Democrats Destroy Their Credibility In Record Time (1 Viewer)

[aquapub]

Somewhere between

-Democrats proposing blatantly unconstitutional legislation trying to take executive military powers from the president (1) to prevent the troop surge Democrats have been demanding for years now (2,3,4),

-the "Republican culture of corruption" we've heard so much about from Democrats with cash in their freezers, extensively linked to Jack Abramoff like Harry Reid (5),

-the bi-partisan rhetoric the preceeded Democrats shutting out everyone who disagrees with them (6),

-and the claim that Democrats will represent the working middle class despite their proposals set to raise their gas prices, kill their jobs, and create rampant inflation (7, 8), I think Democrats have managed to discredit themselves in record time.


SOURCES:

1) "In the Senate, Democrat Edward M. Kennedy has sponsored legislation to require Bush to get congressional approval before sending more troops to Iraq."

Bush set to announce troop buildup plans


2) "House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said the killings proved there are not enough U.S. troops in Iraq to stabilize the country."

The San Francisco Chronicle. APRIL 2, 2004. Pg. A1. "U.S. vows to punish Fallujah attackers."


3) "Rumsfeld ignored military experts when he rushed to war without enough troops."-Harry Reid

Daily News (New York). August 30, 2006. Pg. 8. "RUMMY TIES WAR FOES TO APPEASERS OF THE NAZIS."


4) "When we send our young men and women into harm's way, we have a solemn obligation...to never, ever go to war without enough troops to win the war..."-John Kerry

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Pennsylvania). July 28, 2004. Pg.A-1. HEINZ KERRY CENTER STAGE; TELLS CROWD AT CONVENTION HER HUSBAND IS A 'FIGHTER.'

5) "Abramoff didn't work just with Republicans...Among the biggest beneficiaries [was] Harry Reid."

Democrats Also Got Tribal Donations


6) "Democrats To Start Without GOP Input."

Democrats To Start Without GOP Input - washingtonpost.com

7)

Dems Take Aim at Oil Company Tax Breaks - washingtonpost.com

8)

BostonHerald.com - National Politics: Pelosi to fast-track minimum wage bill

 

[shuamort]

C'mon aquapub, be realistic. For them to destroy their credibility they would have had to have it in the first place.

 

[aquapub]

C'mon aquapub, be realistic. For them to destroy their credibility they would have had to have it in the first place.

When Nancy Pelosi and her fellow Democrats freaked out about Dennis Hastert not being psychic enough to know about another Congressman sending dirty emails, conservatives pointed out the Democrat party's long history of rewarding, protecting predators, and even giving a standing ovation and a promotion to a congressman caught having sex with a teenage boy (studds).

Their response?

That was a different Congress (even though the current Democrat leadership was there and participated).

I'm just playing along with the "judge the new Congress by their own actions" game.

 

[Morty]

When Nancy Pelosi and her fellow Democrats freaked out about Dennis Hastert not being psychic enough to know about another Congressman sending dirty emails,

There is plenty of information suggesting that quite a few of Mr. Foley's fellow Congressmen were quite aware of this little habit of his.

Both parties are full of sick freaks, really. Let's not split hairs over that.

 

[Navy Pride]

The biggest joke of all about the dems is they said when they took over the congress would work a full 5 day work week and in their very first week in chatge they took off Monday........HYPOCRITES!!!!!

 

[hipsterdufus]

The biggest joke of all about the Democrats is they said when they took over the congress would work a full 5 day work week and in their very first week in chatge they took off Monday........HYPOCRITES!!!!!

So the Dems institute a 5 day work week - and you're complaining about it.

The last congress worked less than 100 days in 2006.

Silly thread....

