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Democrats are partly to blame for this mess

Craig234

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Republicans are almost entirely to blame. But not entirely.

Every Democratic leader I've heard common on the topic of trying to get Democratic voters to care about the Supreme Court, has said it was impossible, that eyes glazed over, that almost no one would care however much they encouraged them to. That's on Democrats, while Republicans have been passionate and engaged about appointing radical plutocratic judges.

Obama made two decent centrist appointments, but for the third appointment, he chose who the far-right Republican told him Republicans would approve no problem, instead of a judge with strong Democratic values. He had to compromise some, but as he often did, he seemed to compromise quite easily.

Democrats did not come out and vote enough to hold the Senate; Republicans came and voted enough to take it. That is on Democrats, who have long had a history of low turnout in mid-terms compared to Republicans.

Democrats did not choose the outstanding candidate in 2016, Bernie, allowing trump to be the phony populist outsider who won. That is on Democrats.

Things seem to be improving. Democrats are a lot more engaged. They again didn't pick Bernie, but it's more understandable and hopefully less harmful in 2020. Democrats did come out and vote and we had a blue wave in 2018. But Democrats have lessons to learn here. We're facing decades of a radical right Supreme Court, with large permanent damage, because of these mistakes.
 
Republicans are almost entirely to blame. But not entirely.

Every Democratic leader I've heard common on the topic of trying to get Democratic voters to care about the Supreme Court, has said it was impossible, that eyes glazed over, that almost no one would care however much they encouraged them to. That's on Democrats, while Republicans have been passionate and engaged about appointing radical plutocratic judges.

Obama made two decent centrist appointments, but for the third appointment, he chose who the far-right Republican told him Republicans would approve no problem, instead of a judge with strong Democratic values. He had to compromise some, but as he often did, he seemed to compromise quite easily.

Democrats did not come out and vote enough to hold the Senate; Republicans came and voted enough to take it. That is on Democrats, who have long had a history of low turnout in mid-terms compared to Republicans.

Democrats did not choose the outstanding candidate in 2016, Bernie, allowing trump to be the phony populist outsider who won. That is on Democrats.

Things seem to be improving. Democrats are a lot more engaged. They again didn't pick Bernie, but it's more understandable and hopefully less harmful in 2020. Democrats did come out and vote and we had a blue wave in 2018. But Democrats have lessons to learn here. We're facing decades of a radical right Supreme Court, with large permanent damage, because of these mistakes.
Democrats a also a little stupid, politically. Example: The first Biden-Trump debate will be on Fox, hosted by Chris Wallace. WTF?
 
Democrats a also a little stupid, politically. Example: The first Biden-Trump debate will be on Fox, hosted by Chris Wallace. WTF?
Dems always find a way to **** things up and allow the GOP to dictate terms for everything.
 
Republicans are almost entirely to blame. But not entirely.

Every Democratic leader I've heard common on the topic of trying to get Democratic voters to care about the Supreme Court, has said it was impossible, that eyes glazed over, that almost no one would care however much they encouraged them to. That's on Democrats, while Republicans have been passionate and engaged about appointing radical plutocratic judges.

Obama made two decent centrist appointments, but for the third appointment, he chose who the far-right Republican told him Republicans would approve no problem, instead of a judge with strong Democratic values. He had to compromise some, but as he often did, he seemed to compromise quite easily.

Democrats did not come out and vote enough to hold the Senate; Republicans came and voted enough to take it. That is on Democrats, who have long had a history of low turnout in mid-terms compared to Republicans.

Democrats did not choose the outstanding candidate in 2016, Bernie, allowing trump to be the phony populist outsider who won. That is on Democrats.

Things seem to be improving. Democrats are a lot more engaged. They again didn't pick Bernie, but it's more understandable and hopefully less harmful in 2020. Democrats did come out and vote and we had a blue wave in 2018. But Democrats have lessons to learn here. We're facing decades of a radical right Supreme Court, with large permanent damage, because of these mistakes.
During the Obama presidency Democrats lost over 1000 seats to Republicans, up to and including the White House (Trump nonetheless), the Senate, and the House. The minority party historically wins seats in the midterms and yet the 2018 midterms were pretty anemic in that regard, particularly with Republicans actually gaining ground in the Senate. That is why we are where we are at now. One thing you fail to understand is that about 35% of Americans identify as Independents/moderates, 35% identify as conservative, and only 24% identify as liberals. You make the arrogant mistake of thinking more Americans favor your way of thinking when they actually don't.
 
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