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Democrats need to preserve their economic gains and dump social issues talk (1 Viewer)

2020 was a poisoned chalice. It seems any Democrat in 2020 would have lost in 2024. COVID wrecked America. Trump wanted to return, the economy is his now. He has to lower grocery prices by September. If prices are still high, then he and Republicans will be blown out in 2026.

President is a thankless job.

He will raise prices through his stupid tariffs. All prices, not just groceries.

Americans are quickly going to learn how good they had it under President Biden.
 
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Democratic presidents have been better for the American economy since 1992.......yes Biden may have screwed up with inflation, but the 2024 election should have been a Democratic victory. A morally bankrupt person like Trump shouldn't have won again.
Well he was running against an appointee that nobody wanted. Harris was not Bill Clinton or Barack Obama or even Hillary Clinton. She didn't win a primary in fact when she ran into primary she didn't get a single delegate. No party openly rejected her.

So it was profoundly stupid to run her.
2000 was a missed opportunity, the economy was better then than now. 2016 was a possible backlash against the first Black president......
I don't think it was backlash against the first black president because Donald Trump was running against Obama. He was running against Hillary someone who's qualification was she married some guy that was president.
In 2000, 2016 and 2024, instead of the economic gains made by Democrats, they pivoted to social issues talk (guns, Amadou Diallo, BLM, abortion). It turns off swing voters, who then vote Republican.
Well I think it was a dumb idea for the Democrats not to condemn BLM. And to be opposed to the Constitution.

None of them can do anything about abortion if they wanted to. That would be strictly in the hands of Congress. All they can do is say that I won't veto or I won't sign a bill presented regarding abortion and that's it.
Simple as that.
I think you have a point here I think the social issues are secondary to economic ones. And since so many people were lying to us about the economy we all buy groceries we all buy gasoline we're all driving old cars so we know about the economy. So having a billionaire tell me about it and what they're going to do to make things worse for me is probably not the best idea.
 
Fairly or unfairly, presidents get the blame for the economy. Yes, Biden may have not caused it, but he could have done more to tame inflation down....it cost Harris the election.
Presidents get more blame for the economy than is correct, but government policies do have a big effect. The topic wasn't the economy, it was inflation. Biden had essentially nothing to do with high inflation happening, and to repeat, he did take steps that helps get it to low levels. You make baseless assertions he could have done more and that it decided the election.
 
I agree, Trump was the first republican president since Reagan, 1980 and 84 to win the working class or the blue collar workers. Trump came within 5 points of winning union households.
Every union member who voted for him was and probably is hopelessly duped. I hope that some of them pull themselves out of that. However, it's not up to me to do it.
 
Presidents get more blame for the economy than is correct, but government policies do have a big effect. The topic wasn't the economy, it was inflation. Biden had essentially nothing to do with high inflation happening, and to repeat, he did take steps that helps get it to low levels. You make baseless assertions he could have done more and that it decided the election.
He was blamed for it by white working class youth and white men. He was blamed and Kamala took the blame for it in the polls. Simple as that.
 
He was blamed for it by white working class youth and white men. He was blamed and Kamala took the blame for it in the polls. Simple as that.
That doesn't address your previously wrong statements. Yes, the Republican attacks succeeded in getting many to fall for them.
 
That doesn't address your previously wrong statements. Yes, the Republican attacks succeeded in getting many to fall for them.
Biden did not address it enough. He could have explained what the Inflation Act was about, he could have told the DOJ to investigate price gouging and corporate greed.
 
Biden tamed inflation while avoiding recession – something the vast majority of economists did not think possible in 2021. It was nothing short of a miracle. The economy is now crushing it by just about any parameter: consumer purchasing power, unemployment, DOW, GDP, etc…

Biden was like a highly skilled surgeon who saved the life of a patient by performing a complex emergency surgery during a major crisis. America is like the patient who is now cussing him out because the incision site’s still a little sore, and turning to a witch doctor.
We trust the greatest nation in history to dumb voters...................but we'll survive
 
Biden did not address it enough. He could have explained what the Inflation Act was about, he could have told the DOJ to investigate price gouging and corporate greed.
You're confusing facts with Republican propaganda. It's down to 2.5%. Republican propaganda lies about that.
 
You're confusing facts with Republican propaganda. It's down to 2.5%. Republican propaganda lies about that.
Biden and Harris should have screamed that to the public. They didn't. Instead she talked about abortion and democracy, while yes those are important, the economy comes No. 1.