 

[hipsterdufus]

Somewhere between

-Democrats proposing blatantly unconstitutional legislation trying to take executive military powers from the president (1) to prevent the troop surge Democrats have been demanding for years now (2,3,4),

-the "Republican culture of corruption" we've heard so much about from Democrats with cash in their freezers, extensively linked to Jack Abramoff like Harry Reid (5),

-the bi-partisan rhetoric the preceeded Democrats shutting out everyone who disagrees with them (6),

-and the claim that Democrats will represent the working middle class despite their proposals set to raise their gas prices, kill their jobs, and create rampant inflation (7, 8), I think Democrats have managed to discredit themselves in record time.


SOURCES:

1) "In the Senate, Democrat Edward M. Kennedy has sponsored legislation to require Bush to get congressional approval before sending more troops to Iraq."

Bush set to announce troop buildup plans


2) "House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said the killings proved there are not enough U.S. troops in Iraq to stabilize the country."

The San Francisco Chronicle. APRIL 2, 2004. Pg. A1. "U.S. vows to punish Fallujah attackers."


3) "Rumsfeld ignored military experts when he rushed to war without enough troops."-Harry Reid

Daily News (New York). August 30, 2006. Pg. 8. "RUMMY TIES WAR FOES TO APPEASERS OF THE NAZIS."


4) "When we send our young men and women into harm's way, we have a solemn obligation...to never, ever go to war without enough troops to win the war..."-John Kerry

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Pennsylvania). July 28, 2004. Pg.A-1. HEINZ KERRY CENTER STAGE; TELLS CROWD AT CONVENTION HER HUSBAND IS A 'FIGHTER.'

5) "Abramoff didn't work just with Republicans...Among the biggest beneficiaries [was] Harry Reid."

Democrats Also Got Tribal Donations


6) "Democrats To Start Without GOP Input."

Democrats To Start Without GOP Input - washingtonpost.com

7)

Dems Take Aim at Oil Company Tax Breaks - washingtonpost.com

8)

BostonHerald.com - National Politics: Pelosi to fast-track minimum wage bill

Kerry and Pelosi was indeed calling for more troops BACK IN 2003 & 2004. Shinsecki said we needed 250,000 and was let go before the war ever beagan.

Bush's latest stunt is too little too late.

 

[Iriemon]

Somewhere between

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And when, to you, was it that the Democrats had any credibility to begin with?

 

[Navy Pride]

So the Democrats institute a 5 day work week - and you're complaining about it.

The last congress worked less than 100 days in 2006.

Silly thread....

Hips you need to read what I typed......

 

[Navy Pride]

Kerry and Pelosi was indeed calling for more troops BACK IN 2003 & 2004. Shinsecki said we needed 250,000 and was let go before the war ever beagan.

Bush's latest stunt is too little too late.

Now wait a minute.........that was on Tuesday Kerry was calling for more troops........On Wednesday he was calling for a pull out........

 

[easyt65]

C'mon aquapub, be realistic. For them to destroy their credibility they would have had to have it in the first place.

Yeah! We're talking about a party that has the only 3 Presidents in history to ever be Impeached to brag about, the last one being a documented pathelogically lying sexual predator!

The Current Speaker of the House was exposed as the biggest offender of taking trips paid for by lobbyists after she accused Tom DeLay of doing so ONCE! This is the same woman who said the GOP has a culture of corruption, promised that she would run the cleanest Congress in history, then backed the star of the FBI's ABSCAM Scandal Tapes (saying he would be glad to take a bribe LATER) and an Impeached judge who had been convicted on multiple criminal charges (nominating him as head of the Intel Committee) for critical positions even before she had officially taken over as Speaker of the House. :lol:

I could go on, but why bother?! Credibility?

:rofl

 

[aquapub]

There is plenty of information suggesting that quite a few of Mr. Foley's fellow Congressmen were quite aware of this little habit of his.

Both parties are full of sick freaks, really. Let's not split hairs over that.

There was not one shred of evidence that emerged to suggest that.

 

[aquapub]

Kerry and Pelosi was indeed calling for more troops BACK IN 2003 & 2004. Shinsecki said we needed 250,000 and was let go before the war ever beagan.

Bush's latest stunt is too little too late.

1) Generals who advocated NOT raising troop levels have also been fired by Bush.

