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That also applies to this thread http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/201221-could-you-romantic-relationship-someone.htmlI agree. Both sides want much of the same thing but disagree on how to go about it. Both want fairness. Both want everyone to do well. But the devil lies in the details of how to accomplish that.
Not “partisan BS” at all, but basic ethics.
Charity consists only of giving what is rightfully yours to give. Taking from others what is not yours is just theft, no matter how noble you think your purpose is for what you are taking.
There is no charity in being generous with other people's resources; only with your own.
Did you forget the topic of the thread?That's fine, but I am not interested in charity, but solving issues.
Did you forget the topic of the thread?
A complete inability to relate to those who are less fortunate.
I find it rather interesting that neither the title, the poll question, not the OP really match up. Interesting too that the title assumes that libertarians are the same as conservatives.
Actually the two are equal as the motivation is what matters. In both cases, people are seeking to help those in need. Pretending charity matters more is just partisan BS.
The reason the ingroup thing matters is that helping the ingroup versus just worrying about needs is a way to reinforce the culture of the ingroup making it an evolutionary survival strategy instead of an altruistic act. It has a lot of selfishness attached to it.
Not “partisan BS” at all, but basic ethics.
Charity consists only of giving what is rightfully yours to give. Taking from others what is not yours is just theft, no matter how noble you think your purpose is for what you are taking.
There is no charity in being generous with other people's resources; only with your own.
OooookayWrong again. How one feels, ie empathy, can only be objectively measured by acts of charity. Otherwise it's just hormonal emoting that helps no one. Putting your hands to the plow and working for another's benefit is an objective measure.
Applying the word empathy to a group is an improper use of the word. Empathy is understanding the feelings of another. Because feelings are unique to each individual, to empathize with a group is to de-individualize and in effect dehumanize. Bad move.
In what way is it assuming anything? Its asking do those are the far right, conservative / libertarians lack empathy? Not sure how that is confusing.
The poll question and the title question are the same thing as well.. both ask if those on the far right lack empathy.. If you take the literal dictionary definition of empathy, I can see how the OP might not fit if you were so much of a literal human being that you couldn't see what I was getting at. It shouldn't be too hard, I'm simply asking if the attitudes of far right individuals shows any patterns of lacking empathy. Especially in the media.
A complete inability to relate to those who are less fortunate.
a complete inability to relate to those who are less fortunate.
.... A better world is not achievable at the point of a gun.
A complete inability to relate to those who are less fortunate.
Both ideologies are deeply misanthropic. The most misanthropic of all, I've found, is Rand's Objectivism. Her followers are bloody nuts to put it bluntly. They'd be absolutely fine if the world crumbled around them while they are soaked in egotism.
That's fine, but I am not interested in charity, but solving issues.
No. Many of us who lean toward the right, with regard to fiscal matters, used to be in their shoes. We know that it is a condition which one can overcome. I don't cut anyone any slack who has the ability to succeed, but has a ****ty attitude.
That is one of the common flaws in conservative thinking: "I made it out of poverty, everyone else can also." It is wrong because statistically, most people do not make it out of poverty, especially outside the USA.
Making it out of poverty generally requires intelligence, ability to focus and do work, a supportive family or mentor and opportunity.
Not everyone is intelligent and many poor people are impaired by toxins and/or mental illness. (being very poor makes many people crazy, often for generations) The stress and instability often associated with poverty can interfere with developing or applying intelligence.
The ability to focus and do work is a skill that needs to be acquired (and may also be a genetic trait to some degree). In more successful families the ability to focus and do work is usually modeled and taught by parents without much conscious thought. That does not happen in many poor families, especially if they are struggling with substance abuse and mental illness.
Almost every person who has risen out of poverty had a supportive family member or mentor that helps teach good work habits and knows how, where and when to make an effort to get results.
Opportunities also matter. A young person given a legit part-time job or told about an internship or scholarship is more likely to be successful than one who is not given an opportunity or such guidance. There are only so many jobs and scholarships, so there is an element of luck involved.
With enough time, money and effort these elements for success could be provided by K-12 schools, but currently they are not, especially in the public schools serving the poor. If we want to really solve some of our society's problems we should work on putting less resources into the military, prisons, justice system, police etc and invest it in giving every young person the best education, guidance and opportunity. Unfortunately, too many people think that they benefit from the current system of class oppression for it to happen anytime soon. (ie.prison guards) Instead profiteers are exploiting the good intentions of ignorant people to sell them their school and prison privatization schemes as a solution.
That is NOT how Conservatives think.
Thats how Liberals want everyone to believe. That Conservatives are selfish, ego centric disconnected individuals.
Our principles are being redefined by our opponents and then passed off as a objective analysis of Conservative core principles.
Unfortunately, as proven by the last two Presidential elections there are far too many intellectually lazy Americans who are ripe for this kind of partisan motivated misinterpretation.
The Liberals agenda is more about creating victims by spreading narratives that are meant to divide based on envy of all things.
The more emotionally poisoned the American populace is the better off the Democrats are in terms of winning elections and staying in power.
The problem for the Millions of America's who are gullible enough to buy into this toxic manipulation is things don't get better for them under Democrat rule.
Things don't become more " equitable, fairer ".
No, because any real improvement would threaten the lefts original agenda of creating as many victims as possible.
Any real movement towards equality would remove the dependency that the Democrat party needs to stay viable.
Its the basis of this STUPID Op.
Divide, set up a narrative based on misrepresentations NOT to improve the situation but to perpetuate toxic false narratives that are all centered around envy.
Thats how screwed up the left is.
They're more than willing to use one of the most destructive Human emotions to further their cause and the more pain, the more discontent there is the happier they are
That is NOT how Conservatives think.
Thats how Liberals want everyone to believe. That Conservatives are selfish, ego centric disconnected individuals.
I would suggest that SOME "liberals" and "conservatives think like this.See I can do it too..
That is NOT how Liberals think.
That is how conservatives want everyone to believe.
... you're right.. the left is horrible the right is so righteous..
See I can do it too..
That is NOT how Liberals think.
That is how conservatives want everyone to believe.
... you're right.. the left is horrible the right is so righteous..
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