He was arrogant and selfish. He shouldn't have run again.
 
Not Bernie, probably, IMO.
Bernie won't have won because he is Jewish.

Americans don't trust Jewish candidates. It's a reason why Al Gore lost in 2000, because Arab voters in Michigan though Al Gore and his running mate, Joe Lieberman was too Israel-centric.
 
Biden and Harris should have screamed that to the public. They didn't. Instead she talked about abortion and democracy, while yes those are important, the economy comes No. 1.

The Republicans have the billions of dollar propaganda machine, Democrats don't, and so Democrats aren't heard nearly as much with the truth to counter the lies.

He was arrogant and selfish. He shouldn't have run again.

Separate topic that's debatable. The real issue is that the party shouldn't have blocked Bernie in 2020, and he'd be re-inaugurated tomorrow probably.
 
Bernie won't have won because he is Jewish.

Disagree. In addition, Bernie is among the few NOT owned by the rogue state, which 80% of Congress and all presidential nominees are.
 
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Democratic presidents have been better for the American economy since 1992.......yes Biden may have screwed up with inflation, but the 2024 election should have been a Democratic victory. A morally bankrupt person like Trump shouldn't have won again.

2000 was a missed opportunity, the economy was better then than now. 2016 was a possible backlash against the first Black president......

In 2000, 2016 and 2024, instead of the economic gains made by Democrats, they pivoted to social issues talk (guns, Amadou Diallo, BLM, abortion). It turns off swing voters, who then vote Republican.

Simple as that.
I'm a lifelong Democrat. I don't buy this. Cultural issues were not the reason we lost the election. It was the economy and Biden's ****up in not announcing he would be a one-term president from Day 1 of his term.
 
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Democratic presidents have been better for the American economy since 1992.......yes Biden may have screwed up with inflation, but the 2024 election should have been a Democratic victory. A morally bankrupt person like Trump shouldn't have won again.

2000 was a missed opportunity, the economy was better then than now. 2016 was a possible backlash against the first Black president......

In 2000, 2016 and 2024, instead of the economic gains made by Democrats, they pivoted to social issues talk (guns, Amadou Diallo, BLM, abortion). It turns off swing voters, who then vote Republican.

Simple as that.
I don't disagree with that, BUT to do so you'd potentially lose a part of your base that has been VERY vocal (and likely voting) the last 4-8 years
 
I don't disagree with that, BUT to do so you'd potentially lose a part of your base that has been VERY vocal (and likely voting) the last 4-8 years
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Guess they’re going to see how well they fare under Trump 2.0 and a MAGA Congress - both highly under the influence of some of the most powerful and wealthy billionaires ever in existence 🤷‍♀️
 
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Democratic presidents have been better for the American economy since 1992.......yes Biden may have screwed up with inflation, but the 2024 election should have been a Democratic victory. A morally bankrupt person like Trump shouldn't have won again.

2000 was a missed opportunity, the economy was better then than now. 2016 was a possible backlash against the first Black president......

In 2000, 2016 and 2024, instead of the economic gains made by Democrats, they pivoted to social issues talk (guns, Amadou Diallo, BLM, abortion). It turns off swing voters, who then vote Republican.

Simple as that.
Democrats need to grow a pair and start fighting.
 
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Guess they’re going to see how well they fare under Trump 2.0 and a MAGA Congress - both highly under the influence of some of the most powerful and wealthy billionaires ever in existence 🤷‍♀️
Guess you don't have a position that focusing on social issues hurt the Democrats?
 
Guess you don't have a position that focusing on social issues hurt the Democrats?
I’m of the position that in general, our electorate are at best…uninformed.
 
I’m of the position that in general, our electorate are at best…uninformed.
I guess I will have to be satisfied with non answers. Heaven forbid you say the Democrats did anything wrong, or focused on the wrong things.
 
You're confusing facts with Republican propaganda. It's down to 2.5%. Republican propaganda lies about that.
1.4% when Joe took office. And peaked at 9% due to his actions.
 
Disagree. In addition, Bernie is among the few NOT owned by the rogue state, which 80% of Congress and all presidential nominees are.
Ah, your hatred of Israel comes to the surface.
 
It doesn't matter. Ever since the 80's, the Republicans have convinced the general public that they are stronger on the economy.

Reality is irrelevant, since it's been so ingrained into the public consciousness.
 

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