Dems Still Need to Address Crime

[Cameron]

Election denial and Trumpism were not winning strategies for the GOP in 2022, but crime was. If not for fear of rising crime, Dems likely would have performed better in the Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Ohio senate races. It's the primary if not sole reason NY Dems underperformed nationally, including the loss of Sean Patrick Maloney (the controversial 2019 bail reform remains a huge political issue in this state).

In a year in which democracy is not on the ballot, crime could be a big issue for Democrats, and IMO even if the GOP attacks on crime are generally speaking overblown, it is something that cannot be ignored moving forward to keep voters in the blue column.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

No. They need to address poverty and income inequality. Reduce poverty and crime goes down. It's really just that simple.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Election denial and Trumpism were not winning strategies for the GOP in 2022, but crime was. If not for fear of rising crime, Dems likely would have performed better in the Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Ohio senate races. It's the primary if not sole reason NY Dems underperformed nationally, including the loss of Sean Patrick Maloney (the controversial 2019 bail reform remains a huge political issue in this state).

In a year in which democracy is not on the ballot, crime could be a big issue for Democrats, and IMO even if the GOP attacks on crime are generally speaking overblown, it is something that cannot be ignored moving forward to keep voters in the blue column.

Why would (or should) crime (most of which is violating state laws) now considered to have become a federal government matter? The last thing we need (or I want) is for high crime areas (states, counties and/or cities) to start getting federal financial ‘rewards’ (called aid or block grants) for having high crime rates.

 

[Schism]

No. They need to address poverty and income inequality. Reduce poverty and crime goes down. It's really just that simple.

They have addressed it during their 60 years of inner-city rule and failed. You can't make people want to better themselves, get jobs, learn to read, or quit dealing drugs. Many have escaped the democrat ghettos, and there are millions of stories to show for it.

But those people who did leave made decisions, determined to overcome the obstacles, and are success stories today. The lazy ass bullshitters who quit on life should be cut off. We have no obligation to support bums and thugs.

 

[ttwtt78640]

No. They need to address poverty and income inequality. Reduce poverty and crime goes down. It's really just that simple.

OK, but if it was “just that simple” then why not do so at the state and/or local government level?

 

[TheParser]

Leftist Dems cannot address the problem, for it is simply too hurtful for them.

They cannot and will not admit that there are a lot of very bad people out there who have no compunction about hurting good people (like that traumatized victim pushed off the subway platform).

Leftist Dems insist that those bad people are victims of an unjust society or are mentally ill. They support no bail laws because they feel it's unfair to keep poor people -- no matter how vicious they are -- locked up. Better to let them roam the streets and hurt more good people.

Things will change only if an important Dem politician (or family member or friend) is the victim of street violence. But that will never happen, for Dem bleeding hearts make sure they personally have security around them. (For example, that obnoxious AOC has just told us when she goes for a walk with her dog, her boyfriend always accompanies her because she fears someone might want to harm her.)

 

[ttwtt78640]

Leftist Dems cannot address the problem, for it is simply too hurtful for them.

They cannot and will not admit that there are a lot of very bad people out there who have no compunction about hurting good people (like that traumatized victim pushed off the subway platform).

Leftist Dems insist that those bad people are victims of an unjust society or are mentally ill. They support no bail laws because they feel it's unfair to keep poor people -- no matter how vicious they are -- locked up. Better to let them roam the streets and hurt more good people.

Things will change only if an important Dem politician (or family member or friend) is the victim of street violence. But that will never happen, for Dem bleeding hearts make sure they personally have security around them. (For example, that obnoxious AOC has just told us when she goes for a walk with her dog, her boyfriend always accompanies her because she fears someone might want to harm her.)

That’s why they typically deflect to the need to solve the ‘root causes’ of crime (propose rainbows and unicorn social programs under which crime would surely disappear ‘naturally’), rather than seek to *gasp* deal ‘too harshly’ with those who currently commit crime.

Of course, these fix the ’root causes’ programs must be federally funded - since state and/or local governments ‘lack resources’ to fund them by borrowing or printing the required funds.

 

[Schism]

Things will change only if an important Dem politician (or family member or friend) is the victim of street violence. But that will never happen, for Dem bleeding hearts make sure they personally have security around them. (For example, that obnoxious AOC has just told us when she goes for a walk with her dog, her boyfriend always accompanies her because she fears someone might want to harm her.)

AOC is a member of the privileged Democrat class that employs private security at public expense to keep their constituents far away from them.

 

[Citizen]

AOC is a member of the privileged Democrat class that employs private security at public expense to keep their constituents far away from them.

What exactly is a privileged democrat class. Private security is available to all in congress including MTG. Are you saying that since she is a democrat, she should not have the same security as the republicans in office?. I am not sure where you are going with this

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Look, the solution is simple: build more jails, put more people in jail.
In 2021, the violent crime rate in the United States was 395.7 cases per 100,000 of the population. Even though the violent crime rate has been decreasing since 1990, the United States tops the ranking of countries with the most prisoners.

Reported violent crime rate in the U.S. 2022 | Statista

In 2022, the violent crime rate in the United States was 369.8 cases per 100,000 of the population.

www.statista.com

See how easy the solution is? Just ask a conservative. They will tell you.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

What exactly is a privileged democrat class. Private security is available to all in congress including MTG. Are you saying that since she is a democrat, she should not have the same security as the republicans in office?. I am not sure where you are going with this

You aren't sure where he is going with this? IN CIRCLES

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Election denial and Trumpism were not winning strategies for the GOP in 2022, but crime was. If not for fear of rising crime, Dems likely would have performed better in the Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Ohio senate races. It's the primary if not sole reason NY Dems underperformed nationally, including the loss of Sean Patrick Maloney (the controversial 2019 bail reform remains a huge political issue in this state).

