Democrats Plan Symbolic Votes Against Iraq Plan (1 Viewer)

[CurrentAffairs]

So after the historic election, this is what the democrats outrage will amount to - symbolism. :lol:

In both chambers, Democrats made clear that the resolutions — which would do nothing in practical terms to block Mr. Bush’s intention to increase the United States military presence in Iraq — would be the minimum steps they would pursue.

How funny.

Democrats Plan Symbolic Votes Against Iraq Plan - New York Times

 

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So after the historic election, this is what the democrats outrage will amount to - symbolism. :lol:

In both chambers, Democrats made clear that the resolutions — which would do nothing in practical terms to block Mr. Bush’s intention to increase the United States military presence in Iraq — would be the minimum steps they would pursue.

How funny.

Democrats Plan Symbolic Votes Against Iraq Plan - New York Times

Why don't you tell us what they CAN do, which should NOT be based on theory--what would our Constitution allow Congress to do in these circumstances? Enlighten me.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Why don't you tell us what they CAN do, which should NOT be based on theory--what would our Constitution allow Congress to do in these circumstances? Enlighten me.

Nothing. There is only one Commander-in-Chief. Now tell us what the cute symbolic thing will do.

 

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Nothing. There is only one Commander-in-Chief. Now tell us what the cute symbolic thing will do.

Show the people that Congress took their message seriously.

 

[Goobieman]

Show the people that Congress took their message seriously.

How does action without substance do this?

Congress CAN keep the Presdient from sending more troops, and Congress CAN force the Presdent to bring home the troops that are already there -- but they dare not do so, because they know that the American people, however they may have voted, will not stand for it.

 

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How does action without substance do this?

Congress CAN keep the Presdient from sending more troops, and Congress CAN force the Presdent to bring home the troops that are already there -- but they dare not do so, because they know that the American people, however they may have voted, will not stand for it.

I am not sure what Congress is truly capable of doing, so I can't speak intelligently on this. I would like to see Congress do something, but do it responsibly. Pulling out the troops now isn't responsible, and the Democrats know that.

 

[Goobieman]

I am not sure what Congress is truly capable of doing, so I can't speak intelligently on this. I would like to see Congress do something, but do it responsibly. Pulling out the troops now isn't responsible, and the Democrats know that.

The only way Congress can legislatively force the troops out or stop more troops from going over is to refuse to fund them.

The Dems won't touch that -- and so the people that (supposedly) voted them into office are going to have to settle for "protest votes" such as we wee here.

 

[Cremaster77]

There is a big difference between calling for the troops to come home and cutting off funding while troops are still there. Cutting off funding can certainly be perceived as putting the troops in harms way. Bring them home takes them out of harms way. Although some may argue that these are the same thing, politically, they are very different beasts, and it's fallacy to say that because Dems want to do one, they should be willing to the other.

 

[Goobieman]

There is a big difference between calling for the troops to come home and cutting off funding while troops are still there. Cutting off funding can certainly be perceived as putting the troops in harms way. Bring them home takes them out of harms way. Although some may argue that these are the same thing, politically, they are very different beasts, and it's fallacy to say that because Democrats want to do one, they should be willing to the other.

We've been told that the dems were elected to Congress because the American people are tired of the war and want the troops to come home.

Assuming that Bush plans to stay - and apparently he does -- how can congress bring the troops home, if not to cut funding?