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Did Pelosi and Reid know about the Foley hard core Instant Messages?

aps said:
I assumed when you said "democrats" that you were addressing the democrats IN CONGRESS. Tell me what democrats in Congress who are real strategists. I would love to see what you come up with.

I was talking about Democrats like Pelosi and Emanual but you do realize the CBS is a liberalpartisan media outlet.......
 
aps said:
They should step down from their leadership position(s).


What everyone is confusing is instant messages and E-mails....They are 2 different ways to send a message..............
 
aps said:
They should step down from their leadership position(s).

How about any congressmen who thought going after pages for sexual gradification didn't require expulsion or even a censure?
 
Stinger said:
How about any congressmen who thought going after pages for sexual gradification didn't require expulsion or even a censure?
How about pigs that fly?

Hey Navy....how come you didn't rebut the posts I made that completely debunked your thesis for this thread? Cut and Run NP??? AGAIN!
 
Navy Pride said:
You can bet your bottom dollar that Soros and his web site had something to do with it.............Don't you at least find it suspicious about the timing of this?

This is just a rediculous of a statement as saying that Bush was behind 911. I thought you were against people spreading crazy conspiracy theories? Or perhaps you are part of the hysterical population?
 
MSNBC said:
MCHENRY: I don‘t know that—Chris, I‘ll answer it this way. I do not know that they did not. And Nancy Pelosi and Rahm Emanuel, I asked them two days in a letter to submit themselves under oath and say clearly, yes or no, did they have prior knowledge of the instant messages and or e-mails. And if they did, they‘re an accessory to this crime.

MATTHEWS: How so?

MCHENRY: Because they allowed to keep a pedophile on the streets.

...

MATTHEWS: No, it‘s not actually. Well, isn‘t because unless it‘s part of an effort to—and you actually do meet up with the kid and have sex, apparently. That‘s what I understand the law to be. But you‘re saying their job was to report it to the federal authorities and not to your leadership.

MCHENRY: Absolutely, and the Ethics Committee in the House is evenly divided. It‘s a bipartisan committee.

So let me get this straight... if you knew about it and did not stop it you are an accesory to the crime?

Didn't the reps know about it and not stop it? So aren't they accesories to the crime?

Also, you should report it to the federal authorities and not to your leadership.

Didn't the reps report it to ONLY their leadership. So, by logical thinking aren't these guys aplying a double standard for their party and the dems? The dems are required to report it to the federal authorities but the reps should only report it to their leadership. Did I get the jist of that right?

Personally I think both parties are equally as corrupt and all of the incumbs should be removed from office.
 
Indy said:
Personally I think both parties are equally as corrupt and all of the incumbs should be removed from office.

I think they should all be fully vetted and their skeletons tossed out of the closet onto the floor for all to see. The criminals should be prosecuted and the voters should take care of the rest(standing ovations aside.)
Congress has proven over and over it cannot police itself with any efficacy.
 
Indy said:
This is just a rediculous of a statement as saying that Bush was behind 911. I thought you were against people spreading crazy conspiracy theories? Or perhaps you are part of the hysterical population?


We shall see how this plays out...........Hopefully Soros will be called to testify under oath and we will dind out what he knew and when he knew it...........I really don't trust anyone that funds a hate website like moveon.org.........
 
Navy Pride said:
I really don't trust anyone that funds a hate website like moveon.org.
Do you trust someone who starts hate threads all the time in Debate Politics? Do you? Look in the mirror Navy Pride, what do you see? Are you hating the reflection?
 
26 X World Champs said:
Do you trust someone who starts hate threads all the time in Debate Politics? Do you? Look in the mirror Navy Pride, what do you see? Are you hating the reflection?

Damn Yankee! That's one helluva visual. Thanks a lot. :roll:
 
Navy Pride said:
We shall see how this plays out...........Hopefully Soros will be called to testify under oath and we will dind out what he knew and when he knew it...........I really don't trust anyone that funds a hate website like moveon.org.........

Okay, and if that happends then you will have some ground to stand on. The same would hold true for those who think Bush was behind 911. The truth is though that until you have anything that would slightly resemble any shred of evidence you are just spouting out the very same type of conspiracy theories that you condem when uttered by a liberal.
 
Indy said:
So let me get this straight... if you knew about it and did not stop it you are an accesory to the crime?

If you know a felony has been committed and you don't report it you can be held accountable under the law.

