Democrats Are freaking Out Over a Possible President Trump

[DamnYankee]

I'm not too big on Trump, but the alternative is much worse. And really, no comparison to Obama. Trump at least knows how to run things and get things done, Obama couldn't (and still can't) run a Lemonade stand. No holding office before is not necessarily a bad thing either.

True. The alternative is the Queen of Corruption or Comrade BS. Neither of which would be beneficial to the country as a whole.

 

[humbolt]

No- its quite different.

The Clintons, and Hillary certainly, has a pretty defined word view and ideas that they will be happy to turn into power and money, much like most politicians.

Trump, however, has really no other agenda than 'making deals', and the point of those deals is to make him wealthier. Pro life? Pro Choice" Who cares? Wheres the money? Guns? No Guns? Whatever - whos' got more cash and/or votes?

The only consistent thing seems to be his dislike for immigrants and minorities, but then again, they dont have the cash, so who cares about them.

I'm sure that in your fevered imagination it is. However, the Clinton pattern is firmly established in fact. They trade political favors for power and money. There's enough documentation to choke a horse in that matter.

 

[Anthony60]

Trump, however, has really no other agenda than 'making deals', and the point of those deals is to make him wealthier. Pro life? Pro Choice" Who cares? Wheres the money? Guns? No Guns? Whatever - whos' got more cash and/or votes?

Yes, let's get Hillary in there, because, you know, the Clintons would never use their positions to gain wealth!
God, I sometimes wonder if the left even realizes what they are saying.

 

[Threegoofs]

I admit there probably a good chance you're right. But, in the process of courting the republican establishments support (or getting them to stop trying to sink him), he "committed" to letting the Heritage foundation pick his SCOTUS nominees. That's a very big issue that he agreed to make a very big concession on, he can try to wiggle out of it, and he might even succeed, but republicans would never let it go. I don't want Shillary stacking the panel with gun banners, but I will put aside a lot of my differences with Democrats to stop Social Conservatism, or even the possibility of the SCOTUS being dominated by it for the next 15-30 years and used as a vehicle for it.

Yeah. And he never changes his position when its convenient. When he gets elected, getting votes is no longer necessary, and I bet he'd trade a SCOTUS justice for a huge personal tax credit- that trading will be with whatever party is convenient.

A Full List of Donald Trump'''s Rapidly Changing Policy Positions - NBC News

The guy says what he needs to say to get the GOP on board. He drops it when he needs to. There is no higher principle than his ego and wealth.

 

[Threegoofs]

Yes, let's get Hillary in there, because, you know, the Clintons would never use their positions to gain wealth!
God, I sometimes wonder if the left even realizes what they are saying.

So what you're saying is that you hate politicians that use their positions to gain wealth so much that you want the guy who will probably do this on a larger scale than anyone ever before?

Makes sense, dude.

 

[shagg]

Yeah. And he never changes his position when its convenient. When he gets elected, getting votes is no longer necessary, and I bet he'd trade a SCOTUS justice for a huge personal tax credit- that trading will be with whatever party is convenient.

A Full List of Donald Trump'''s Rapidly Changing Policy Positions - NBC News

The guy says what he needs to say to get the GOP on board. He drops it when he needs to. There is no higher principle than his ego and wealth.

Sure, when its the airy stuff he usually talks about. But this was a deal struck between 2 parties, and his end of the deal is giving them his SCOTUS nominees. It's not like the wall or banning muslims, where when he flip flops there's a general murmur of "I told you so" and that's it. There will be some very powerful pissed off people in the GOP if he tries to flake on this. It's a big deal that will have consequences that span decades either way.

 

[Anthony60]

So what you're saying is that you hate politicians that use their positions to gain wealth so much that you want the guy who will probably do this on a larger scale than anyone ever before?

Makes sense, dude.

Just hilarious! You are the one that is so against it, and claim Trump will do it, with no way to prove that, but the Clintons have already done it! Fantastic!

 

[Threegoofs]

Sure, when its the airy stuff he usually talks about. But this was a deal struck between 2 parties, and his end of the deal is giving them his SCOTUS nominees. It's not like the wall or banning muslims, where when he flip flops there's a general murmur of "I told you so" and that's it. There will be some very powerful pissed off people in the GOP if he tries to flake on this. It's a big deal that will have consequences that span decades either way.

Right. A deal that becomes worthless on his part as soon as he assumes the Presidency.

If anything is clear about his history, his lack of principle on positions stands out pretty dramatically.

 

[Threegoofs]

Just hilarious! You are the one that is so against it, and claim Trump will do it, with no way to prove that, but the Clintons have already done it! Fantastic!

I see you you have a challenge following logic. That might explain the Trump support.

 

[_Sal]

Dont be silly.

