Hicup
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They ought to turn Detroit into a national park, to show our kids the wonders of "Government Help."
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I dunno, if I were an aspiring politician, no matter where I was running for office, I'd make a documentary (not too long winded but just enough for the ill-informed voter to grab a clue) of Detroit, and show people everywhere what happens when liberalism is left untouched. I'd point to it, and say "see.. Damit, see".. Detroit is a gift to conservative politicians. The people of Detroit can't blame ANYONE other than themselves. Republicans', the GOP have nothing to do with what happened in Detroit. Can't blame Bush, can't blame a single republican for that turd! Only Democrats are to blame, and they OWN it incontrovertibly.
Tim-
I just love it how the right libertarians constantly expose their disdain for the common American and in turn favor corporations and the wealthy.
And then you wonder why they cannot even muster 1% in the presidential vote and have to resort to carjacking an established party to get any semblance of power at all. :roll:
Heya LD.....yeah a major City is pretty bad. But don't you worry the Democrats in Illinois are pushing for even a Bigger Slice of the Pie. As they want the State of Illinois to file Bankruptcy.
Heya LD.....yeah a major City is pretty bad. But don't you worry the Democrats in Illinois are pushing for even a Bigger Slice of the Pie. As they want the State of Illinois to file Bankruptcy.
Yes, and when you look at the cost, pensions actually costs the tax payers less. They benefit from the social security money teachers put into the system but will not collect. They benefit when teachers contribute more to the pension system. The important thing is that these pensions need to be be protected from corruption like any system does.
Other countries around the world heavily subsidies their auto industry. They maintain a mix of tariffs and non-tariffs regimes protecting the car industries at significantly higher levels than the US.
....Which?I'd love to know. These ones?
The reality is a simple one. If a state is getting bailed out, the money will come from rich blue states.
What's especially stupid is this "us vs them" mentality with regard to the corporations and the people. What kind of loser isn't connected in some way with corporations in terms of his savings, investments, employment, corporate taxation, or his needs for goods and services? Corporations are the people, or a big part of them.
Oh, I've participated and contributed to social security my entire life. I started working at 16 and entered the teaching field at 25 and have held a second job my entire working history.
Also, did I mention as a survivor I will only be able to collect one third of my husbands social security.
I dunno, if I were an aspiring politician, no matter where I was running for office, I'd make a documentary (not too long winded but just enough for the ill-informed voter to grab a clue) of Detroit, and show people everywhere what happens when liberalism is left untouched. I'd point to it, and say "see.. Damit, see".. Detroit is a gift to conservative politicians. The people of Detroit can't blame ANYONE other than themselves. Republicans', the GOP have nothing to do with what happened in Detroit. Can't blame Bush, can't blame a single republican for that turd! Only Democrats are to blame, and they OWN it incontrovertibly.
Tim-
Here's a shock. Teachers do not put money into Social Security while they're teaching. If they have another career out of the teacher retirement system and have paid into Social Security for the necessary 40 quarters? They get that, too.
Taxpayers need to protect themselves from a public sector pension system that's used to buy votes and campaign contributions all the while saddling The Average Joe with a debt he cannot afford.
Here's a shock. Teachers do not put money into Social Security while they're teaching. If they have another career out of the teacher retirement system and have paid into Social Security for the necessary 40 quarters? They get that, too.
Taxpayers need to protect themselves from a public sector pension system that's used to buy votes and campaign contributions all the while saddling The Average Joe with a debt he cannot afford.
Bull****. The European car market has been free and open for decades. Japan may have limits, but that is about it.
And one of the biggest reasons they did not innovate and the quality of their cars went down was the fact that they had to pay double or triple what their Japanese and European competition had to pay for labor.
There was a lot less money to put into the cars. It was only much later, when the industry in the US was facing collapse, that unions started making concessions.
How is using bankruptcy to overturn union contracts going to win the Dems in Illinois a bigger slice of the pie?
Maggie - I taught for 33 years. I paid into SS all that time.
I understand that but as I stated there are a lot of states that do not have their public employees participating in SS and offer their own pension program. SS was established as a retirement supplement not sole retirement benefits.
My wife has been a teacher for over 26 years and she has never paid into SS. In Illinois they have a Teachers Pension Fund. Nothing is paid into SS.
My wife has been a teacher for over 26 years and she has never paid into SS. In Illinois they have a Teachers Pension Fund. Nothing is paid into SS.
Logical fallacy.I just love it how the right libertarians constantly expose their disdain for the common American and in turn favor corporations and the wealthy.
And then you wonder why they cannot even muster 1% in the presidential vote and have to resort to carjacking an established party to get any semblance of power at all. :roll:
Logical fallacy.
However, many teachers do hold second jobs which do contribute to social security, although, I did work in TN for a short time and those teachers do contribute to both systems.
Maggie - I taught for 33 years. I paid into SS all that time.
An estimated one-half of public school teachers do not participate in Social Security, including a majority to substantially all in California, Connecticut, Illinois, Kentucky, Missouri, and Texas.
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