2) Nothing has changed about what we need to do to win in Iraq that would make more troops the solution in 2004 but not in 2006 or 2007.

That's simply a lame excuse for another liberal contradiction. :bs

 

[Morty]

Yeah! We're talking about a party that has the only 3 Presidents in history to ever be Impeached to brag about, the last one being a documented pathelogically lying sexual predator!

Erm, three? I know of Andrew Johnson being impeached (During the period when the Democrats were the conservatives, btw) and Bill Clinton. Both of which were acquitted by the Senate (though I think they should have thrown Clinton out - not for the reasons that got him impeached. I don't care about his sexual life, I would prefer some impeachment hearings over Waco where he slaughtered 76 Americans for erm...uh...fun maybe? And plus a whole slew of other issues that are impeach-worthy).
Who was the third?

There was not one shred of evidence that emerged to suggest that.

Keep telling yourself that.

 

[Iriemon]

Erm, three? I know of Andrew Johnson being impeached (During the period when the Democrats were the conservatives, btw) and Bill Clinton. ...Who was the third?

I was wondering that too.

 

[easyt65]

Erm, three? I know of Andrew Johnson being impeached (During the period when the Democrats were the conservatives, btw) and Bill Clinton. Both of which were acquitted by the Senate (though I think they should have thrown Clinton out - not for the reasons that got him impeached. I don't care about his sexual life, I would prefer some impeachment hearings over Waco where he slaughtered 76 Americans for erm...uh...fun maybe? And plus a whole slew of other issues that are impeach-worthy).

The source I was looking at counted Nixon. thanks for correcting the facts - only 2 Presidents have ever been Impeached, BOTH DEMOCRATS!

Iam SURE you think Clinton's should have been thrown out, as all Clinton-defenders. Keep telling yourself that it was ONLY his sex scandal that got him removed from office, that it had nothing to do with his felonious perjury under oath and felonious witness tampering in his embarrassing law suit against a sitting President for being a sexual predator, a trial in which he tried to strip anamrican citicen of her Constitutional right to a fair trial, his breach of oath of office, or the fact that afterlying to the world that he was in any way capable to hold any negotiations/talks with any nation as our leader after totally destroying his own credibility on the world's center stage?! Talk about a LAME DUCK President at that point! Yeah, it was a shame that he was not brought up oncharges and sent to jail - his wife too.

I agree there were other Impeach-worthy incidents during his administration as well....like his treason of selling China the missile technology they lacked to have the ability to strike the U.S. with their nukes, the moneyfrom the Chinese military being tracked right to his bank account.

As I said, WHAT credibility?!

 

[Morty]

The source I was looking at counted Nixon.

I would not trust that source again on historical information.

thanks for correcting the facts - only 2 Presidents have ever been Impeached, BOTH DEMOCRATS!

And if you knew anything of political history, you'd be aware that Andrew Johnson was part of the Democratic Party in the 1860s. During that time, the Democrats were the conservatives and the Republicans were the liberals. They switched positions around the time of the reforms of FDR, though the Democrats had been splitting for some time before that in the realm of conservativism verses liberalism. Trying to make a judgment on a political party based on how it was a century and a half ago is absurd and makes it seem like you can't find more modern examples. The Democrats are flush with crappiness from the last few decades, why go back to Andrew Johnson for your arguments?

Iam SURE you think Clinton's should have been thrown out, as all Clinton-defenders.

You clearly don't know my positions very well, nor my politics. I consider Clinton the 3rd WORST President since World War Two (beaten out by our current Bush and LBJ) and certainly one of the worst of all time.

Keep telling yourself that it was ONLY his sex scandal that got him removed from office, that it had nothing to do with his felonious perjury under oath and felonious witness tampering in his embarrassing law suit against a sitting President for being a sexual predator, a trial in which he tried to strip anamrican citicen of her Constitutional right to a fair trial, his breach of oath of office, or the fact that afterlying to the world that he was in any way capable to hold any negotiations/talks with any nation as our leader after totally destroying his own credibility on the world's center stage?!

