Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion

[Spunkylama]

Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion​

I found this article and thought it might bring up some interesting discussion points. I see religious people making claims that religion is a natural proclivity to mankind. This article completely refutes that claim. Let me know what you think. https://phys.org/news/2016-02-disbelieve-ancient-history-atheism-natural.html

 

[Daisy]

The rebellious spirit is nothing new...aka Satan, Adam and Eve...

 

[Loulit01]

The rebellious spirit is nothing new...aka Satan, Adam and Eve...

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[Daisy]

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[Gordy327]

Disbelieve it or not, ancient history suggests that atheism is as natural to humans as religion​

I found this article and thought it might bring up some interesting discussion points. I see religious people making claims that religion is a natural proclivity to mankind. This article completely refutes that claim. Let me know what you think. https://phys.org/news/2016-02-disbelieve-ancient-history-atheism-natural.html

Everyone is born an atheist. Most just have religion/belief pushed on them as impressionable children.

 

[Gordy327]

I guess that makes faith the theistic version of Covid. Yeah, I wouldn't want to get infected with that.

 

[Daisy]

I guess that makes faith the theistic version of Covid. Yeah, I wouldn't want to get infected with that.

Awww, he's kinda cute...

 

[nota bene]

Everyone is born an atheist. Most just have religion/belief pushed on them as impressionable children.

You might just be surprised by how many children experience God for themselves.

 

[Gordy327]

You might just be surprised by how many children experience God for themselves.

Right, because children never make things up or blindly accept what their parents or some authority says. >sarc<

 

[nota bene]

Right, because children never make things up or blindly accept what their parents or some authority says. >sarc<

Some do. Some don't. I didn't. And I began going to church on my own when I was 10-11...and still do. So spare me your sarcasm; there are children who experience God for themselves early, and I am one of them.

 

[Gordy327]

Some do. Some don't. I didn't. And I began going to church on my own when I was 10-11...and still do. So spare me your sarcasm; there are children who experience God for themselves early, and I am one of them.

Good for you. And I suppose there were no other possible outside influences? Especially in a church, right? Kids sure are impressionable.

 

[nota bene]

Good for you. And I suppose there were no other possible outside influences? Especially in a church, right? Kids sure are impressionable.

Now you're looking for justifications for your prejudicial point of view, so there is not anything else I can say but to affirm that my own experience made a lifelong impression on me.

 

[Lutherf]

You might just be surprised by how many children experience God for themselves.

It is rather remarkable that every major society, and most minor ones, have developed religion. There have always been dissenters, usurpers and antagonists but the commitment to religion has persevered all along

 

[Gordy327]

Now you're looking for justifications for your prejudicial point of view, so there is not anything else I can say but to affirm that my own experience made a lifelong impression on me.

No justification. Merely more rational explanations.

 

[tacomancer]

It is rather remarkable that every major society, and most minor ones, have developed religion. There have always been dissenters, usurpers and antagonists but the commitment to religion has persevered all along

It just means human nature is both doesn’t change and can be inconsistent.

 

[Lutherf]

It just means human nature is both doesn’t change and can be inconsistent.

Those are the exact reasons that religion is necessary. Universal truth is essential for civilization to prosper

 

[tacomancer]

Those are the exact reasons that religion is necessary. Universal truth is essential for civilization to prosper

That will never work (or has worked) and just devolves into ever stricter social controls enforced through physical violence to support an ever more corrupt religious institution.

The truth is that this will not get better until human nature changes and that’s on Gods timing and human effort will never really change that needle on the dial.

 

[Gordy327]

That will never work (or has worked) and just devolves into ever stricter social controls enforced through physical violence to support an ever more corrupt religious institution.

The truth is that this will not get better until human nature changes and that’s on Gods timing and human effort will never really change that needle on the dial.

Things will not get better until humanity collectively grows up and abandons the need for Bronze Age fairy tales like god/s.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Universal truth is essential for civilization to prosper

No it's not.

 

[Arlette]

It is rather remarkable that every major society, and most minor ones, have developed religion. There have always been dissenters, usurpers and antagonists but the commitment to religion has persevered all along

No, not really. I don't think we are somehow hard-wired towards religion. We are curious. We wanna know how stuff works. How our world works. That was especially important for ancient people at the mercy of mother nature and that's what they did. Trying to figure stuff out. Considering the limitations of their knowledge at the time - coming up with a God or gods was reasonable. Now of course we know better.

 

[Lutherf]

No it's not.

It is.

When social and ethical truth becomes relative only to our own immediate circumstances, individually or collectively, it becomes a self serving version of truth. When something is self serving everything that is not in service of the self becomes a threat to the self. The reaction to that threat is ALWAYS some form of destruction and destruction inevitably stymies productivity and growth.

 

[devildavid]

It is.

When social and ethical truth becomes relative only to our own immediate circumstances, individually or collectively, it becomes a self serving version of truth. When something is self serving everything that is not in service of the self becomes a threat to the self. The reaction to that threat is ALWAYS some form of destruction and destruction inevitably stymies productivity and growth.

There is nothing called truth that applies objectively and universally. Thinking that there is brings about dangerous authoritarianism.

 

[Lutherf]

There is nothing called truth that applies objectively and universally. Thinking that there is brings about dangerous authoritarianism.

When truth is determined by man, that's true. When it's determined by God, it's quite the opposite.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Those are the exact reasons that religion is necessary. Universal truth is essential for civilization to prosper

Utter rubbish. America has prospered for more than 200 years, and we have never once accepted a universal truth as a group.

 

[Noodlegawd]

The rebellious spirit is nothing new...aka Satan, Adam and Eve...

What does atheism have to do with a "rebellious spirit?"