Democrat women -the Handmaid's tale 2019

[RaleBulgarian]

Who knows, maybe the matching outfits thing could catch on.

 

[What if...?]

it's freedom for themselves and everybody like them, everybody else has to live by the standards conservatives tell them. It would be interesting if there was a genetic link to empathy, or marker for empathy, pretty sure most conservatives would not have any.

I have theory.

Its complex, but on the aspect of genetics I think conservatives have more of the adaptations to the sedentary (living in one place, growing food) lifestyle and liberals retain more of the hunter/gatherer gene set.

An example would be hunter/gatherers have to be neophiles. Hunger for the horizon. Moving to new places is pro survival.

This hunger would make a potato farmer miserable and unmarryable. So the sedentary types lost that hunger in favor of acceptance of rigid heirarchies.

And further, hunger for status/power, a basic drive in social species, lost our evolved "checks" when we settled down. Interpersonal relationships and the simple truth that we were ALL apex predators when we were wandering around. That changed when our groups got over 700 members and professional soldiers/guards were adopted to enforce the new way of living. Managers, wage labor.

There's more to it, I'm working on a blog about it.

 

[KLATTU]

https://babylonbee.com/news/republi...tifully-chant-while-clad-in-matching-uniforms

WASHINGTON, D.C.—In remarks leading up to the State of the Union address Tuesday evening, Democratic lawmakers accused Republicans of being brainwashed and following Trump no matter what he does, all while wearing matching white uniforms and only clapping when their party leaders signaled it was OK to do so.



"Republicans are all brainwashed to agree with whatever Trump says," one congresswoman said after the address as she stood in solidarity with her fellow Democrats all in matching, identical uniforms. "It's really sad that half our nation can't think for themselves and only do whatever the Republican Party tells them to do."

"When we can't think for ourselves, we've lost what made this nation great," she added, reading off a script prepared for her by party leaders.

:laughat::donkeyfla

 

[Keridan]

Just a few observations from someone who doesn't care for Trump or either major party.

If you made statements, even internally, tying red hats to klan values, you might want to look inside yourself before defending this behavior.

If you think this little display inspired fear in anyone, your argument loses a lot of credibility out of the gate. That "look how scared they are" soundbite just makes it look like you haven't got any considered input to share.

Pelosi lost a lot of her ground at the SOTU. She had handled Trump so well in the shut down, but then controlled the behavior blatantly of her fellow democrats and tried to grab attention away with outfits and telling women it was not okay to clap, even at good points if Trump was making them. So much for classy handling of a situation.

Some of the women looked very nice in their fancy clothes. None of them looked good for being part of a group mocking real achievements a century ago by whining about imagined slights currently.

If anyone from either side takes this little junior high protest seriously, you need to adjust your priorities. It was a badly played hand that made no real difference in the world.

 

[manofknowledge]

Money is a tool. It isn't speech. It can be used to promote speech but it isn't the only way to do that either.

The Supreme Court in the Citizens United decision held that.

"Holding: Political spending is a form of protected speech under the First Amendment, and the government may not keep corporations or unions from spending money to support or denounce individual candidates in elections. While corporations or unions may not give money directly to campaigns, they may seek to persuade the voting public through other means, including ads, especially where these ads were not broadcast."

"https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/citizens-united-v-federal-election-commission/

 

[Dutch]

told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women

The collectivists have always been about regimentation.

 

[reflechissez]

And you must fairly addicted to bad faith readings to have come up with that straw man. "White" can certainty be a color in or of someone's business attire, but when it is coordinated with and adorned by a group for the sole purpose of show boating their political identity as modern suffragettes, a cause resolved a hundred years ago, no one (least of all them) are pretending its just ordinary business attire. They know, the press knows it, and you should know it.

Moreover its clear what I'd be satisfied with; Congressional men and women dressing appropriately for a Presidents State of the Union, not in fashion statement grievance group messaging. Fashion grandstanding to show grievance group "solidarity" with the avowed message that "we will not go back on our hard-earned rights" is more than dumb and crass, its a persecutory delusion crying for attention - best dealt with in group therapy, not at a national ceremonial event.

You have a lot of opinions. That's really great.

 

[Visbek]

Just a few observations from someone who doesn't care for Trump or either major party.

If you made statements, even internally, tying red hats to klan values, you might want to look inside yourself before defending this behavior.

So much for "not caring about Trump"

Tell us, then. For the people who want to make America great again, what point in time are they referring to? The 1950s? The 1930s? The 1850s? 1800? Then ask yourself, was that a great time for minorities? For blacks, Hispanics, Chinese, Muslims, Jews, Mormons? For women? For the working class?

Perhaps populist nostalgia for a time when white Christian men were on top is not quite so innocent as you think.

If you think this little display inspired fear in anyone, your argument loses a lot of credibility out of the gate.

It wasn't intended to "inspire fear." It was intended as a display of solidarity, and a way to honor the accomplishments of the original suffrage movement.

Pelosi lost a lot of her ground at the SOTU....

Please.

She had handled Trump so well in the shut down, but then controlled the behavior blatantly of her fellow democrats and tried to grab attention away with outfits and telling women it was not okay to clap, even at good points if Trump was making them. So much for classy handling of a situation.

What are you, new?

Parties have enforced discipline at the SOTU for decades. Applauding or refusing to applaud is all part of the show. The balance of power didn't suddenly change because of the SOTU -- as should be obvious by how the House completely ignored Trump's whining about investigations.

Some of the women looked very nice in their fancy clothes. None of them looked good for being part of a group mocking real achievements a century ago by whining about imagined slights currently.

Meaning what, exactly? Women's rights, women's health, sexual assault (especially in the military), and discrimination aren't real?

