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DEVELOPING: Multiple victims reported, person detained in California church shooting

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Where was Republican Jesus?

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What gun problem?

Exactly.

There are over 333 million Americans at last count. https://www.census.gov/popclock/

Anywhere from 81 - 100 million of those (depending on which sources you believe) legally own firearms. https://americangunfacts.com/gun-ownership-statistics/

An unknown number also illegally own firearms.

There were 693 "mass shootings" in 2021.

They claimed 702 lives and 2,844 injured.

"Though mass public shootings like the Boulder, Colorado, supermarket shooting; the metro Atlanta spa shootings; and the San Jose transit shooting garnered intense media attention, most mass shootings disproportionately affect Black and brown communities and receive relatively little coverage. [Gun Violence Archive]" https://www.thetrace.org/2021/12/gun-violence-data-stats-2021/

Most illegal uses of firearms occur with those who already illegally possess firearms.

Yet the Media always point to outliers, the rare "crazy person with a gun," preferably "White racist" narrative as the greatest threat and the reason for increased gun control. (They mean disarmament.)
 
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Billy Chang: Pastor Attacked Gunman in Laguna Woods Church Shooting

Billy Chang was a pastor who helped to subdue the gunman in the Laguna Woods church shooting. One person was killed and five others were injured during a luncheon for the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church at Geneva Presbyterian Church in California.

The suspect, who is in custody, has not been identified. The victims’ names have also not been released. KTAR identified Chang as the pastor who was being honored at the luncheon.

Chang hit the gunman on the head with a chair while the suspect paused to reload his weapons, Jerry Chen, a longtime congregant, told KTAR News. Chen, 72, said others moved in to disarm the suspect, tackle him and tie him up with extension cords.

“It was amazing how brave (Chang) and the others were,” Chen told KTAR. “This is just so sad. I never, ever thought something like this would happen in my church, in my community.”

 

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The Orange County Sheriff’s Office identified the injured victims in a news release as a 66-year-old male, a 92-year-old male, an 82-year-old male, a 75-year-old male and an 86-year-old female, all of Asian decent.

Undersheriff Jeff Hallock told the OC Register that many of the people who were in the church at the time of the shooting were of Taiwanese descent. The Irvine Taiwanese Church website says they meet at Geneva Presbyterian Church. Hallock confirmed during a press conference a luncheon was being held at the church following services.

Hallock hailed the intervening churchgoers who detained and disarmed the suspect for their “extreme heroism and bravery.”

The Presbytery of Los Ranchos said in a statement to the Orange County Register that it is “deeply saddened by a fatal shooting that occurred at a lunch reception honoring a former pastor of the Taiwanese congregation that nests at Geneva Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods … Please keep the leadership of the Taiwanese congregation and Geneva in your prayers as they care for the those traumatized by this shooting.”

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No red herring.

Just yesterday Donald Trump made hay of a mass murder death kill shooting that had just taken place moments before he went on stage at a rally and he used that event, while the blood was still warm, in Buffalo, to promote himself and what an alleged great person he was in allegedly getting the Taliban to stop killing Americans.

Certainly Donny could use this shooting to pump up his ego as well.

I mean, he liked beating the heathens from the square, so to speak, so he could photo shoot with a bible in front of that D.C. church.

Why wouldn't he want to use a church shooting to pump his big orange ego?
Trump is a black hole of need
 

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anyone hear who the victim was?

i did hear that the minister hit the gunman with a chair while he was reloading. not sure how much ammo his weapon could hold.
 

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Wasn’t that vague in NYC when they literally hunting after a black male

But, once he was in custody, race became a non-issue. This is despite his anti-White rants. I checked a dozen stories on the Brooklyn subway shooting. None mentioned the race of the victims. However, from the photos of the injured on the subway platform, they were ALL non-Black. So Yes, White Racist is news, Black Racist is buried by Manhattan Media. Nothing to see here folks!
 

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Exactly.

There are over 333 million Americans at last count. https://www.census.gov/popclock/

Anywhere from 81 - 100 million of those (depending on which sources you believe) legally own firearms. https://americangunfacts.com/gun-ownership-statistics/

An unknown number also illegally own firearms.

There were 693 "mass shootings" in 2021.

They claimed 702 lives and 2,844 injured.

"Though mass public shootings like the Boulder, Colorado, supermarket shooting; the metro Atlanta spa shootings; and the San Jose transit shooting garnered intense media attention, most mass shootings disproportionately affect Black and brown communities and receive relatively little coverage. [Gun Violence Archive]" https://www.thetrace.org/2021/12/gun-violence-data-stats-2021/

Most illegal uses of firearms occur with those who already illegally possess firearms.

