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Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

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Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

I went to one hosted by my best friend. He had a small group there, perhaps about 15-20 people. I know very, very well four people who were there, and the rest were folks with whom I'm well enough acquainted that they've been on some of my "guest lists." I on some of theirs, we encounter one another socially 10 to 20 times a years, and we all have several friends in common. Politically, the group was a mix of Dems, GOP-ers and Indies, but nobody there would self-identify as part of "The Base."

Most folks watched the speech and largely chatted quietly for most of it, and periodically laughing, exclaiming, cheering, etc. somewhat loudly. I and two other folks watched the first five minutes or so and then turned our attention and discussion to other things, tuning back into the speech when we heard a lot of noise from the actual speech watchers.

When the speech ended, we all chatted about it. Though there were points of agreement and disagreement on myriad matters, the one thing on which there was universal agreement was that nobody felt they could believe, let alone "take to the bank," anything Trump said. One could summarize the group's sentiment in that regard as:

"Yeah, the stuff he said that sounded good, sounded good. What, if anything, will to come of his having said? New talking points and political bludgeons? Or actual drives to enact substantive and sage policy? I haven't the first idea."​

To be sure, what "sounded good" differed among the various individuals, but that's beside the point.

The other thing that was fairly widely agreed upon was that the speech was targeted at mainstream and traditional Republicans with the intent of declaring to them that Trump isn't the stark-raving mad, demented and boorish lunatic we've seen for the past four years. Of course, there again, the caveat was "okay, so he seems sane enough, but will his behavior bear that out...that remains to be seen."


For my own part, I was surprised at the diffident tone of his delivery; Trump isn't typically shy or nervous before large groups, but he seemed that way (by comparison to his own other speeches) last evening. It reminded me of an address gave whereat I read prepared remarks that I'd not taken/had enough time to practice saying them, and, in turn, revise and become comfortable with saying them before "for real" delivering the address. Like Trump's delivery last night, it wasn't a disaster, but neither was it the rallying point I had rathered it'd have been.


So, if you spent the SOTU with a group and discussed the matter afterwards, what was the dominant sentiment(s) on which your group of friends/acquaintances expressed unanimously?
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

What kind of idiots have SOTU parties?
 
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It was just my wife and 2 neighbors. The one thing that we all agreed jumped out the most was when he not so subtly dog whistled "and I WILL build the wall", which we all took to mean Trump was ready and willing to declare a national emergency, if necessary, to get his way with his wall.
 
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Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

There are "SOTU parties" now? :roll:
 
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"What kind of idiots have SOTU parties?" was also my thought - how old are these people, 22? Perhaps I am underestimating my own youthful gullibility for such events, but I almost completely stopped listening to the SOTU after Bush Sr.. Boring windbaggery, filled with brain dead platitudes, aspirational wishful thinking and a laundry list of goodies the emperor will promise to hurl to the outstretched hands of the masses should he win.

And for this you have a party to deliberate its merits? That as ridiculous as having a part to discuss the merits of WWF bout - it's theater people, and your suckers to think its worthy of being taken seriously. Grow up...
 
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What kind of idiots have SOTU parties?

I probably shouldn't even dignify your question with a reply, but....

Sociable people who don't need to overburden themselves with a reason to call a few friends and have them over to commiserate over something they have in common. It could just as easily have been called a "Tuesday night get together," but the SOTU was being given, and everyone in attendance had some degree of interest in it, so it was called a SOTU party.

Of course, if "party" for you exclusively means of bacchanal abandon with assured hangovers in the morning, rather than folks chilling, chatting, and nursing a cocktail or two with some munchies over about two or three hours, well, then, you wouldn't think of it as a party.

What am I to say? Different strokes for different folks. Fortunately, my friend's party was free from all who would call him an idiot and idiotic for having the notion to invite some people over and allowing the SOTU to be the conversation rubric.​
 
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There are "SOTU parties" now? :roll:
"What kind of idiots have SOTU parties?" was also my thought - how old are these people, 22? Perhaps I am underestimating my own youthful gullibility for such events, but I almost completely stopped listening to the SOTU after Bush Sr.. Boring windbaggery, filled with brain dead platitudes, aspirational wishful thinking and a laundry list of goodies the emperor will promise to hurl to the outstretched hands of the masses should he win.

And for this you have a party to deliberate its merits? That as ridiculous as having a part to discuss the merits of WWF bout - it's theater people, and your suckers to think its worthy of being taken seriously. Grow up...



See post 6.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

See post 6.

Different strokes.....:shrug:
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

I went to one hosted by my best friend.

Not a party, just Karen and I watching it and playing a "SOTU drinking game".
Our "mistake" was doing shots on an empty stomach.
Karen was tipsy after three shots, blotto by the sixth, in bed about two hours later, but not before the kids came home and busted a gut about it.

I got pretty buzzed too, but I'm sober now, haven't done that in a long time, years maybe.
Karen was embarrassed because she thinks she sounded stupid but everyone agrees she was funny as hell.