The main point that is brought up is his sexual deviancy and the fact that he lied about it. His Constitutional violations and his killing of American citizens on various occassions are what I consider the reasons that he should have been thrown out. These same reasons are major ones that make me want Bush out of office. Just as I would have wanted LBJ out, and many others who committed grevious violations to the Constitution and/or killed many Americans.

Talk about a LAME DUCK President at that point! Yeah, it was a shame that he was not brought up oncharges and sent to jail - his wife too.

If only, if only. It will never happen though, even if you somehow convict him, he'll get pardoned by his fellow criminals in Washington.

I agree there were other Impeach-worthy incidents during his administration as well....like his treason of selling China the missile technology they lacked to have the ability to strike the U.S. with their nukes, the moneyfrom the Chinese military being tracked right to his bank account.

I wasn't aware of that incident, but yes, that is impeach-worthy as well.

As I said, WHAT credibility?!

There isn't any, but don't pretend like the Republicans are swimming in credibility either.

 

[dragonslayer]

Somewhere between

-Democrats proposing blatantly unconstitutional legislation trying to take executive military powers from the president (1) to prevent the troop surge Democrats have been demanding for years now (2,3,4),

-the "Republican culture of corruption" we've heard so much about from Democrats with cash in their freezers, extensively linked to Jack Abramoff like Harry Reid (5),

-the bi-partisan rhetoric the preceeded Democrats shutting out everyone who disagrees with them (6),

-and the claim that Democrats will represent the working middle class despite their proposals set to raise their gas prices, kill their jobs, and create rampant inflation (7, 8), I think Democrats have managed to discredit themselves in record time.


SOURCES:

1) "In the Senate, Democrat Edward M. Kennedy has sponsored legislation to require Bush to get congressional approval before sending more troops to Iraq."

Bush set to announce troop buildup plans


2) "House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, said the killings proved there are not enough U.S. troops in Iraq to stabilize the country."

The San Francisco Chronicle. APRIL 2, 2004. Pg. A1. "U.S. vows to punish Fallujah attackers."


3) "Rumsfeld ignored military experts when he rushed to war without enough troops."-Harry Reid

Daily News (New York). August 30, 2006. Pg. 8. "RUMMY TIES WAR FOES TO APPEASERS OF THE NAZIS."


4) "When we send our young men and women into harm's way, we have a solemn obligation...to never, ever go to war without enough troops to win the war..."-John Kerry

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette (Pennsylvania). July 28, 2004. Pg.A-1. HEINZ KERRY CENTER STAGE; TELLS CROWD AT CONVENTION HER HUSBAND IS A 'FIGHTER.'

5) "Abramoff didn't work just with Republicans...Among the biggest beneficiaries [was] Harry Reid."

Democrats Also Got Tribal Donations


6) "Democrats To Start Without GOP Input."

Democrats To Start Without GOP Input - washingtonpost.com

7)

Dems Take Aim at Oil Company Tax Breaks - washingtonpost.com

8)

BostonHerald.com - National Politics: Pelosi to fast-track minimum wage bill

Here we go, Bush has no credibility after that speech. No matter what anyone says. Call it a surge, call it escalation. Next year we will hear All we need is another 50 thousand troops to win. reminds one of Viet Nam. Escalate and work toward the NeoCon Goal. 55,000 dead just like vietnam.
300,000 wounded.

Ok all you wonderful american service men, who want to be the last person to die fighting for nothing before we pull out of Iraq?

 

[aquapub]

Kerry and Pelosi was indeed calling for more troops BACK IN 2003 & 2004. Shinsecki said we needed 250,000 and was let go before the war ever beagan.

Bush's latest stunt is too little too late.

1) "Stunt" = giving Democrats more troops like they've been demanding, so they can do a 180 and prove they are completely full of crap.

2) Generals who advocated NOT raising troop levels have also been fired by Bush.

3) Nothing has changed about what we need to do to win in Iraq that would make more troops the solution in 2004 but not in 2006 or 2007.