Didn't the reps know about it and not stop it? So aren't they accesories to the crime?

What felony did the Rep's know about? They knew about the Emails which were not sexual in nature.

Also, you should report it to the federal authorities and not to your leadership.

No one, including the newspapers, who saw the Emails reported them to legal authorities because nothing in them violated the law.

Didn't the reps report it to ONLY their leadership.

Yes.

So, by logical thinking aren't these guys aplying a double standard for their party and the dems?

No, the story that seems to be unfolding is that some Dems knew about the IM's which may have violated the law.

The dems are required to report it to the federal authorities but the reps should only report it to their leadership. Did I get the jist of that right?

Yes, because we are dealing with two seperate issues, the Emails and the IM's.
 
Stinger said:
No, the story that seems to be unfolding is that some Dems knew about the IM's which may have violated the law.

Since when is this the story that is devolping? Developing on FOX news probably but that's no supprise. Where is any shred of evidence that the Dems knew about the IM's and the Reps didn't? Also, HOW would the dems have found out about it and does that make the Reps incompetent when it comes to monitering their own people?
 
Indy said:
Since when is this the story that is devolping?

Since a couple of days after it first broke.

Developing on FOX news probably but that's no supprise.

Yes they tend to do better than the other networks.

Where is any shred of evidence that the Dems knew about the IM's and the Reps didn't?

As I said Developing.

Also, HOW would the dems have found out about it

Well obviously the people who were engaged in the IM's gave them to somebody.

and does that make the Reps incompetent when it comes to monitering their own people?

Oh, they were suppose to be monitoring private emails? Were the Democrats incompent for not monitoring their own Mel Reynolds? I didn't know such monitoring went on.
 
26 X World Champs said:
Do you trust someone who starts hate threads all the time in Debate Politics? Do you? Look in the mirror Navy Pride, what do you see? Are you hating the reflection?
Both of you are two peas from the same pod, if you ask me. Try sharing the ball or else you'll just end up bickering through the entire recess.
 
Navy Pride said:
They had something more juicy in 2004...........The Dan Rather CBS National Guard story.................It dealt directly with the president.......This scam deals with the HOR 1 month before the elections.....

I see, so the Dems decided to hold back for the 2006 mid-term elections rather than drop the bomb during the 2004 presidential elections.

Damn they are sneaky!
 
Iriemon said:
I see, so the Dems decided to hold back for the 2006 mid-term elections rather than drop the bomb during the 2004 presidential elections.

Damn they are sneaky!

They had the CBS and Dan Rather lies then and besides this is about congress, it would not have bothered Bush..........
 
Stinger said:
Since a couple of days after it first broke.

Yes they tend to do better than the other networks.

As I said Developing.

So... no evidence. Republicans blaming dems since the story broke. Fox news is pushing the story. This is enough to go on for you? You are just as bad as the dems who blamed bush for 911. The "theory" is this.... I think there was a "conspiracy" to do this... All the while you show no proof and just plant seeds of doubt with no substantial evidence to support your claims. This is what you have become huh?

Are the dems playing politics with this scandal, yes. Are they jumping for joy because the story was released before the elections, yes. Are they just as bad as the republicans, yes. But does that mean that I should listen to crack-pot consipracy theories just because FOX news says so? FOX news has said plenty of things in the last year alone that is directly contradicotry to the truth, and they are also known for a great deal of spin on the little amount of truth that they do choose to report. Don't get me wrong, MSNBC is no better.
 
Indy said:
So... no evidence. Republicans blaming dems since the story broke. Fox news is pushing the story.

No it was Dems trying to push a story, I guess you have missed all the reports of Dem operatives shopping the story to various magazines and newspapers. You should be better sources, FOX for instance.
 
Stinger said:
No it was Dems trying to push a story, I guess you have missed all the reports of Dem operatives shopping the story to various magazines and newspapers. You should be better sources, FOX for instance.

Perhaps I shall have an opportunity to better inform myself if you posted a link to these claims.
 
Stinger said:
No it was Dems trying to push a story, I guess you have missed all the reports of Dem operatives shopping the story to various magazines and newspapers. You should be better sources, FOX for instance.
Bullshit, repeat, BULLSHIT! How dare you make such a fasle claim and then don't even have the balls to provide any proof to back your falsehood!

Listen Mr. Republican what you're selling no one is buying...people don't buy $hit on a stick.
 
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