The speech wasn't nearly as unhinged as I expected, until he began making up alternative facts about criminal migration and socialism, particularly the suggestion that there might be a desire to "turn America into Venezuela".

That was about the point where Karen had to down her sixth shot. :lamo
I caught a minute or two of Stacey Abrams' response but I'll have to go watch it online tomorrow.

Oh yeah, during all of this Karen managed to make some delightful chicken enchiladas which turned out perfect.
 
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Different strokes.....:shrug:

I had a bit more respect for the lot of you, Bum, maxparrish, Freedom From All, until you started whining about the notion of people having SOTU parties, or drinking games, etc.

You guys seem a little bitter.
 
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I was eating my best meal since 2007, which had been planned longer than the speech has.

I have barely looked into it, the drive on five was pure torture thanks to yet more bad work from the state of Washington.
 
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I had a bit more respect for the lot of you, Bum, maxparrish, Freedom From All, until you started whining about the notion of people having SOTU parties, or drinking games, etc.

You guys seem a little bitter.

Meh.....I dont get "tailgate" parties either.....just strikes me as an odd thing.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

Not a party, just Karen and I watching it and playing a "SOTU drinking game".
Our "mistake" was doing shots on an empty stomach.
Karen was tipsy after three shots, blotto by the sixth, in bed about two hours later, but not before the kids came home and busted a gut about it.

I got pretty buzzed too, but I'm sober now, haven't done that in a long time, years maybe.
Karen was embarrassed because she thinks she sounded stupid but everyone agrees she was funny as hell.

The speech wasn't nearly as unhinged as I expected, until he began making up alternative facts about criminal migration and socialism, particularly the suggestion that there might be a desire to "turn America into Venezuela".

That was about the point where Karen had to down her sixth shot. :lamo
I caught a minute or two of Stacey Abrams' response but I'll have to go watch it online tomorrow.

Oh yeah, during all of this Karen managed to make some delightful chicken enchiladas which turned out perfect.

Red:
Well, we didn't do anything of that sort. LOL I'm retired and probably could have, but I'm not much into drinking games these days. Most folks there have to work in the morning, and none of us can drink with the same abandon we dared exhibit in college/grad school and in our 20s. LOL


Blue:
I fell the same way. Though I couldn't bring myself to sit before a TV screen as did most folks, after reading the transcript, I can say it wasn't one of those "off the chain" incoherent diatribes typical of Trump.


Pink:
Yummy!!! We had crab balls, shrimp cocktail, finger sandwiches, and assorted "DIY" canapes and whatever cocktails one felt like pouring for oneself.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

See post 6.

Look, its not just a matter of personal taste. I can understand why someone might want to watch purely to measure political impact and reactions BUT I really don't understand any group discussing whether or not to "believe the King's" promises (as if he could deliver without Congress) or give any weight to it AS IF it has profound meaning. These things are theater; bragging about accomplishments as if they were small revolutions in government, long lists of goodies, calls for unity, tear jerkers, and nothing deeper than stating a general commitment.

Look its charming that a group of people can gather to discuss the President's policies AS IF they are doing it as a civic duty - but honestly, what's the point? Americans no longer feel obligated or interested in supporting a President of the other party no matter what he says, and believe a President of the other party is, by definition, a demon. Maybe its a teaching moment for 8th graders, but what kind of people go to a SOTU party?
 
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Red:
Well, we didn't do anything of that sort. LOL I'm retired and probably could have, but I'm not much into drinking games these days. Most folks there have to work in the morning, and none of us can drink with the same abandon we dared exhibit in college/grad school and in our 20s. LOL


Blue:
I fell the same way. Though I couldn't bring myself to sit before a TV screen as did most folks, after reading the transcript, I can say it wasn't one of those "off the chain" incoherent diatribes typical of Trump.


Pink:
Yummy!!! We had crab balls, shrimp cocktail, finger sandwiches, and assorted "DIY" canapes and whatever cocktails one felt like pouring for oneself.

Well GD, coming from you that is damn near a compliment of Trump.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

I had a bit more respect for the lot of you, Bum, maxparrish, Freedom From All, until you started whining about the notion of people having SOTU parties, or drinking games, etc.

You guys seem a little bitter.

Not bitter - just utterly perplexed that anyone would want have a party around what is an annual ritual that is long, tiresome and so generalized as to be empty of content (or at least empty of new content). Presidents don't say anything they have not said before, so it becomes little more than a summery that tick's off a few sentences on each talking point and then tosses in a few new "do-gooder" initiatives that are more or less tokens of "caring" (hey, we should cure HIV!).

If my current girl-friend hadn't insisted we watch it, I'd have been on Netflix enjoying myself.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

What kind of idiots have SOTU parties?

People who care about America I figure, my kind of people.

I am so glad that I could help you.

I live to serve.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

Off-Topic:


I probably shouldn't even dignify your question with a reply, but....