That's simply a lame excuse for another liberal contradiction.

FURTHERMORE...

Here is one of many examples Lexis Nexis has of John Kerry, as with Pelosi, complaining that we didn't have enough troops AFTER "2003 & 2004":

"They didn't put in enough troops."-John Kerry

CNN. SHOW: CNN LATE EDITION WITH WOLF BLITZER 11:00 AM EST. September 10, 2006 Sunday. TRANSCRIPT: 091001CN.V47. Interview With Condoleezza Rice; Interview With John Kerry



You were saying? :2wave:

 

[aquapub]

Call it a surge, call it escalation. Next year we will hear All we need is another 50 thousand troops to win. reminds one of Viet Nam. Escalate and work toward the NeoCon Goal. 55,000 dead just like vietnam.
300,000 wounded.

Ok all you wonderful american service men, who want to be the last person to die fighting for nothing before we pull out of Iraq?

Only a liberal could be so ignorant as to call waging a global struggle against militant Islamic fascism provoked by the incessant slaughter of our people "fighting for nothing." :roll:

Left-wing ignoramouses always hyper-focus on the immediate costs of fighting the enemy and spinelessly cry for full retreat.

Bin Laden himself attributes the Democrats' full retreat from Somalia as his greatest recruiting tool (who creates more terrorists?). Bending to the left's fixation on needlessly forcing another humiliating defeat on America will only make the fight far worse down the road.

So take your Midol, hold back your girly whining and let the men fight the people feverishly trying to mass murder us.

 

[BubbaBob]

So the Democrats institute a 5 day work week - ....

Once again you prove the accuracy of the second half of your screen name dufus...the democrats have NOT instituted a five day work week. They campaigned that they would...they said they would...but campaigning for and saying they would does NOT constitute "instituting"...that takes acually doing it, which they haven't...they'd rather take the day off to watch football...and don't spout that BS about a republican proposing the day off. Pelosi and the dems keep saying it's the republicans that are lazy and don't want to work, so why didn't they ignore the republican and work anyway? Where is all this "change" they promised?

BubbaBob

 

[BWG]

....the democrats have NOT instituted a five day work week.

What type of work week DID they institute...2, 3, 1 1/2 days????

...they'd rather take the day off to watch football...

Got any proof? The game was at night!!!

..and don't spout that BS about a republican proposing the day off.

Why? Ya don't wanna hear it? NOBODY proposed or granted a 'day off'.
In defense of Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio), the new minority leader, he asked Democrats, who control the schedule, to postpone the votes, not grant a day off. You do know attendance is not mandatory, right? He, and others, didn't care if they missed a session, but didn't want to miss a vote. In the end, it didn't matter as there was no session or vote scheduled, so that Congress could study upcoming legislation (what a novel idea..).

Pelosi and the Democrats keep saying it's the republicans that are lazy and don't want to work

I must of missed that, care to show me that quote?

so why didn't they ignore the republican and work anyway?

They had an assignment, the House just wasn't 'in session'.



The House schedule - Friday was taken up by the mandatory attendance by all freshman congress members at a seminar on House procedure. Monday was given to members specifically to read all the legislation that will be debated and voted on this week.

Majority Leader Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) qualified his remarks that, the game had nothing to do with scheduling. Those qualifications never made the articles that were written, though most included breathless quotes from Republicans about how the Democrats now control the calendar. And earlier in the House exchange, Hoyer was clear that no votes would be held on Monday for an entirely different reason;

Democrats pledged to give Republicans a full 24 hour period to read legislation before a vote.


But then the cons stabbed them in the back and let the hacks do their bidding for them, as usual, and sling their mud.
So much for bi-partisanship.

 

[BubbaBob]

They had an assignment, the House just wasn't 'in session'.(

Of course they had an assignment...to sit on their lazy a$$es and watch football rather than actually work and do the job they were elected to do. The BCS National Championship Game is NOT a national holiday. Most of us are expected to show up for work on that day.

BubbaBob