In a year in which democracy is not on the ballot, crime could be a big issue for Democrats, and IMO even if the GOP attacks on crime are generally speaking overblown, it is something that cannot be ignored moving forward to keep voters in the blue column.

Guess what?

This year democracy was (and still is) on the ballot. Everyone knew that long before Election Day. Fearing a loss of democracy has been more important than reducing crime every day of the Joe Biden administration because that almost happened 2 weeks before his inauguration - not to a few people, but to most people who are not election deniers.

 

[mrjurrs]

Election denial and Trumpism were not winning strategies for the GOP in 2022, but crime was. If not for fear of rising crime, Dems likely would have performed better in the Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Ohio senate races. It's the primary if not sole reason NY Dems underperformed nationally, including the loss of Sean Patrick Maloney (the controversial 2019 bail reform remains a huge political issue in this state).

In a year in which democracy is not on the ballot, crime could be a big issue for Democrats, and IMO even if the GOP attacks on crime are generally speaking overblown, it is something that cannot be ignored moving forward to keep voters in the blue column.

The crime issue, while real, was closer to the caravan fearmongering than true.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

OK, but if it was “just that simple” then why not do so at the state and/or local government level?

I believe they are trying.

Do you have better ideas?

 

[multivita-man]

No. They need to address poverty and income inequality. Reduce poverty and crime goes down. It's really just that simple.

They need to address crime, but the way to address it is by reminding people which party is putting gun into the hands of violent criminals.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

They need to address crime, but the way to address it is by reminding people which party is putting gun into the hands of violent criminals.

That's not a bad idea either.

 

[multivita-man]

AOC is a member of the privileged Democrat class that employs private security at public expense to keep their constituents far away from them.

I'm guessing these are contractors, which is a very common practice. Even if that's not what's happening, they're basically functioning like contractors, which Republicans have never had a problem with. In fact they push for outsourcing and replacing federal workers with private contractors every chance they get. So, nothing burger it is.

But no it's not to keep her constituents away from her - she regularly visits her constituents in person. It's the conservative perverts who stalk her and call her a big booty Latina.

 

[bongsaway]

OK, but if it was “just that simple” then why not do so at the state and/or local government level?

Since when do republican politicians at any level want to raise taxes to take care of their local problems? It's much easier to blame the dems for everything.

 

[bongsaway]

AOC is a member of the privileged Democrat class that employs private security at public expense to keep their constituents far away from them.

Is there something wrong with taking precautions? Isn't that what gun folks say they are doing?

 

[bongsaway]

I believe they are trying.

Do you have better ideas?

Ideas, hell no, they have complaints.

 

[Cardinal]

They have addressed it during their 60 years of inner-city rule and failed. You can't make people want to better themselves, get jobs, learn to read, or quit dealing drugs. Many have escaped the democrat ghettos, and there are millions of stories to show for it.

But those people who did leave made decisions, determined to overcome the obstacles, and are success stories today. The lazy ass bullshitters who quit on life should be cut off. We have no obligation to support bums and thugs.

Crime is affecting everywhere, nearly equally. I don't know why, exactly, but I suspect it has something to do with a synthetic methamphetamine that's far more addicting and destructive than its predecessor, and it's everywhere.

‘I Don’t Know That I Would Even Call It Meth Anymore’

Different chemically than it was a decade ago, the drug is creating a wave of severe mental illness and worsening America’s homelessness problem.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Patriotic Voter]

They need to address crime, but the way to address it is by reminding people which party is putting gun into the hands of violent criminals.

Step 1 is almost done. We have only one more election to worry about (the Georgia runoff on December 6) and a lot of money has been poured into Raphael Warnock's campaign for Round 2.

After January 3, when all 535 members of Congress will be sworn in, Step 2 can begin with the gun control legislation we have been waiting for. However, Republicans would block any attempt to raise the minimum age to 21, increase background checks, and prevent private citizens from buying military style firearms. They have done that already. So what the Democrats should do is support red flag laws that result in high-risk people going to mental health facilities instead of prisons.

 

[uptower]

Now the Republicans have congress maybe they can tear themselves away from trans kids and hunter's laptop for a moment and help out...

 

[Mustachio]

Election denial and Trumpism were not winning strategies for the GOP in 2022, but crime was. If not for fear of rising crime, Dems likely would have performed better in the Wisconsin, North Carolina, and Ohio senate races. It's the primary if not sole reason NY Dems underperformed nationally, including the loss of Sean Patrick Maloney (the controversial 2019 bail reform remains a huge political issue in this state).

In a year in which democracy is not on the ballot, crime could be a big issue for Democrats, and IMO even if the GOP attacks on crime are generally speaking overblown, it is something that cannot be ignored moving forward to keep voters in the blue column.

what crime?

republicans are afraid of the m13 gangs squatting in the abandoned section 13 housing near them? crime was far worse in 2020 and republicans main voting interest was making the supreme court conservative forever. the don't care at all about crime, they aren't victims of crime and they talk about crime as a dog whistle to dehumanize black people

and no, the reason dems underperformed is because they spent no money in ny, wi was gerrymandered, the dnc called mandela barnes too black -- i mean liberal! beto received $0 fed funding. and the polls were fake, depressing voting. add gerrymandering and hello fascism!

 

[EMNofSeattle]

No. They need to address poverty and income inequality. Reduce poverty and crime goes down. It's really just that simple.

No, it’s not that simple. First off because the democrats don’t plan to reduce poverty in any actual way, in fact their policies on energy and economy will create far more poverty, and not only will they create more poverty, but they plan on importing more impoverished people from the third world, but even on those terms, people do not commit crime because of poverty.