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Democrats Are Unified on the Shutdown. Republicans Aren’t.

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Democrats Are Unified on the Shutdown. Republicans Aren’t.

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Democrat leaders and the press after meeting with Trump on 4 January 2019.

Bloomberg
1/4/19

Time for a shutdown update, after a day with a fair amount of action but no visible progress toward an agreement. The basics: On the first day of the 116th Congress, House Democrats passed bills to reopen the government while the debate over President Donald Trump’s border wall continues. Senate Republicans said they wouldn’t take up anything unless Trump promised to sign it, including bills that had already passed easily before the shutdown. And Trump himself? As usual, he was all over the place. But Democrats brought up their two bills knowing that they were going nowhere. On the other hand, it’s worth pointing out once again that this really is Trump’s shutdown. They negotiated a pretty good deal despite a unified Republican government, and probably couldn’t improve on it much by holding out now. But that’s sort of the point: They’re willing to accept the results of fair negotiations, while Trump is shutting down the government because he didn’t get what he wanted, even though he certainly doesn’t appear to have much bargaining power. In fact, while Democrats were unified on the two key votes on Thursday, Republicans showed signs of division.

Five of them voted with the Democrats on one bill and seven on the other. At least one Republican senator, Cory Gardner, said he would support a clean bill to reopen the government. If Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell did allow a vote, the Democrats’ bills would probably pass (although neither chamber appears to have the votes to override a presidential veto). In any event, it seems likely that the pressure will increase soon. Furloughed government workers, others who are being forced to work without pay, and idle contractors will all start being hit harder. Although federal agencies can usually handle a few days of lapsed funding, the longer it goes on, the less that’s true. So far, Trump appears to have lost a little ground in his ratings, dropping about one percentage point in approval and two in disapproval. Given that the border wall isn’t popular; that most people blame Trump for the shutdown (which is no surprise, since he’s bragged about it); and that Trump himself isn’t popular, it’s likely that over time he’ll continue to bleed support. For that matter, it’s likely that everyone’s ratings will slide as the shutdown drags on. Perhaps Trump won’t believe the polls. But other Republicans will, and after the midterms they can no longer dismiss how toxic Trump can be for their party. It’s still difficult to predict how all this ends. But it’s hard to see it ending well for Republicans.

The longer the shutdown lasts, the more Republicans will come around to admit that Trump is lethal to the GOP.

Related: Signs of GOP unease over shutdown as White House talks start

McConnell: Trump will designate a team to find shutdown exit
(no Dems will believe VP Pence again)
 
Democrats Are Unified on the Shutdown. Republicans Aren’t.

white-house-meeting.jpg

Democrat leaders and the press after meeting with Trump on 4 January 2019.



The longer the shutdown lasts, the more Republicans will come around to admit that Trump is lethal to the GOP.

Related: Signs of GOP unease over shutdown as White House talks start

McConnell: Trump will designate a team to find shutdown exit
(no Dems will believe VP Pence again)



Yes..the lying-ass Illegals Over Americans We Have Walls Around Our Homes Hypocrites are united...against Americans.

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It's pretty easy to be unified on the shutdown.

1. The wall's funding was based on a lie.
2. The administration has conducted no serious cost analysis of the wall.
3. The wall is idiotic anyway.
4. Giving in to Trump would mean he could shut down the government every single time a spending bill would come up, instantly relegating the House to a lesser branch of government. Conceivably, he could even successfully demand that they cease all oversight actions.

It isn't difficult to figure out why Democrats are united on this issue.
 
It's pretty easy to be unified on this issue.

1. The wall's funding was based on a lie.
2. The administration has conducted no serious cost analysis of the wall.
3. The wall is idiotic anyway.
4. Giving in to Trump would mean he could shut down the government every single time a spending bill would come up, instantly relegating the House to a lesser branch of government. Conceivably, he could even successfully demand that they cease all oversight actions.

It isn't difficult to figure out why Democrats are united on this issue.

The Dems should bring out Rashida Tlaib who could tell him quickly what he can do with his wall. Half of that is me kidding and half of that is just saying - what the hell - might as well just get it over with.

We need to quit *****footing around and treat this badly mentally disturbed man as a dangerous traitor who is a huge threat to our nation and its people.
 
The Dems should bring out Rashida Tlaib who could tell him quickly what he can do with his wall.

We need to quit *****footing around and treat this badly mentally disturbed man as a dangerous traitor who is a huge threat to our nation and its people.

I liked Pelosi's style better. She counter-offered yesterday, agreeing to give Trump one dollar for his wall. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but that was a lot louder and sharper than telling him to "**** off."
 
I liked Pelosi's style better. She counter-offered yesterday, agreeing to give Trump one dollar for his wall. Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but that was a lot louder and sharper than telling him to "**** off."

Intellectually and practically and every other rational way I agree with you and Pelosi. But today, I am particularly fed up and just want somebody to shove this asshole up against the wall and treat him like a raw recruit in FULL METAL JACKET.
 
Democrats Are Unified on the Shutdown. Republicans Aren’t.

white-house-meeting.jpg

Democrat leaders and the press after meeting with Trump on 4 January 2019.



The longer the shutdown lasts, the more Republicans will come around to admit that Trump is lethal to the GOP.

Related: Signs of GOP unease over shutdown as White House talks start

McConnell: Trump will designate a team to find shutdown exit
(no Dems will believe VP Pence again)

There was once a time when I liked Pence, in spite of his claim that he talks to God and his bigotry towards gay people. Now he, like Rudy, is just a caricature of his old self. Pathetic. Of course they don't trust him. He's weak and a Trump stooge. Trump probably wouldn't let him sign a purchase order for more Charmin without Trump's approval.

Yes also not surprised that the Dems are aligned on this. It's pretty cut and dry. Trump owns this shutdown, and he will pay the price for it. Not them.
 
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