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Did the coach in the prayer lawsuit lie to the SCOTUS?

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I have been reading that several of the players on the team made it clear that being party to the prayer circle might not have been so voluntary, but "suggested" by the coach. These players said that the coach hinted that if you a good teammate, ie., wanted to play, you would come and join. If this is actually true, we will probably never find out, then the coach actually lied to SCOTUS. I do not think it would make a difference on how this court had decided the case as the wanted to expand church and decrease state in the separation of them, but it is interesting.
 
independentusa said:
I have been reading that several of the players on the team made it clear that being party to the prayer circle might not have been so voluntary, but "suggested" by the coach. These players said that the coach hinted that if you a good teammate, ie., wanted to play, you would come and join. If this is actually true, we will probably never find out, then the coach actually lied to SCOTUS. I do not think it would make a difference on how this court had decided the case as the wanted to expand church and decrease state in the separation of them, but it is interesting.
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hell, anyone that has played sports knows there are certain things that you do to please the coaching staff.

and all of us know there are all types of coaches (very religious to not religious).



and if you're a borderline starter/player why risk it?
 
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I believe the team. A lot of religious people who are also in power, try to bring-you-in to his/her way of thinking.
In Australia, we call them God Dealers. (as in drug dealers) Always push, push, push.
 
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Christians have a moral imperative to "save" others. In this effort, the means justifies the ends, as there is no higher purpose than saving souls.

It's why no "true" Christian can ever be trusted. Every dealing they have with you, every interaction...has motive.
 
independentusa said:
I have been reading that several of the players on the team made it clear that being party to the prayer circle might not have been so voluntary, but "suggested" by the coach. These players said that the coach hinted that if you a good teammate, ie., wanted to play, you would come and join. If this is actually true, we will probably never find out, then the coach actually lied to SCOTUS. I do not think it would make a difference on how this court had decided the case as the wanted to expand church and decrease state in the separation of them, but it is interesting.
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“Suggested”. “Hinted”.

Sounds like bullshit.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
I want a Muslim coach to lead a prayer. Let's see what happens.
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That's different, that coach isn't Christian. /sarcasm

For real though, Christians/Republicans would lose their minds if a Muslim coach led a prayer at midfield
 
STUT said:
That's different, that coach isn't Christian. /sarcasm

For real though, Christians/Republicans would lose their minds if a Muslim coach led a prayer at midfield
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Oh please. I'm sure that smart people of a conservative persuasion would favor socially conservative values held by Muslims over the more aberrant alternatives, such as those who intentionally try to sexualize children, or promote harmful, irreversible, unnecessary sexual reassignment procedures for minors.

Sure, there are stupid and worthless conservatives, but I'm sure that the smart and powerful ones know that moderate Islamic values would make for a great alliance.
 
Starlight said:
Oh please. I'm sure that smart people of a conservative persuasion would favor socially conservative values held by Muslims over the more aberrant alternatives, such as those who intentionally try to sexualize children, or promote harmful, irreversible, unnecessary sexual reassignment procedures for minors.

Sure, there are stupid and worthless conservatives, but I'm sure that the smart and powerful ones know that moderate Islamic values would make for a great alliance.
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LOL, you must not know Christian conservatives. They would lose their minds if a Muslim coach had kids praying to Allah in school.

They don't want freedom of religion in public spaces. They want freedom of Christianity. They would love the teacher to lead the class in prayer but only if that teacher is Christian. On religious freedom, they are complete frauds.
 
SonOfDaedalus said:
LOL, you must not know Christian conservatives. They would lose their minds if a Muslim coach had kids praying to Allah in school.

They don't want freedom of religion in public spaces. They want freedom of Christianity. They would love the teacher to lead the class in prayer but only if that teacher is Christian. On religious freedom, they are complete frauds.
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Right, I don't count the stupid ones as being relevant.

If they actually have socially-conservative values, then they'll be smart enough to realize that socially conservative Muslims who oppose abortion, pornography, LGBT politics, etc - would make a useful demographic to court.
 
independentusa said:
I have been reading that several of the players on the team made it clear that being party to the prayer circle might not have been so voluntary, but "suggested" by the coach. These players said that the coach hinted that if you a good teammate, ie., wanted to play, you would come and join. If this is actually true, we will probably never find out, then the coach actually lied to SCOTUS. I do not think it would make a difference on how this court had decided the case as the wanted to expand church and decrease state in the separation of them, but it is interesting.
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We can only go with what's presented. If he lied, then I would demand lawyers find evidence of that and present it. If not, then it's really not worth considering.
 
Starlight said:
Right, I don't count the stupid ones as being relevant.

If they actually have socially-conservative values, then they'll be smart enough to realize that socially conservative Muslims who oppose abortion, pornography, LGBT politics, etc - would make a useful demographic to court.
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That's actually what the left is most afraid. Christians, muslims, hispanics, black men, all voting together against democrat insanity. A true, patriotic, coalition.

STUT said:
That's different, that coach isn't Christian. /sarcasm

For real though, Christians/Republicans would lose their minds if a Muslim coach led a prayer at midfield
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they're already learning. Muslims and christians together is what the real power truly fears.

 
independentusa said:
I have been reading that several of the players on the team made it clear that being party to the prayer circle might not have been so voluntary, but "suggested" by the coach. These players said that the coach hinted that if you a good teammate, ie., wanted to play, you would come and join. If this is actually true, we will probably never find out, then the coach actually lied to SCOTUS. I do not think it would make a difference on how this court had decided the case as the wanted to expand church and decrease state in the separation of them, but it is interesting.
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HIP56948 said:
I believe the team. A lot of religious people who are also in power, try to bring-you-in to his/her way of thinking.
In Australia, we call them God Dealers. (as in drug dealers) Always push, push, push.
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Here we call them jesus freaks.

Or in the particular case of this asshole coach ... a poser/attention whore...
 
independentusa said:
I have been reading that several of the players on the team made it clear that being party to the prayer circle might not have been so voluntary, but "suggested" by the coach. These players said that the coach hinted that if you a good teammate, ie., wanted to play, you would come and join. If this is actually true, we will probably never find out, then the coach actually lied to SCOTUS. I do not think it would make a difference on how this court had decided the case as the wanted to expand church and decrease state in the separation of them, but it is interesting.
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Why should we assume he lied absent any proof of it?
 
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