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Do God and the Bible approve of abortion?

So in the event that a UFC fighter performs an abortion in the middle of a match, he must pay whatever fine the woman's husband demands, within the scope of what the court will allow. That isn't exactly a broad condemnation of the practice.
Women fight in UFC pregnant? Can you make less disgusting examples? To think of a woman, indecently dressed, taking part in useless violence and endangering the life of a child at the same time. Makes me think of secular "modern" countries..
 
I am eager to learn about how the 10 Commandments are 'man's law.'

"When the Lord finished speaking to Moses on Mount Sinai, he gave him the two tablets of the covenant law, the tablets of stone inscribed by the finger of God." -Exodus 31:18

Does anyone else have a feeling of déjà vu?
Yeah. When Moses in the Bible breaks them and needs to go get new ones.
 
Um, so some killing is okay then? How do you know that God isn't permitting abortion? After all it is not specifically forbidden in the bible? I am quite sure that they did practice abortion in those times..in fact, I know they did, but it was done differently
They practiced a lot of things and that has zero to do with the topic. God made women so that the majority of them, if they are pregnant and you say, "do this and the baby will die," their reaction would be that of horror, because it is unnatural and goes against a woman's instincts.
 
Women fight in UFC pregnant? Can you make less disgusting examples? To think of a woman, indecently dressed, taking part in useless violence and endangering the life of a child at the same time. Makes me think of secular "modern" countries..

No no, the passage clearly states that the abortion would be performed in the course of two men fighting. The pregnant woman would have to be in the ring with them.
 
And the law is from the Bible. What does the bible say about murder specifically?

It is Commanded against by either the 5th or 6th Commandment, depending on which church you attend. And it applies to the killing of those who have received the Breath of Life, and thereby became ensouled.
 
No no, the passage clearly states that the abortion would be performed in the course of two men fighting. The pregnant woman would have to be in the ring with them.
I don't fit everything I say into Bible passages. I recommend you read a little less of it too. All that violence and pornography in the Bible violates your mind.
 
The thread has been hijacked by the religionists arguing among themselves about who is right about God’s intentions. Let us know when you get this all sorted out, okay. *L*
 
The thread has been hijacked by the religionists arguing among themselves about who is right about God’s intentions. Let us know when you get this all sorted out, okay. *L*
Get over yourself...
 
The thread has been hijacked by the religionists arguing among themselves about who is right about God’s intentions. Let us know when you get this all sorted out, okay. *L*

"Oh no! My thread about whether Wolverine could beat Cyclops in a fight has been hijacked by a bunch of comic book nerds arguing over how mutant powers function!"
 
Pretty much.

"Oh no! My thread about how Lord of the Rings was pointless because the Eagles could have just dropped the One Ring into Mt. Doom has been highjacked by a bunch of literate nerds arguing over whether the All-Seeing Eye of Sauron would have spotted the Sindarin Thoron before they ever reached Mordor!"
 
Is it? How is it selfish if you know that the child will starve? How is it selfish if the mother is 11 and the father is the 11 year old's uncle? How is it selfish if the mother is going to die during the pregnancy killing also the unborn and leaving the other children orphans? What is more selfish? Leaving 4 children without a mother? Making an 11 year old give birth to her uncle's child and then raise it, instead of going to school and playing with dolls? When the 11 year old dies in child birth why is her life less than the one that is not yet living and no, it is not living until it reaches viability, because if it is born at 10 weeks or 9 weeks or even 12 weeks or at 20 weeks the fetus will die.

and a fine for an abortion compared to the death penalty for the mother dying clearly defines the mother's life superior to that of the unborn.

Clara, are you aware of how very low the fractional number is of elective abortions performed because of incest or rape? Why use such an atypical example?
 
First read through Numbers chapter 5: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 5&version=NIV

Now take a look at verse 27: “If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.”

Knowing that the writers of the Bible knew little about science and thus expressed themselves in layman terms, it quickly becomes quite apparent that the “bitter water” is an abortifacient clearly meant to have her “miscarry”. Note that it was given by the “holy men” (direct agents of God) to women who were accused of being unfaithful to their husbands, and so the intention was to abort the “bastard” child. Also note that all this was done at the direction of “the Lord”, which is how God was referred to in the Old Testament.

And thus it seems that the answer to my question is yes.

That is a new perspective to look at things!
Thanx for the Info!
 
The thread has been hijacked by the religionists arguing among themselves about who is right about God’s intentions. Let us know when you get this all sorted out, okay. *L*

Are the hijackers still there? :cool:
 
The thread has been hijacked by the religionists arguing among themselves about who is right about God’s intentions. Let us know when you get this all sorted out, okay. *L*
'God made women'. What a primitive belief, with an emphasis on belief. Why do believers state these things as if they were proven facts?
 
Wait--- STOP!!!

Here you are attempting to rewrite the laws of the Israelites given to Moses.... and then follow up with a snippet of a quote by Jesus Christ from the new testament. People who generally quote the "without sin cast the first stone" miss the entire context of that passage. It was situation where the Pharisees (vile hypocrites and sinners) were attempting to trick Jesus and find something to arrest him for--- but he didn't take the bait. That verse never meant the woman wasn't guilty of a sin, or that she could not be punished. It was about exposing the Pharisees for using the law for other than it's intent and their own malicious reasons.

It should be noted that after her accusers left, Jesus told her he didn't condemn her, but TO GO AND SIN NO MORE. He told her she was as sinner, and she needed to change her life. He never excused her sin, he only showed mercy to her, because at this point in his mission he was not on earth to judge the world... not yet. What Jesus knew was that the woman's accusers were vile sinners, so what right did they have to judge anyone? When he convinced them of that they left. Then when he turned to the woman and showed her mercy he also knew HE would soon die for her sin for her, all she needed to do was repent and believe. Jesus said he didn't come to destroy the Jewish law, he came to fulfill the law.

If you are going to attempt to use these verses to make points, at least take the time to study the context.

Nicely done.
 
mine has ZERO to do with politics..and everything to do with what the bible actually says...I can't help it that you think Trump is a man of God...when clearly he is not.

Annnnd...drink!
 
If the brain is functioning, if the heart is pumping, it is living...
Then I suggest that if you believe that then you shouldn't have an abortion but my religious beliefs are different than yours and you cannot force me to live my life by your religious mythology because I have the constitutional right to live and believe as I wish, especially when our views are different from the majority.

• God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).

For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).

• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).

The bible declares that God breathed life into man's body (Genesis 2:7). At least a dozen more verses indicate that breath is synonymous with life. This scriptural truth completely contradicts the personhood dogma.
 
Then I suggest that if you believe that then you shouldn't have an abortion but my religious beliefs are different than yours and you cannot force me to live my life by your religious mythology because I have the constitutional right to live and believe as I wish, especially when our views are different from the majority.

So it is - so it is! (y) (y)
 
For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).

Terrible!

Oh, what a "loving God!" :(:(:(
 
I don't think Jesus is pro abortion.

However, he's a lot more understanding than you or I.
 
Then I suggest that if you believe that then you shouldn't have an abortion but my religious beliefs are different than yours and you cannot force me to live my life by your religious mythology because I have the constitutional right to live and believe as I wish, especially when our views are different from the majority.
If there is blood, there is the soul/life...

"because the creature’s soul is in the blood and I have given it to you on the altar to purge your souls, because the blood purges by the soul." Leviticus 17:11
 
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