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Compliments count.....Right? :mrgreen:
both of them :lol:
Compliments count.....Right? :mrgreen:
Tennis is a very old sport, so I imagine it's because, forever ago, women were discouraged from playing anything on an equal level as men - with the same effort, stamina, zeal. It's all just leftovers from a bygone era.
Tennis is a very old sport, so I imagine it's because, forever ago, women were discouraged from playing anything on an equal level as men - with the same effort, stamina, zeal. It's all just leftovers from a bygone era and I'm surprised the women tolerate it.
In MMA the matches fluctuate depending on whether you're fighting for a championship or not, are new, headlining, etc. Pay? That relies on the individual. I just assumed that tennis and many other sports were the same.
except now the Women get paid the same as the men but play for less time. It's like getting the paid the same as a co-worker but they get to leave at 3pm everyday.
Just for the record.....I think the Women put on a better show. Moreover I would rather watch women play tennis than guys.
for several years the top women would come to cincinnati before the top men and most of us really enjoyed the women's matches
Now that they play together, most of the fans I talk to-men and women-say the women's play is less interesting since its so slow compared to the men's game. I note that Sloan Stevens had four match points on Sharapova and double faulted on three of them. I have never seen a top 20 man double fault three times on match point. Maria Sharapova-the year she got Bounced by Melanie Oudin in one of the US Open's biggest shockers-double faulted more times in that Match than the four men's semifinalists did during the ENTIRE TOURNAMENT.
now there are several reasons for this. One is that the second serve is perhaps the easiest shot for good women to attack. the reason is -a safe but effective second serve requires a great deal of spin to both clear the net safely and cause problems for the returner. Most male players have the upper body strength to generate that spin. Many women cannot so they either run the risk of the returner crushing a weak second serve or double faulting as they try to keep the second serve deep.
That is why a poll I say stated that almost every man on the pro tour would -if given the choice-get to serve on match point rather than return while other than Serena, Venus and Sam Stosur, almost every top woman preferred to return.
I'm telling you, it's got to be the moaning. :rofl
as the old groaners retire there will be less-there are gag orders being imposed on the younger players
its totally unnecessary too_ i have watched the tennisgasms practice (shriekapova, Azaranter, etc) and tey don't sound like they are being banged by a Kentucky Derby winner when they are practicing.
for several years the top women would come to cincinnati before the top men and most of us really enjoyed the women's matches
Now that they play together, most of the fans I talk to-men and women-say the women's play is less interesting since its so slow compared to the men's game. I note that Sloan Stevens had four match points on Sharapova and double faulted on three of them. I have never seen a top 20 man double fault three times on match point. Maria Sharapova-the year she got Bounced by Melanie Oudin in one of the US Open's biggest shockers-double faulted more times in that Match than the four men's semifinalists did during the ENTIRE TOURNAMENT.
now there are several reasons for this. One is that the second serve is perhaps the easiest shot for good women to attack. the reason is -a safe but effective second serve requires a great deal of spin to both clear the net safely and cause problems for the returner. Most male players have the upper body strength to generate that spin. Many women cannot so they either run the risk of the returner crushing a weak second serve or double faulting as they try to keep the second serve deep.
That is why a poll I say stated that almost every man on the pro tour would -if given the choice-get to serve on match point rather than return while other than Serena, Venus and Sam Stosur, almost every top woman preferred to return.
The US Open pays the same amount to men and women even though the men play best of five sets, while the women only play best of three. The pro equality argument is based on general views that men and women should be treated equally and the feeling that the top women draw as many fans as the top men. The counter argument is that the men's field is far deeper (Serena Williams beat her semi final opponent 6-0, 6-3 while the #1 male seed won an almost four hour slugfest with a lower ranked semi final foe) and the quality of play is far far higher (not just in terms of speed and power but there are less chokes and double faults at for the men)
men watch these games to see female players
women deserve to be paid more:lol:
Not since Anna Kournikova. Very few women tennis players are attractive. Maybe Sharapova on mute, Anna Ivanovic, but few others.
ivanovic is the real beauty
I have met her several times and talked to her-she's even prettier in person and a truly nice lady. I wish she could keep her ball toss consistent-she still has one of the best forehands in women's tennis and when her toss is on-one of the best serves
some of the other truly pretty lady players
Caroline Wozniaki
Yaroslave Shvedova
Mandy Minella
Sammy Stosur
Eugenie Bouchard
Laura Robson
Maria Kirlenko
Andrea Petkovic
Julia Goerges
The US Open pays the same amount to men and women even though the men play best of five sets, while the women only play best of three. The pro equality argument is based on general views that men and women should be treated equally and the feeling that the top women draw as many fans as the top men. The counter argument is that the men's field is far deeper (Serena Williams beat her semi final opponent 6-0, 6-3 while the #1 male seed won an almost four hour slugfest with a lower ranked semi final foe) and the quality of play is far far higher (not just in terms of speed and power but there are less chokes and double faults at for the men)
l already know wozniaki and find her nice but had to google the others
l can say eugeni and julia are really pretty
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Maybe they just need to dress better when they play. I dont understand these fake skirts and tank tops. They would look better with shorts
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They also need to step their game up, change the play style to something faster, more baseline. Thats whats popular.
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Maybe they just need to dress better when they play. I dont understand these fake skirts and tank tops. They would look better with shorts
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They also need to step their game up, change the play style to something faster, more baseline. Thats whats popular.
they should wear the things which make them feel comfortable l think
I'd have to see the rankings of matches between the top of both. If Serena was playing Vicki Azarenka and attracting as many eyes as a Nadal/Djokovic final, then sure - pay them the same.
Also, anyone who thinks that Serena could hang with even an average male player is worth laughing at. She played against Karsteen Braach (who wasn't even ranked in the men's top 200 at the time) and lost 6-1. Venus lost 6-2. This is on top of hybrid rules and him boasting (not sure if it's legit or not) that he didn't give it 100%.