skg said:why should we take mercy on criminals who don't care about other people lives and rights?
should the community have to suffer because of those who desecrate ( good people ) human rights.
here an example
if a village or a city had a plague. the smartest solution is to contain the city ( to protect other cities ) even if there are many inhabitants who still not affected by the plague.
Unfair said:I don't agree. You didn't convey your thoughts in a clear and understandable way. I'm confused
DETERRENCE: U.S. Murder Rate Declined in 2004, Even As Death Penalty Use Dropped
Even as the use of the death penalty continued to decline in the United States, the number of murders and the national murder rate dropped in 2004. According to the recently released FBI Uniform Crime Report for 2004, the nation's murder rate fell by 3.3%, declining to 5.5 murders per 100,000 people in 2004. By region, the Northeast, which accounts for less than 1% of all U.S. executions, continued to have the nation's lowest murder rate, 4.2. The Midwest had a murder rate of 4.7, and the murder rate in the West was 5.7. The South, which has carried out more than 80% of all U.S. executions, again had the nation's highest murder rate, 6.6. (FBI Uniform Crime Report 2004, released October 2005). In 2004, the number of executions, the number of death sentences, and the size of death row all declined compared to 2003. See Deterrence and Executions.
Murders in New York City Reach Historic Lows Without Use of the Death Penalty
Homicide figures for New York City show that the number of murders in 2005 may fall below 500, a figure that would be the fewest since 1961 and would bring the city's murder rate below the rate for the nation as a whole. So far this year, random murders and murders committed during robberies and burglaries have also declined. Experts note that both declines appear to be largely attributable to a greater police presence, fewer guns, and the decrease in random violence in the city that came with the waning of the crack epidemic. In Manhattan, the annual number of murders recently dipped below 100 for the first time since the 19th century. (New York Times, August 7, 2005). New York City's steady murder-rate decline began after 1990, five years before the state restored the death penalty. The decline in murders has continued since the law was struck down as unconstitutional in 2004. See Deterrence.
As I understand it he was using plague as an analogyEnola/Alone said:Seconded. What are you actually saying, skg?
JamesRichards said:Same thing as the cancer analogy. If the nation is an organism, then crime is a cancer infecting it. So you treat it and if that fails you cut out the diseased area.
It doesn't, well known not to. But it satisfies a desire for punishment fitting the crime in serious and violent cases, and encourages people that the law treats criminals with the same contempt as they treat their victims. You're right it's expensive, though it could be made more cost-effective, but the satisfaction it gives the broader society in justice being done is worth the cost.Enola/Alone said:I can completetely understand you guys wanting to cut the murder rates, but I'm not sure the DP does this:
Where do you live? Crime rates are falling everywhere, murder rates are falling everywhere. However news coverage has increased dramatically giving people the perception that crime and violent crime are on the rise.skg said:but what i see in my real life ( that the number of crimes has been growing as the death penalty and cruel sentence are almost not applied).
also i met with someone work in prison, he said to me that prisoners got every attention that the free man out side can't get that easily. they got variety of food, drinks, new furniture which the people who work in presion can't get.
shouldn't the prison be more cruel or even a place that someone don't want to come back to.
millsy said:However news coverage has increased dramatically giving people the perception that crime and violent crime are on the rise.
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