Yet the Media always point to outliers, the rare "crazy person with a gun," preferably "White racist" narrative as the greatest threat and the reason for increased gun control. (They mean disarmament.)
Such is the coverage you get when you have dishonest, politically driven, left leaning 'news' (political propaganda) media. If the story doesn't fit the desired / preferred political narrative, it's buried / minimal coverage, and soon forgotten.

What is surprising is ho many seem to simply accept such due to political confirmation bias.
 

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Because it's a DIFFERENT story?
Let's stay on topic yeah?
Is it, really?

Since when did folks using a mass shooting to further their particular agenda not fall under the big umbrella for being the same old story each and every time a mass shooting happens?
 

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Multiple victims were reported in a church shooting in Orange County, California, on Sunday, and a person was in custody in connection with the attack, authorities said.

The Orange County Sheriff's Department reported the shooting on its Twitter account at 2 p.m. It said the shooting was reported at a church in the city of Laguna Woods, a retirement community in the south portion of the county.

The Orange County Fire Authority didn't immediately respond to a request for information.

On Twitter the agency said it was "treating and transporting multiple patients."

There are multiple churches in the general area.

Laguna Woods and Laguna Woods Village are relatively exclusive communities for people 55 and older and their companions or loved ones. Large parts of it are gated.

The sheriff's department urged patience as its deputies worked at the scene.

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.

The response from "the public leaders of The Right"
"In this time of national sadness, let us not be distracted with petty bickering over minor matters."​
The response from "The voters for The Right"
"Oh, another of those terrible _[fill in the blank]_ got _[fill in the blank]_, well they shouldn't have _[fill in the blank]_ in the first place and it wouldn't have happened if there had been _[fill in the blank with "carrying a gun" or other silly statement]_ - Honey, when does ' Blooper Highlights from Survivors of Dancing with the Stars of the NASCAR-WWF Monster Truck and Tractor Pull Mud Wrestling Wet Tee Shirt Contest' come on?".​
 

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According to all reports a "suspect" has been disarmed and taken into custody.

I wonder who it was, and what the motive is this time.
Why that's an easy one.

"The alleged perpetrator 'had issues' and used his Second Amendment right in the exercise of his First Amendment right to freely express those issues."
 

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The Houston shooting appears to be gang related:​

2 dead, 3 hurt in shooting at Houston flea market​

Two people are dead and three others are hurt from a shooting at a Houston flea market, where thousands of people were shopping on a busy Sunday, the Harris County Sheriff's Office said.

The shooting appeared to stem from an altercation between five men, according to the sheriff's office.

Two died on scene and three men were hospitalized in critical condition, the sheriff's office said.

No innocent bystanders were hurt, authorities said.

A fine example of "alternate dispute resolution methods engaged in by independently financed, self-employed, entrepreneurial capitalists in the service and entertainment industry"?
 

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I'm wondering if the gunman was upset over Biden's high inflation causing food prices to go up, like on Tiawan rice for instance, and took his anger out on his fellow congregation.
 

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Exactly.

There are over 333 million Americans at last count. https://www.census.gov/popclock/

Anywhere from 81 - 100 million of those (depending on which sources you believe) legally own firearms. https://americangunfacts.com/gun-ownership-statistics/

An unknown number also illegally own firearms.

There were 693 "mass shootings" in 2021.

They claimed 702 lives and 2,844 injured.

"Though mass public shootings like the Boulder, Colorado, supermarket shooting; the metro Atlanta spa shootings; and the San Jose transit shooting garnered intense media attention, most mass shootings disproportionately affect Black and brown communities and receive relatively little coverage. [Gun Violence Archive]" https://www.thetrace.org/2021/12/gun-violence-data-stats-2021/

Most illegal uses of firearms occur with those who already illegally possess firearms.

Yet the Media always point to outliers, the rare "crazy person with a gun," preferably "White racist" narrative as the greatest threat and the reason for increased gun control. (They mean disarmament.)
That works out to 1.898630 "mass shootings" per day in the US.

There have been 16 "mass shootings" in Canada since 1885, that works out to 0.0003221 per day.

There was 1 "mass shooting" in Canada in 2021, that works out to 0.00277 per day.

That means that, since the Canadian rate increased by 859.98137% Canada has a worse "mass shooting crisis" than America does, so there is no reason for any American to worry about "mass shootings".

[DATA ANALYSIS provided by the BS (Statistics) program of The University of Numberology through a grant from the American Second Amendment Protection Firearms Manufacturers Council]
 

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I'm wondering if the gunman was upset over Biden's high inflation causing food prices to go up, like on Tiawan rice for instance, and took his anger out on his fellow congregation.
There are, indeed, days when

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is quite appropriate.
 

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So...hate crime?

Dude also had a personality change after a head injury a few years back. He went from a successful and likeable guy to being bitter and paranoid, and apparently living rough.

I suspect it's more of a crazy person crime.
 

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Here is the gunman/shooter...

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