Trump will not do the bidding of the Heritage Foundation at all. He's going to sell the seat to the highest bidder (under the table, of course), or, he will put Donald Trump Jr on if he wants it. His current 'list' of SCOTUS nominees was put out to help him win the election. He will ditch that list as soon as he assumes office.

The guy is a grifter, pure and simple. He will use the Presidency to amass money and power for himself, and there is no other agenda on his docket.

yup :thumbs:

 

[Anthony60]

I see you you have a challenge following logic. That might explain the Trump support.

Your correct response would be to admit that, yes, Hillary has already done what you said Trump would do, and admit that it's, at the very least, a little bit of a mistake to criticise Trump on something he hasn't done (but you think he will) and say nothing about HRC raking in millions already.

And to dig a deeper hole, you are now trying to ignore what you said and somehow say I am saying it instead. Just classic liberal. Can't only not admit a mistake and take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, you keep digging the hole deeper.

What's next, it's Bush's fault? LOL!

 

[natsb]

You are assuming that 'liberals' are the same kind of socialists that are venezuela. There are vast numbers of 'flavors' so to speak of socialism. The vast majority are mix economy socialists, not the kind of socialism that was promoted in Venezuela. That's a different beast all together.

Liberals/Socialist are all alike. It is amusing that you think there is a difference. We see it over and over and over all throughout history. A "new" socialist, you know, not one like all the others that failed, will proclaim that they learned the lessons, and this time it will work. Then, once the OPM is gone, the nation falls into chaos and fails, just like all the other times.

It is like no many how many times you've watched the movie, you think it will end differently if you watch it just one more time.

 

[shagg]

Right. A deal that becomes worthless on his part as soon as he assumes the Presidency.

If anything is clear about his history, his lack of principle on positions stands out pretty dramatically.

If he does somehow pull off a win in November, and then pulls what you've described, NASA will have to be revived in order to calculate the entertainment value. Watching the GOP turn on him after he "forgets" the help he had to barter for on his way up will require a lot of popcorn. It almost makes me want to vote for him.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Any person who actually has the ability to think should be freaked out at the possibility of a Trump Presidency.

All, of USA's trading partners should be freaked out about a Trump Presidency. The only country that wins a trade war he starts will be China. They would love to break down some of these established pacts that limit them in their global scope.

Trump is the most destructive force the USA is facing. He is divisive, impetuous, insecure, arrogant and so self involved he is unable to rule from the position of what's good for the country...but rather what's good for Trump.

 

[iguanaman]

Of course they are, because what the Dem-establishment wants is not what will guarantee them victory.
It's all emotion-based at this point.

Because an avowed "socialist" that promises to raise everyone's taxes is so electable. Not.

 

[Lovebug]

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Why would the Democrats freak out over a possible President Trump? He, like all Republicans will serve the interests of the wealthy and Big Business, and since most Democrats are rich, they will be jumping for joy. Their “concern" is nothing more than an act to placate their base.

Let me start out by saying that I am not a Republican.
Having said that, I must state that it never seizes to amaze how many so called well informed swallow partisan propaganda, hook, line and sinker.

Sure, The Donald has been making outlandish promises white people are eating up, claiming he will make the sweeping changes they've dreamed of. But anyone with any memory knows that once elected, politicians quickly forget the promises made during their campaigns, and it’s back to business-as-usual in D.C. Our government is controlled by the fat cats, and has been for decades. With Trump as President, the fat cats have one of their own calling the shots.

Good. We established that almost all politicians are power hungry liars

With a Republican in the White House and a Congressional majority, the Democrats can sit back, relax and let the GOP take the blame for everything. The 20 million and more Americans who will lose medical coverage, the Democrats can tell them, “Sorry, you will need to ask the GOP about that.” Social Security and Medicare cuts for the elderly, the Democrats will say, “Talk to the Republicans, we have no power to stop them.” The list of opportunities for the Democrats to escape blame is endless with Trump in the White House.

Now that would be sad, wouldn't it? If Dems just sat idly by while Reps ran people and their livelyhood into the ground, they are just as much to blame when Americans, Rs and Ds alike, lose medical coverage and so on. Why not find common ground to work for the people, instead of sitting back, stroking their ego?

It’s going to be entertaining to watch the dumbfounded Trump fans when he turns his back on them after he is inaugurated in January 2017. The Republicans will again be spending like drunken sailors, just as they did when Dubya was President and they had the Congressional majority.

Entertaining? I find it rather sad that it had to come to this, and it won't just be the Trump supporters...or vice versa Hillary supporters...who have to suffer through this. It will be you, me, and everyone else who lives in this still salvageable country of ours.

Democrats are freaking out over a possible President Trump | New York Post

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If you agree with me that's fine. If you do not, I don't really care.



