...The guy in the article I cited also said that state money that was earmarked for Detroit (as every state government has for almost every city) was instead being used to plug gaps in the state budget. I see that point was ignored just so you could rant against "liberals," which is pretty much all you do.
In fact, some were being pushed over the cliff by legislative action," Gilmartin said, citing revenue sharing cuts over the past decade that contributed to growing deficits in Detroit and elsewhere.
"When you take $6 billion that should be going to local units of government over a 10 year period, and you redirect it to plug holes in the state budget, that's a problem
Liberals and Democrats lie, ....
LOL !!
No, the consequence of full blown Liberalism and corruption. Apparently they go hand in hand.
Funny you brought up California. Jerry Brown likes to claim a projected balanced budget, but ignores a unfunded pension fund that by Conservative estimates is unfunded by up to 80 billion dollars.
Just because they've hid their debt doesn't mean they're not far behind Detroit, especially when Californians elect someone like Jerry Brown.
Liberals and Democrats lie, so post your examples of a working Liberal paradise, and hope no one digs in to the reality that most liberal locals are either already too far gone to save or quickly on the way to insolvency.
You CANT build an economy on a public sector while you attack your private sector and expect success.
Look at Greece, its exactly what caused them to go bankrupt.
You're nothing more than a hyperpartisan bombthrower. Conversation over.
You're nothing more than a hyperpartisan bombthrower. Conversation over.
Never mind, of course, that Michigan has a long record of Republican leadership on the state level. Part of Detroit's woes falls on the state, too, unless you're just going to blame Kwame Kilpatrick for EVERYTHING.
That said, if you think the excesses of one particular set of politicians is somehow an indictment of liberal thought, then you're a hopeless partisan and it's useless attempting to engage in reasonable discourse with you.
Yes, California has had some problems
and its been a mixed bag. However if you look at everything overall they have done pretty well, conquering some pretty fierce problems and they are moving in a better direction now. You can only hope they would go bankrupt like Detroit but its not going to happen.
So if you look at Texas... you will see a mixed bag as well. Conditions are favorable for the well to do as well as some of the older folks who have already cut out their living, but everyone else is screwed. Texas ranks poorly in many, many metrics concerning the average citizen.
So what we have is California that tries to create a state that works alright for everyone and is moderately successful, moderately failing.
Texas tries to create a state that works great for those on top and to hell with everyone else they're on their own, and that's what they got.
Am I supposed to be more impressed by the conservative results? Is it really such an achievement to wax the shiny car and make it look good?
Telling the truth isn't partisan bomb throwing.
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This is all doom and gloom. They have a lot of problems but also a lot going for them
as well. Like I said its a mixed bag but it is getting better. They're not going to go bankrupt, lol.
I noticed you just happened to leave out any word about how the people of Texas are doing comparatively. You also didn't comment on the successful "liberal" cities, states and countries.
Is it possible factors other than "liberal" versus "conservative" are more important?
What was that you said earlier Fenton, that you hate Libs and Dems because they... lie?
You took some random low points about California with no sources provided and then compared it to Texas' highlight reel.
You're not interested in an apples to apples comparison? You just want to show one side of an argument? I'm shocked, really.
So business is doing well in Texas but how are the people? You always ignore that, the overall factors that show how well a state is doing instead of just cherry picking what you want to see. Here is a better overall picture...
List of U.S. states by American Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Texas is ranked 38th, yikes. Look at California, 12th, hmmm. Apparently something other than just how much money the rich have is important too huh?
Detroit bankruptcy moves forward as judge rules city can shed debt | Fox News
" Detroit's historic bankruptcy will move forward after a judge ruled Tuesday that the financially crumbling city is eligible to shed billions in debt.
Judge Steven Rhodes turned down objections from unions, pension funds and retirees, which all stand to lose big under any plan to address Detroit's long-term liabilities.
The decision Tuesday was long-awaited, and clears the way for the city to proceed in the largest public bankruptcy in U.S. history.
"This once proud and prosperous city can't pay its debts. It's insolvent. It's eligible for bankruptcy," Rhodes said in announcing his decision. "At the same time, it also has an opportunity for a fresh start."
The plan isn't on the judge's desk yet. The issue for Rhodes, who presided over a nine-day trial, was whether Detroit met specific conditions under federal law to stay in bankruptcy court and turn its finances around after years of mismanagement, chronic population loss and collapse of the middle class.
The city has argued that it needs bankruptcy protection for the sake of beleaguered residents suffering from poor services such as slow to nonexistent police response, darkened streetlights and erratic garbage pickup -- a concern mentioned by the judge during the trial.
Before the July filing, nearly 40 cents of every dollar collected by Detroit was used to pay debt, a figure that could rise to 65 cents without relief through bankruptcy, according to the city. "
Huh ?
I posted numerous examples, plenty of objective data to offer up a comparison and you reply with a Wiki link? Lol !!
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I had a feeling it was a mistake to try and talk
to you. You just want to rant and be dishonest, not going to waste any more time with your nonsense.
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