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Did The Email Investigation Cause The FBI To Drop The Ball Regarding Orlando?

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Is the FBI so tied up in using investigators on Hillary that they dropped the ball with the Orlando shooting?
 
Is the FBI so tied up in using investigators on Hillary that they dropped the ball with the Orlando shooting?

With 14,000 agents and only a few handfulls looking at hillary, I doubt it.

A verbal directive not to scrutinize muslems? I don't have any evidence to support that but in today's environment I wouldn't be at all suprized.
 
My guess is no. The agents working on the criminal investigation into Hillary's State Department likely require a different type of expertise than the agents chasing down leads on religious terrorists.

I have no idea how the FBI allocates its manpower. However, at some point it had to have become obvious that under Obama and AG Lynch anybody and anything assigned to Clinton investigations would amount to little more than investigative masturbation.
 
I am sure this RW talking point will get traction, cause, you know, there are only like 12 FBI guys so the same ones that investigate terrorist works on internal email security on his days off and during lunch break. Another RW outrage I am sure.
 
To add: Morale in the FBI probably suffers under all the crap those men and women are expected to do. I've met a few agents and they are one hell of a dedicated group of people. Still, the terrorist vigilance and investigations probably drain them mentally, emotionally and physically after a while. Throw into that mix a very high profile investigation into a case that will never likely see the true light of day and it probably blows being an agent these days.
 
How small do you think the FBI is?
 
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/faqs

How many people work for the FBI?

The FBI employs nearly 35,000 people, including special agents and support professionals such as intelligence analysts, language specialists, scientists, and information technology specialists. Learn how you can join us at FBIJobs.gov.
 
No. The FBI can chew gum and walk at the same time. They have the resources to do both at the same time and compromise neither.
 
I am sure this RW talking point will get traction, cause, you know, there are only like 12 FBI guys so the same ones that investigate terrorist works on internal email security on his days off and during lunch break. Another RW outrage I am sure.

Lol, you just really ****ing hate the right, don't you? :lol:

I saw this as more of a left wing thing, like "see? We have to take up valuable agents time with this witch hunt rather than keep folks from shooting up gay bar". Couldn't be though, right? The left would never do anything wrong or bad.
 
Is the FBI so tied up in using investigators on Hillary that they dropped the ball with the Orlando shooting?

I don't think so, but i think it's a reasonable question that can't be explained away by citing the number of FBI employees without context.

More specifically, why are we spending so many resources investigating something where there is absolutely no evidence of criminal intent while our citizens are exposed to actual dangers ?
 
Is the FBI so tied up in using investigators on Hillary that they dropped the ball with the Orlando shooting?

No. Political Correctness is what caused them to drop the ball.
 
Is the FBI so tied up in using investigators on Hillary that they dropped the ball with the Orlando shooting?

Email that to her campaign - I'd love to hear her try to use that excuse/cover, it would be most entertaining.
 
Lol, you just really ****ing hate the right, don't you? :lol:

I saw this as more of a left wing thing, like "see? We have to take up valuable agents time with this witch hunt rather than keep folks from shooting up gay bar". Couldn't be though, right? The left would never do anything wrong or bad.

I hate the stupid from the right. Correct.
 
I hate the stupid from the right. Correct.

And you don't mind it on the left or you just don't care or believe that there is any?
 
And you don't mind it on the left or you just don't care or believe that there is any?

OH yes there is, but just not the mind numbing noise machine the Right wing has had their head in for eight years. It turned into Trump.
 
And you don't mind it on the left or you just don't care or believe that there is any?

Well it definitely exists on the left to, but I do mind it. And I'm vehemently against it, especially when it comes to the PC/SJW Squad.
 
Well it definitely exists on the left to, but I do mind it. And I'm vehemently against it, especially when it comes to the PC/SJW Squad.

It's like watching two 4 year olds argue. They're both 100% certain that they're right and the other one is wrong but adults don't care and are annoyed by thier screeching
 
Well it definitely exists on the left to, but I do mind it. And I'm vehemently against it, especially when it comes to the PC/SJW Squad.

I have absolutely seen that from you and I respect it. I try to be real about the right as well but I probably don't do it as much as I should.
 
It's like watching two 4 year olds argue. They're both 100% certain that they're right and the other one is wrong but adults don't care and are annoyed by thier screeching

The SJW's? Oh yeah, they're extremely annyoing and whiny.
 
OH yes there is, but just not the mind numbing noise machine the Right wing has had their head in for eight years. It turned into Trump.

If you've ever complained about the left or believed some criticism of the left to be legit, I've never seen it. But, of course, you're not biased at all like claiming the initial question in the OP just had to come from those stupid right wingers. That's certainly a completely fair point based on pretty much nothing. Your opinion of the right, though, and everyone on the right is pretty clear.
 
Right, and you're not biased at all like claiming the initial question in the OP just had to come from right wingers. I think it's interesting what you choose not to notice. You're opinion of the right, though, and everyone on the right is pretty clear.

I was far right most of my life, now I am just disappointed.
 
Well yeah, I'm saying 2 hyper-partisans arguing. But you're sure as hell not wrong lol

Oh don't get me wrong, those people are annoying as **** too. But I just find the SJW's more annoying because I'm exposed to them more often, and I watch them get destroyed all the time on YouTube.
 
Oh don't get me wrong, those people are annoying as **** too. But I just find the SJW's more annoying because I'm exposed to them more often, and I watch them get destroyed all the time on YouTube.

From my experience the more extreme your views, the less information you're willing to expose yourself to, and are therefore by default and definition more ignorant.
 
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