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Discussion: Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.....

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This is an Open discussion concerning these Two People. They are classified as Civil Rights Leaders. Should they be? Why should they be Civil Rights leaders? Is it because they are a minority and that they were at one point in their lives involved with a movement that was bigger than themselves?

What basis is there that they be defined as a Leader?

Why are they given a voice with the media? Can this be changed?

Should these two guys be addressed as a problem in the country? Should they be allowed to stir up Racial tensions in a Country that is divided by Red White and Blue? But more between Red and Blue.

Should both be told to stay out of others peoples Business and to worry about their own Communities they live in? For what reason should they allowed to be brought upon the political stage?
 
This is an Open discussion concerning these Two People. They are classified as Civil Rights Leaders. Should they be? Why should they be Civil Rights leaders? Is it because they are a minority and that they were at one point in their lives involved with a movement that was bigger than themselves?

What basis is there that they be defined as a Leader?

Why are they given a voice with the media? Can this be changed?

Should these two guys be addressed as a problem in the country? Should they be allowed to stir up Racial tensions in a Country that is divided by Red White and Blue? But more between Red and Blue.

Should both be told to stay out of others peoples Business and to worry about their own Communities they live in? For what reason should they allowed to be brought upon the political stage?
MMC, they're a couple of con artists. They both need an industrial degreaser.
 
I dont like them either, I think they keep race alive for job security. But about 90% of what I hear about them is on conservative forums.
 
MMC, they're a couple of con artists. They both need an industrial degreaser.

Heya HB :2wave: .....yeah I know. But is there a way they can be kept out of the media and from stirring tensions up in this Country. Shouldn't people make it a point to tell the media to keep them out?

Shouldn't they be questioned about their so called alleged leadership.

Both use their religious title and try to integrate it with Civil Rights and Politics. Are they not pushing their Christian ideology upon others when they attempt to go political and in other states than their own?
 
I dont like them either, I think they keep race alive for job security. But about 90% of what I hear about them is on conservative forums.

Yeah.....I am sure you would hear it more from the Right, unless you lived in one of their neighborhoods. But I think you can see them for what they are. Shouldn't the Democrats be making sure these guys stay out of the Political scenes. Considering they are not elected to any office?
 
They are carnival barkers.

Heya SL. :2wave: Well with this crap over the Zimmermann case.....Jackson has proved that he is willing to push such an issue beyond our own governments. Taking **** to the UN HRC. What does that say to the American people. That he is being a Patriot?

Both want to go after States with Stand your Ground Gun laws. All to keep that issue going over guns. So why let them even attempt to play with Civil Rights?

Sure we can call these guys names. But that doesn't bother them to much as they continue on doing what they do. No one is engaging Jackson and Sharpton. They are just letting them talk. Isnt time for SOMEONE to step into the Picture and while they are in front of the Camera and say enough is enough. Hey Jackson or Sharpton. STFU! Right there in front of the cameras. Right there not letting them get to speak anymore. Shutting them down.
 
"What basis is there that they be defined as a Leader?"

'cause Kwame Kilpatrick and Marion Barry were predisposed?
 
Both want to go after States with Stand your Ground Gun laws. All to keep that issue going over guns. So why let them even attempt to play with Civil Rights?


I don't think what they're doing has anything to do with guns. It is their pathetic attempt to stay relevant in a world that just needs them to grow old and die.
 
Heya HB :2wave: .....yeah I know. But is there a way they can be kept out of the media and from stirring tensions up in this Country. Shouldn't people make it a point to tell the media to keep them out?

Shouldn't they be questioned about their so called alleged leadership.

Both use their religious title and try to integrate it with Civil Rights and Politics. Are they not pushing their Christian ideology upon others when they attempt to go political and in other states than their own?
The only way to keep these two scum buckets out of the media spotlight is to completely discredit them. They are enabled by the media intentionally, and they seeks causes and events that can ensure a high profile. They offer the black community nothing. They prey on it. They were trailing along with MLK in the hope that they could cash in to start with. If one were to compare Jackson to a white counterpart, Jimmy Swaggart comes to mind. Both Jackson and Sharpton, as well as Holder and Obama, purport to know what other people think and feel. They "know" racism was the motivating factor in the Zimmerman/Martin fiasco. What's worse, they claim this exclusive knowledge because they are black. This is not leadership. It does nothing to improve the lot of blacks in this country. It's an appeal to emotional victimhood over events few alive ever had a hand in. They are no longer at the back of the bus. Hell, they're driving it. Either use the position they occupy for something good to lift up the black community, or sit down and STFU. We're out of time and money for posturing. Why aren't they in Detroit? Easy. There's no money there.
 