Sociable people who don't need to overburden themselves with a reason to call a few friends and have them over to commiserate over something they have in common. It could just as easily have been called a "Tuesday night get together," but the SOTU was being given, and everyone in attendance had some degree of interest in it, so it was called a SOTU party.

Of course, if "party" for you exclusively means of bacchanal abandon with assured hangovers in the morning, rather than folks chilling, chatting, and nursing a cocktail or two with some munchies over about two or three hours, well, then, you wouldn't think of it as a party.

What am I to say? Different strokes for different folks. Fortunately, my friend's party was free from all who would call him an idiot and idiotic for having the notion to invite some people over and allowing the SOTU to be the conversation rubric.​

Was not off topic at all. I have just never heard of well...... anyone getting together to watch the SOTU, no matter who was President. But I suppose that it was just one of those things I guess.

Most of the time no one really cares what the president says at the SOTU. Just people who either like the President or those that want to critique whatever the President said. Its all rather meaningless rhetoric (at least every time that I wasted watching it).
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

Not bitter - just utterly perplexed that anyone would want have a party around what is an annual ritual that is long, tiresome and so generalized as to be empty of content (or at least empty of new content). Presidents don't say anything they have not said before, so it becomes little more than a summery that tick's off a few sentences on each talking point and then tosses in a few new "do-gooder" initiatives that are more or less tokens of "caring" (hey, we should cure HIV!).

If my current girl-friend hadn't insisted we watch it, I'd have been on Netflix enjoying myself.

I love the people who live by "Any excuse to throw a quality party is ok with me!".

Might I suggest that you upgrade?
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

People who care about America I figure, my kind of people.

I am so glad that I could help you.

I live to serve.

I did not even need to watch it. I bet he came out said some stupid crap and before the end contradicted it. Mostly though he probably lied his ass off, like he always does.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

I did not even need to watch it. I bet he came out said some stupid crap and before the end contradicted it. Mostly though he probably lied his ass off, like he always does.
The trouble for you is that there are a lot of layers to Trump that you have never been allowed to see and that you would not in your wildest dream suspect exist.

AKA you dont know the 411.

That is bad for you.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

Meh.....I dont get "tailgate" parties either.....just strikes me as an odd thing.

There's really not much to "get" about them. They're a reason to have fun with friends before or after a sporting event.

They're also an entertaining way to pass the time waiting for the game to start and after it ends, which, frankly, would otherwise entail little other than sitting in traffic. They also mean one doesn't have to eat "stadium food," which, for the most part (there are some exceptions), sucks.
  • Before the game --> Get there early, fire up the grill, eat a bit, drink some beer or hootch (homemade peach 'shine is "just what the doctor ordered"), trash talk with friends, and then head into the stadium.
  • After the game --> Go to one of your friend's tailgate and do the same things you did before the game, and when the traffic has abated, head to someone else's post-game party or out to a bar/club.
That schedule works particularly well for folks who attend college games, but it can be adjusted to work for pro games too.

In any case, it's a great way to spend a couple hours or so prior to kickoff. In any case, it's about being social, and "killing time" differently (more pleasurably) than doing so inside a car in a long line of traffic (I don't know about you, but I really detest waiting in lines), and, frankly, in a way that beats the pants off of doing so on social media.
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

Look, its not just a matter of personal taste. I can understand why someone might want to watch purely to measure political impact and reactions BUT I really don't understand any group discussing whether or not to "believe the King's" promises (as if he could deliver without Congress) or give any weight to it AS IF it has profound meaning. These things are theater; bragging about accomplishments as if they were small revolutions in government, long lists of goodies, calls for unity, tear jerkers, and nothing deeper than stating a general commitment.

Look its charming that a group of people can gather to discuss the President's policies AS IF they are doing it as a civic duty - but honestly, what's the point? Americans no longer feel obligated or interested in supporting a President of the other party no matter what he says, and believe a President of the other party is, by definition, a demon. Maybe its a teaching moment for 8th graders, but what kind of people go to a SOTU party?

Red:
Let's not go too far. Nobody who was there thinks (or thought) discussing the SOTU is part of their "civic duty." And make no mistake, we discussed other things as well. And we're all "minglers," which is how one learns what everyone else is saying. In any case, it wasn't the home-hosted analogue to a symposium.


Blue:
I answered that question in post 6. I bid you to read it. Did you?
 
Re: Did you go to a SOTU "party," and if you did, what was the primary feedback of the attendees?

Well GD, coming from you that is damn near a compliment of Trump.

I have been complimentary of Trump well before that remark. I created at least one thread for the purpose of giving him his due. I have no trouble giving his due when he earns it. That said, I'm not about to compliment anyone for doing what's expected of them; I laud folks for exceeding expectations.
 
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The trouble for you is that there are a lot of layers to Trump that you have never been allowed to see and that you would not in your wildest dream suspect exist.

AKA you dont know the 411.

That is bad for you.

I really care nothing about politicians. Politicians are either good cogs or bad cogs. This one is bad and needs replaced.
 
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