Then you are misreading me. For a start not everything I have said is concerned with what activists say and when it is it is because of a particular point, so that is not true. It is particularly untrue with regard to 'that Kenneth guy', below, because if you read what I said properly you would have seen that it was because of the fact that he was speaking about his part in disarming soldiers which made me give what you wrote more thought. You also, perhaps this comes from translation or perhaps you are just choosing to misread me, but just because I quote something does not mean I am saying it is true or untrue, I am simply quoting what the person says. I am still involved in my own investigation and learning.
I am absolutely not misreading you. I have understood you, your words and your intentions to their full extent.
If you have proof of 'that Kenneth guy' attacking soldiers with knives and crowbars of course you will be able to present this.
By 'them' I was referring to the violent mob that this Kenneth was part of.
As I have already said he has already spoken of disarming soldiers. He has not said he was uninvolved, though yes, he said he did not harm the soldiers he disarmed. Now you have made a definite point. This will need to be proved. We all know that there was a fight. We just do not know why.
Key words being "he has said".
If I believed I was about to be killed, would I fight even though I was supposed to just sit there and die if need be. I do not know. I am not Ghandi.
Which is why the Israeli soldiers have returned fire.
The activists, however, have had no sane reason to believe that they would be killed.
If the IDF wanted them killed, they would be dead before they understood what happens.
There is absolutely no sane reason to believe those were the activists thoughts.
That is something you refuse to understand. It is extremely important what the people on the boat believed the situation to be, more important than what the situation was.
I do not think that there is a doubt to what a person that chooses to attack soldiers with knives and crowbars think. I honestly do not think you're fooling anyone.
I have also said and left link to listening to a previous boat the Arion and hearing them being told in no uncertain terms that they would be fired on.
Again, you're not fooling anyone.
This is an international procedure. To warn the ship to stop, when it doesn't, warn it to stop or else it would be attacked.
Just two days ago I was watching a show on the Discovery channel about border security.
An Australian navy ship was chasing a ship suspected with drugs smuggling, ordering to stop immediately and allow the Australian navy soldiers to board the ship.
When it was ignored they've issued another warning saying "stop immediately or you will be shot".
Then you and the rest of the 'objective' world would be no good in courts of law.
Absolutely not, it is you and people that promote such illogical claims that would not be given a hearing in a court of law.
It is not sufficient just to say someone is guilty of something, you have to prove it.
I have zero doubts that the evidence, which is more than sufficient for the rational person, would be sufficient to accuse the activists with the intent to murder in a court of law.
A person for instance fighting for his life is not the same as someone fighting because he has a desire to hurt someone. They are too entirely different situations.
It is crystal clear what the intentions of the activists were.
Indeed there are a great number of options. At the current moment on what I know now, those are the two most likely. If further evidence was produced, I might change my mind but it so far has not been.
The most likely option so far is that they have attacked the soldiers with the intent to kill them.
Maybe, maybe not. I certainly have seen nothing yet to make me come to that conclusion. No Israeli died. 9 of them died with multiple gunshot wounds. Perhaps they were as they say just trying to protect themselves.
How is it relevant that no Israeli has died if two Israelis were seriously injured?
How does it matter if the soldiers' lives were entirely dependent on the doctors' aid?
How does it matter when two soldiers were shot with live bullets?
How does it matter when soldiers were stabbed?
The intent to murder is crystal clear here.
You would not get a job in a court of law in our country.
And that would have nothing to do with my sense of logic, but rather with my current profession.
And still I do not doubt that my chances to get such a job in your country are still way, way higher than yours.
We still have not seen the beginning of the fighting
We did. The footage covers it.