"What basis is there that they be defined as a Leader?"

'cause Kwame Kilpatrick and Marion Barry were predisposed?

Heya WCH :2wave: .....Exactly as neither fit the definition. Shouldn't we be the people.....be telling them Face First. You are not a leader. Nor will you ever be one. Get that thru your thick heads.

Neither of you two don't even have a Church with your own followers. Moreover.....quit getting involved in Politics. Separation of Church and state, remember!
 
I don't think what they're doing has anything to do with guns. It is their pathetic attempt to stay relevant in a world that just needs them to grow old and die.

Hiya Maggie
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.....U know about Jackson moreso than most living around here. What has he ever done for Chicago? Shouldn't he be taking care of his Grandchildren since both his son and daughter in law are going to go to jail?

Basically for getting caught for what Jesse himself was doing but was never caught for.

Did you hear him this weekend. Boycott Florida. Stop Concerts, Stop Entertainment, Stop this, stop that. Stand your Ground against Florida.

Shouldn't someone be out there talking to the media and mentioning that Jesse needs a psychological evaluation? Start talking about his mental state of health. That will shut Jesse up and drive him out to pasture. Wont want investigations into his affairs and over his mental state of being.

I even mentioned to the Radio jocks as to why they are giving these guys a free pass. Start talking **** about them. Then take the calls from the American people. When all start hearing how some other blacks and minorities can tell them just how these guys are. Then what can any say?
 
The only way to keep these two scum buckets out of the media spotlight is to completely discredit them. They are enabled by the media intentionally, and they seeks causes and events that can ensure a high profile. They offer the black community nothing. They prey on it. They were trailing along with MLK in the hope that they could cash in to start with. If one were to compare Jackson to a white counterpart, Jimmy Swaggart comes to mind. Both Jackson and Sharpton, as well as Holder and Obama, purport to know what other people think and feel. They "know" racism was the motivating factor in the Zimmerman/Martin fiasco. What's worse, they claim this exclusive knowledge because they are black. This is not leadership. It does nothing to improve the lot of blacks in this country. It's an appeal to emotional victimhood over events few alive ever had a hand in. They are no longer at the back of the bus. Hell, they're driving it. Either use the position they occupy for something good to lift up the black community, or sit down and STFU. We're out of time and money for posturing. Why aren't they in Detroit? Easy. There's no money there.

I know and they are out there speaking as if they know all the facts. Even the Gov of Florida said the only ones that know all the facts of the case are the Judge and the Jurors. Nobody else.

Plus with these two clowns out doing what they are doing. Now look at all the Democratic Politicians that have come out to open their big mouths over something they have no clue about. Other than what they have seen on TV. Plus the MS media is the one that is pushing the agenda and in connection with the Gun Control issues. Hence them bringing up about the Aurora Colorado Shooting again.

Here Jesse holds a rally in Chicago.....yet do you see this Putz. Going out and walking around to try and stop any of the Killings and Shootings here this weekend?

Now both he and Sharptones are playing that Conservative vs Liberal ideology, Red vs Blue, while they make their lil play. People need to get out and let it be known these guys aren't allowed to come round and stir up[ racial tensions.

How about we get them to look at what they are hypocrits about. Such as that Black on black crime. Blacks make up 13% of the US population. Yet are responsible for over 50% of the Murders in and around the Country. Out of all that 93% of those killed were killed by other blacks. The minority that is out killing the most. This is what Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Most of those Democrats in the Balck Caucuses don't want to talk about.

Wherein they get shown not only for their lacking intelligence. But proving them to be outright liars about what they Preach.
 
Both figues have been washed up for decades now. Sharpton is hanging on throgh MSNBC wherehis nickname is "Token". As a previous post here has stated they are carnival barkers. They have no content so they make up little two sentence rhymes and try to get the crowd however small to chant them like they did in the 60's. Jackson's boy is headed for prison because unlike his daddy, he got caught. Contempory blacks permit them to talk knowing that no one is listening. One of the funniest if not embarrassing things, is to listen to Sharpton speak when he tries to sound intelligent.
 
I know and they are out there speaking as if they know all the facts. Even the Gov of Florida said the only ones that know all the facts of the case are the Judge and the Jurors. Nobody else.

Plus with these two clowns out doing what they are doing. Now look at all the Democratic Politicians that have come out to open their big mouths over something they have no clue about. Other than what they have seen on TV. Plus the MS media is the one that is pushing the agenda and in connection with the Gun Control issues. Hence them bringing up about the Aurora Colorado Shooting again.

Here Jesse holds a rally in Chicago.....yet do you see this Putz. Going out and walking around to try and stop any of the Killings and Shootings here this weekend?

