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Still part of the Arian tradition, broadly considered.eace
Like I said, to you, what I pointed out might be quibbling...but to us such are very important points. Arias would not have agreed with what we believe.
The Christian ethic of caring for the poor and weak is the best part of Christianity and it used to play important part of in moderating the worst aspects of ruthless capitalism. Lack of concern for the poor isn't just a political view or ethic, it is a mental disorder.
"Antisocial (or dissocial) personality disorder is characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for, or violation of, the rights of others. There may be an impoverished moral sense or conscience and a history of crime, legal problems, impulsive and aggressive behavior..."
Wikipedia
A good government understands that some citizens will be antisocial and constructs laws to limit the negative consequences. And since Congress is prevented from establishing a religion it follows that Christian morality on charity and the poor should not be part of our laws. There are sufficient Christians who can support Christian charities to complete that mission if they choose. And if there are not enough Christians to voluntarily sponsor these charities than government should not be doing that mission for them.
It seems to be bad public policy to expend precious resources on people who are unwilling or unable to support themselves and contribute to the general welfare and it unlikely to be able to do so in the future. We should be spending resources on people who can add value. Christian morality, as important as it is and even as much as I support it, should not be part of government programs. If a program is objectively useful, then keep it.
At least justify social programs objectively, not morally.
The United States has the most progressive tax system in the world.
Ummmmm
Countries With the Highest Income Tax Rates (CNBC)
Countries With the Highest Income Tax Rates
1. Aruba
Highest income tax rate: 58.95%
2. Sweden
Highest income tax rate: 56.6%
Average 2010 income: $48,800
3. Denmark
Highest income tax rate: 55.4%
Average 2010 income: $64,000
4. Netherlands
Highest income tax rate: 52%
Average 2010 income: $57,000
5. (Tied) Austria
Highest income tax rate: 50%
Average 2010 income: $50,700
5. (Tied) Belgium
Highest income tax rate: 50%
5. (Tied) Japan
Highest income tax rate: 50%
Average 2010 income: $53,200
Average 2010 income: $52,700
5. (Tied) United Kingdom
Highest income tax rate: 50%
Average 2010 income: $52,320
9. Finland
Highest income tax rate: 49.2%
Average 2010 income: $49,000
10. Ireland
Highest income tax rate: 48%
Average 2010 income: $50,400
:lamo
KMPG and CNBC vs OECD? You're kidding, right?
What a STUPID objection.
As if KPMG and CNBC are either inaccurate or Biased against High-incomers.
No doubt either of both use OECD numbers in any case.
It's no wonder your better off with your commentLESS OPs.
It's unwieldly not to use the same number for everyone.
100K is s good as any.
What a STUPID objection.
As if KPMG and CNBC are either inaccurate or Biased against High-incomers.
No doubt either or both use OECD numbers in any case.
It's no wonder you're better off with your commentLESS OPs.
Another Alzheimers post.
It's unwieldly not to use the same number for everyone.
100K is as good as any.
What number would you like?
Why don't YOU put more than 5 secs into your posts and GO find it. Go find anything that makes Your case in fact.
Why is that "Advertsing Copy"?mbig said:What a STUPID objection.
As if KPMG and CNBC are either inaccurate or Biased against High-incomers.
No doubt either of both use OECD numbers in any case.
It's no wonder your better off with your commentLESS OPs.
:lamo
Financial advisors putting out advertising copy? And the business reporting arm of the lefty network? Up against data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development? Really without credibility.:lamo
Why is that "Advertsing Copy"?
WTF/DUH.
KPMG are business consultants and accountants.
CNBC Is PRO-Business all day, every day.
ALL of us who invest for a living watch it all day. It's on in most Trading rooms in the country.
After hours one gets MSNBC which is very liberal.
Another Inane/OBTUSE piece of Clownery from Duh-Jack-in-the-box.
Why is that "Advertsing Copy"?mbig said:What a STUPID objection.
As if KPMG and CNBC are either inaccurate or Biased against High-incomers.
No doubt either of both use OECD numbers in any case.
It's no wonder your better off with your commentLESS OPs.
:lamo
b]Financial advisors putting out advertising copy? And the business reporting arm of the lefty network? Up against data from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development? Really without credibility.:lamo
Just one for edit. May have repeated instead. Having some Computer issues.How many posts has Mbig deleted? I quoted one in my post 510, he repeated it a minute ago and then both are gone
And in how many posts has Turtle Dude Lazily said NOTHING except "you're socialist parasite/we pay for you"?
I would say at least one.
His question was not legitimate on this thread. his claims about the tax rates were dishonest in the sense that the SS payments are not a progressive tax and shouldn't be counted in the FIT
That's false Turtle, I don't care how rich someone is, I Just want them to pay taxes.these threads about taxes invariably decompensate into comments from those who aren't as rich as they think they ought to be whining about those who they think should not be as rich as they are.
The Social Security Tax is part of the Federal income tax.
The Federal income tax is made up of five parts
Part 1: Social Security Employer portion
Part 2: Social Security Employee portion
Part 3: Medicare Employer portion
Part 4: Medicare Employee portion
Part 5: Federal Income tax
One check is written for all five of these and sent to the exact same place.
:beatdeadhorse
Some people understand this. Some people do not.
Why is that "Advertsing Copy"?
WTF/DUH.
KPMG are business consultants and accountants.
Their clients are rich and richER.
CNBC Is PRO-Business all day, every day.
ALL of us who invest for a living watch it all day.
It's the ESPN-of-Wall-St/Investors.
It's on in most Trading rooms in the country.
Another Inane/OBTUSE piece of Clownery from Duh-Jack-in-the-box.
Nonconversant and wrong on everything.
That's false Turtle, I don't care how rich someone is, I Just want them to pay taxes.
when the SS "tax" was passed by congress what was it called
TurtleDude said:and what was it billed as.
It was called a trust fund.
I honestly can't say. I never did payroll in 1935. That was 44 years before I was born.
I wrote checks for payroll in 2007, 2008 and 2009. It was just as I described it. I didn't write a separate check to the Social Security Trust Fund. You will have to find somebody older than me to answer your second question.
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