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It seems you aren't interested in an actual discussion. No one expects everyone to agree. But it helps to listen, open one's horizon, soaking in some actual information. Why? Because people, the left, the right, black, white, rich or poor, we have to figure it out together. Our goals, taking care of family and oneself, our dreams, our ambition, aren't that different from each other. We have more in common that you could possibly imagine.
Looking for common ground instead of putting oneself on a pedestal screaming "gotcha", now that is something we all should strive for.
But if your mind is made up to the point of shutting out every argument, what's the use?

 

[Threegoofs]

Your correct response would be to admit that, yes, Hillary has already done what you said Trump would do, and admit that it's, at the very least, a little bit of a mistake to criticise Trump on something he hasn't done (but you think he will) and say nothing about HRC raking in millions already.

And to dig a deeper hole, you are now trying to ignore what you said and somehow say I am saying it instead. Just classic liberal. Can't only not admit a mistake and take PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, you keep digging the hole deeper.

What's next, it's Bush's fault? LOL!

Boy. Nothing gets past you. :roll:

 

[Anthony60]

Boy. Nothing gets past you. :roll:

Awesome! Great non response. You are a highly trained lib, able to deflect facts and stay off subject at will. Great job. Continue the great work of destroying my country. You guys will make America pay for it's sins, and rid us of that pesky Constitution yet. March on, comrade.

 

[BitterPill]

Why would the Democrats freak out over a possible President Trump?

I can't figure it myself.

 

[Jetboogieman]

I can't figure it myself.

Yeah the OP has it wrong.

It's not democrats freaking out of the possibility of President Trump.

It's all rational human beings that are freaking out of the possibility of a President Trump.

It is not reasonable, to any extent whatsoever, to think, regardless of your feelings on Hillary, that the man should be President.

Anyone who'd vote for the man has lost the plot in my view.

 

[Threegoofs]

Yeah the OP has it wrong.

It's not democrats freaking out of the possibility of President Trump.

It's all rational human beings that are freaking out of the possibility of a President Trump.

Well, TBH, those people who seperate the world into two groups: evil librul democrats vs people who think like themselves, are correct in conflating democrats and rational human beings, since rationality does not overlap with their group.

 

[BitterPill]

Yeah the OP has it wrong.

It's not democrats freaking out of the possibility of President Trump.

It's all rational human beings that are freaking out of the possibility of a President Trump.

It is not reasonable, to any extent whatsoever, to think, regardless of your feelings on Hillary, that the man should be President.

Anyone who'd vote for the man has lost the plot in my view.

I'm pretty sure Trump will not be president, and I have trouble freaking out about something that is unlikely.

I guess that makes me irrational in your view, but if I were worried about unlikely events I have little control over, I'd probably start with the giant meteors speeding toward Earth as I write this passage.

 

[Jetboogieman]

I guess that makes me irrational in your view.

Not necessarily, as long as you don't plan on voting for the guy.

As unlikely as it may be, and I do also think that... The relative likelihood, as he is the candidate for one of only two parties, is still pretty shocking.

 

[FieldTheorist]

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Why would the Democrats freak out over a possible President Trump? He, like all Republicans will serve the interests of the wealthy and Big Business, and since most Democrats are rich, they will be jumping for joy. Their “concern" is nothing more than an act to placate their base.

Sure, The Donald has been making outlandish promises white people are eating up, claiming he will make the sweeping changes they've dreamed of. But anyone with any memory knows that once elected, politicians quickly forget the promises made during their campaigns, and it’s back to business-as-usual in D.C. Our government is controlled by the fat cats, and has been for decades. With Trump as President, the fat cats have one of their own calling the shots.

With a Republican in the White House and a Congressional majority, the Democrats can sit back, relax and let the GOP take the blame for everything. The 20 million and more Americans who will lose medical coverage, the Democrats can tell them, “Sorry, you will need to ask the GOP about that.” Social Security and Medicare cuts for the elderly, the Democrats will say, “Talk to the Republicans, we have no power to stop them.” The list of opportunities for the Democrats to escape blame is endless with Trump in the White House.

It’s going to be entertaining to watch the dumbfounded Trump fans when he turns his back on them after he is inaugurated in January 2017. The Republicans will again be spending like drunken sailors, just as they did when Dubya was President and they had the Congressional majority.

I don't know what Trump will do. That's the most likely. But right now, Trump is going to say whatever he needs to to get power. What he does once he's in power... Well, it's a coin flip.

 

[Anthony60]

Yeah the OP has it wrong.

It's not democrats freaking out of the possibility of President Trump.

It's all rational human beings that are freaking out of the possibility of a President Trump.

It is not reasonable, to any extent whatsoever, to think, regardless of your feelings on Hillary, that the man should be President.

Anyone who'd vote for the man has lost the plot in my view.

All good, except that Hillary is worse. Way worse.