Now both he and Sharptones are playing that Conservative vs Liberal ideology, Red vs Blue, while they make their lil play. People need to get out and let it be known these guys aren't allowed to come round and stir up[ racial tensions.

How about we get them to look at what they are hypocrits about. Such as that Black on black crime. Blacks make up 13% of the US population. Yet are responsible for over 50% of the Murders in and around the Country. Out of all that 93% of those killed were killed by other blacks. The minority that is out killing the most. This is what Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Most of those Democrats in the Balck Caucuses don't want to talk about.

Wherein they get shown not only for their lacking intelligence. But proving them to be outright liars about what they Preach.
None of these guys use their position to talk to young black males. Now, I know black males that are Men. They work, they take care of their family, they don't blame others for their failures, and they instill positive values in their children. These guys promote none of that except in off-hand references that are rare. Young black men in the inner cities have not assumed their rightful role as family leaders and providers, and the social system we have in place does not foster that behavior. These "leaders" are the ones enabling that delinquent behavior, so their words mean nothing. The only way to get over the past is to focus on a better future. Dwelling on victimhood never cuts it. Hell, we're all victims of something.
 
The only way to keep these two scum buckets out of the media spotlight is to completely discredit them. They are enabled by the media intentionally, and they seeks causes and events that can ensure a high profile. They offer the black community nothing. They prey on it. They were trailing along with MLK in the hope that they could cash in to start with. If one were to compare Jackson to a white counterpart, Jimmy Swaggart comes to mind. Both Jackson and Sharpton, as well as Holder and Obama, purport to know what other people think and feel. They "know" racism was the motivating factor in the Zimmerman/Martin fiasco. What's worse, they claim this exclusive knowledge because they are black. This is not leadership. It does nothing to improve the lot of blacks in this country. It's an appeal to emotional victimhood over events few alive ever had a hand in. They are no longer at the back of the bus. Hell, they're driving it. Either use the position they occupy for something good to lift up the black community, or sit down and STFU. We're out of time and money for posturing. Why aren't they in Detroit? Easy. There's no money there.

One of the best, most accurate posts ever! Way to nail it!
 
Both figues have been washed up for decades now. Sharpton is hanging on throgh MSNBC wherehis nickname is "Token". As a previous post here has stated they are carnival barkers. They have no content so they make up little two sentence rhymes and try to get the crowd however small to chant them like they did in the 60's. Jackson's boy is headed for prison because unlike his daddy, he got caught. Contempory blacks permit them to talk knowing that no one is listening. One of the funniest if not embarrassing things, is to listen to Sharpton speak when he tries to sound intelligent.

Heya RF. :2wave: Yeah, Jesse has always had the good luck. Never got popped for anything he was doing. Then found Jesus when his ass was dealing with the bangers. Use to joke around about how he almost got Fort to switch to Christianity from Islam.

Then like Sharptones.....jumped on the MLK bandwagon, talking about how they were around the man. Yet never part of MLK's inner circle. Course most don't remember that and those that do. Don't say to much about it.
 
Whenever I hear Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton speak, my IQ drops 10 points. So I never really started listening to them. It also explains why people who follow them on a regular basis can't think properly and get swayed by anyone who can put 2 words together that somewhat makes sense.
 
Whenever I hear Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton speak, my IQ drops 10 points. So I never really started listening to them. It also explains why people who follow them on a regular basis can't think properly and get swayed by anyone who can put 2 words together that somewhat makes sense.

Heya RM. :2wave: Well lets not forget Jesse's answer for Chicago. He wanted Emanuel to call out the National Guard. Now because he said something Congressman Boobie Rush had to come out.....then says the same. Which was even after the new task force involving LE's both State and Fed was set up to go after bangers with the Ricos

The Other thing they are doing is getting other Reverends, Ministers, and Pastors all involved up into Politics.
 
Jesse Jackson Provides One More Reason to Get Us out of the UN.....

We need a national investigation of the racial context that led to Trayvon Martin’s slaying. Congress must act.

And it’s time to call on the United Nations Human Rights Commission for an in-depth investigation of whether the U.S. is upholding its obligations under international human rights laws and treaties.

Jackson is no stranger to civil rights politics and political action, having cut his teeth with Martin Luther King, Jr. as far back as 1965. In 1971, he started a non-profit called People United to Save Humanity (Operation PUSH) and in 1984 organized the Rainbow Coalition, which merged with PUSH in 1996 to become Rainbow/PUSH. Active politically with presidential runs in 1984 and 1988, Jackson has also inserted himself into international incidents, such as securing the release in 1983 of a captured American pilot, Navy Lt. Robert Goodman, who was being held by the Syrian government, as well as persuading Cuban dictator Fidel Castro to release 22 Americans in 1984.

