to different conclusion. Because of this, some people when given the chance lend themselves toward liberalism. To think that half the nation is being deluded and controlled and will automatically pick "freedom" is just a delusional as the Liberals thinking W caused 9/11.
The fact remains that we should be kicking out of office anyone, liberal or conservative, who doesn't cherish one ideal: Compromise. You can cherish most other ideals but you should have this one at the top. Anyone who thinks that only their ideals matter and that everyone should be forced to follow their way (as most of our elected officials do now) is the antithesis of this country. Our problem is not having correct ideas to fix things. Our problem is that the people we elect, and frankly the people we select to run for office, don't want to compromise or work together. They mirror the nation. We all want to b$tch and complain and hate other and so we elect people like us. Until the People of the United States learn that working together is what got us to the Moon, won WWII, industrialized this nation, as well as got us to where we are, then we deserve statements like these. Compromise is what allowed us all these things.