Jackson’s demand for an investigation by the UN follows comments by other cogs in the international machinery decrying the Zimmerman case. Back in April 2012, just days before Zimmerman was indicted for second-degree murder in Florida, Navi Pillay, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights called for “an immediate investigation” into the shooting, adding:

The law should operate equally in respect of all violations. So, like every other situation such as this, we will be urging an investigation, and prosecution and trial — and of course reparations for the victims concerned
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Pillay expanded on her position in May at a meeting of her Working Group of Experts on People of African Descent in Paris where she decried America’s “discrimination that people of African descent face in terms of access to justice,” according to an observer. She “stressed that the process of justice was often different [in America] for people of African descent.”

And last December the UN inserted itself into another highly flammable issue when the UN’s Human Rights Committee criticized Florida’s “stand your ground” law, holding that it wasn’t “compliant with international human rights principles of necessity and proportionality [under which] there is a general duty to avoid the use of force where non-violent means of self-protection are reasonably available"

Jackson’s reference to the UN’s Human Rights Commission failed to reflect that that particular odious gaggle of thugs was replaced in 2006 by the UN’s Human Rights Council, an equally repugnant gathering of human rights violators. This opinion is shared not only by the New York Times but by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), both pro-internationalist entities, as well. In 2006, the Times, in an editorial entitled “The Shame of the United Nations,” pointed out:

Some of the world’s most abusive regimes have won seats on the Human Rights Commission and used them to insulate themselves from criticism. Current members include Sudan, which is carrying out genocide; Nepal, whose absolute monarch has suspended basic liberties; and Saudi Arabia, where women have few rights. All are gross violators of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the commission’s founding document.....snip~

Jesse Jackson Provides One More Reason to Get Us out of the UN


So Jackson is trying to get the UN to come back at Florida Stand Your Ground Gun Laws.....do you think Jackson with Sharpton leading a Television Crusade will influence the UN to come out and make another statement about the US and Florida?
 
I dont like them either, I think they keep race alive for job security. But about 90% of what I hear about them is on conservative forums.

Heya Mak :2wave: I think you can see why most on the left doesn't stick up for them. Not many around here have much to say concerning them, that's for sure.

Still their push over the race is in connection with the Gun Control issues in which they and Obama lost on.

Although those on the left should be brow beating Jackson down for running to the UN.
 
This is an Open discussion concerning these Two People. They are classified as Civil Rights Leaders. Should they be? Why should they be Civil Rights leaders? Is it because they are a minority and that they were at one point in their lives involved with a movement that was bigger than themselves?

What basis is there that they be defined as a Leader?

Why are they given a voice with the media? Can this be changed?

Should these two guys be addressed as a problem in the country? Should they be allowed to stir up Racial tensions in a Country that is divided by Red White and Blue? But more between Red and Blue.

Should both be told to stay out of others peoples Business and to worry about their own Communities they live in? For what reason should they allowed to be brought upon the political stage?


They are civil rights leaders because they sold themselves as civil rights leaders and enough of the black community bought that to make it pay. I don't know why they bought it and it's a free country. If they can make a great living fanning the flames of racism in this country, I suppose they have every right to. Racism is their product and you might not care much for it and I despise it, but they are getting rich off it and they seem to be quite successful at culturing it. I detest their business but how can you tell people they can't do that and still say that America is a free country? No, the same freedom of speech that protects our right to call a spade a spade protects their right to berate this country and preach "God Damn America" like Obama's pastor, Reverend Wright does.
 
They are civil rights leaders because they sold themselves as civil rights leaders and enough of the black community bought that to make it pay. I don't know why they bought it and it's a free country. If they can make a great living fanning the flames of racism in this country, I suppose they have every right to. Racism is their product and you might not care much for it and I despise it, but they are getting rich off it and they seem to be quite successful at culturing it. I detest their business but how can you tell people they can't do that and still say that America is a free country? No, the same freedom of speech that protects our right to call a spade a spade protects their right to berate this country and preach "God Damn America" like Obama's pastor, Reverend Wright does.

Heya PB
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Yeah they have the Right to go out and do such. That doesn't mean that they should not be challenged Openly and by people taking it to them over their race baiting and Playing on all that free stuff just for their people.

We should have those out there on daily basis that call them out. With the Media. Confront them with their So called Demonstrations. Every time they Open their damn big mouths someone needs to be always putting their foot off into Both Jackson and Sharptones ass.

Take these two pricks down. The rest of the Race Baiters won't even step up to the plate after they see how these two clowns can actually be dealt with.
 
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