If anyone from either side takes this little junior high protest seriously, you need to adjust your priorities. It was a badly played hand that made no real difference in the world.

And yet, here you are, talking about it. Kinda sounds like they accomplished their goal.

 

[Keridan]

So much for "not caring about Trump"

Tell us, then. For the people who want to make America great again, what point in time are they referring to? The 1950s? The 1930s? The 1850s? 1800? Then ask yourself, was that a great time for minorities? For blacks, Hispanics, Chinese, Muslims, Jews, Mormons? For women? For the working class?

Perhaps populist nostalgia for a time when white Christian men were on top is not quite so innocent as you think.

I have a sanity and intellectual honesty threshold I've been trying out lately before engaging someone. You lost out at the first point of your reply.

Good luck with that and all!

 

[Mach]

Absurd post award of the week.

Dressing alike as part of a solidarity display for a social movement/change, an expression of free speech, in a relatively free democracy
vs
Religious evangelicals who "blew up government" to do things their own way, including requiring by law the practice of their stupid religious beliefs.

Claiming the first, is the second, with the backdrop of how right wing evangelicals continue to try and push their religion into government, is just all kids of absurd.

 

[JMR]

I don't disagree with the observation that our nation, in their political culture, has become freakishly childish; one example you missed being that of the Congresswomen getting ginned up with showboating their politicized biological sex. Historically it has not been customary for anyone to be in other than business attire, even if the politicians identified as a proud member of a religion, class, national origin, or race.

Adding to the childishness was the need for the black women, as well as some black men, to add African symbolism as an add-on apparel to assert their special racial identity - but one wonders, when will we see Americans dressed as plains Indians, desert arabs, skirted natives, kilted clansmen, or fez wearing Turks? How about some horned helmeted Vikings or lederhosen clothed for their cherished genetic heritage? Or wearing hoodies...oh wait, we've already seen that.

Honestly, this bandwagon get-up as modern day suffragettes for a cause resolved a hundred years ago is quite dumb and immature - still, in the current atmosphere we can all look forward to the men who will be coming dressed with the accoutrements of unionized coal miners with IWW buttons... you know, to assert their identity for the cameras.

And yet the wearing of flag pins is somehow exempt from bandwagon get-up... Yup.

 

[JMR]

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Things my Democrat women colleagues wouldn’t clap for at #StateOfTheUnion2019 tonight: America, freedom, free enterprise, law enforcement heroes, record low unemployment for women & minorities, the right of babies to live. Things they did clap for: themselves.

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#OUCH

Lynn Cheney sleeps with a man who lied about WMDs and outed a CIA agent....costing many thousands of American Lives, and reaping much profit for Halliburton. Yeah, her opinion is worth ZERO.

Oh wait, that wasn't Lynn Cheney, it was Liz, who votes against her own sister's right to marry her life partner. A monster to the right of her father.

We should care what any Cheney has to say, because????

 

[Visbek]

I have a sanity and intellectual honesty threshold I've been trying out lately before engaging someone. You lost out at the first point of your reply.

:roll:

For future reference, ad hominem attacks are not an argument. Neither is the refusal to debate a point that you yourself introduced.

 

[Keridan]

:roll:

For future reference, ad hominem attacks are not an argument, as is a refusal to debate a point that you yourself introduced.

I was referring to the sanity and honesty of your post, not yourself, but take it how you want. And you weren't debating the points I put forward, so I didn't see a reason to debate the odd interpretation you made of them.

Anyway, have a good night and good luck finding folks who will debate in your style.

 

[maxparrish]

And yet the wearing of flag pins is somehow exempt from bandwagon get-up... Yup.

The bandwagon get-up of particular identity group is objectionable at a SOTU because its passive aggressive messaging on their identity - which not all share.. So are you trying to say that a Congress member who underscores their identity as Americans, is not not shared by others elected to Congress, and therefore is offensive?

Look i you wear a christen pin at your church church, does some pinhead actually think its equally appropriate to wear an orthodox skull cap or MAGA hat in the pews? Unless everyone in the pews identify as Trumpers or Orthodox Jews, that's just plain rude and inappropriate - just like those fake suffragettes obsessed women in Congress.

What is it about unity, courtesy, and mutual respect at a SOTU that eludes you?

 

[JMR]

The bandwagon get-up of particular identity group is objectionable at a SOTU because its passive aggressive messaging on their identity - which not all share.. So are you trying to say that a Congress member who underscores their identity as Americans, is not not shared by others elected to Congress, and therefore is offensive?

Look i you wear a christen pin at your church church, does some pinhead actually think its equally appropriate to wear an orthodox skull cap or MAGA hat in the pews? Unless everyone in the pews identify as Trumpers or Orthodox Jews, that's just plain rude and inappropriate - just like those fake suffragettes obsessed women in Congress.

What is it about unity, courtesy, and mutual respect at a SOTU that eludes you?

There is nothing inappropriate with dressing in white. There is nothing wrong with being proud to be a woman. You make excuses for those who need to "underscore" their American identity. If flag pins are fine, so are white jackets. Lots of bs about nothing at all.

 

[KLATTU]

Lynn Cheney sleeps with a man who lied about WMDs and outed a CIA agent....costing many thousands of American Lives, and reaping much profit for Halliburton. Yeah, her opinion is worth ZERO.

Oh wait, that wasn't Lynn Cheney, it was Liz, who votes against her own sister's right to marry her life partner. A monster to the right of her father.

We should care what any Cheney has to say, because????

:cuckoo:

 

[CaughtInThe]

It's always easy to tell which men are scared of chicks.

 

[reflechissez]

And you must fairly addicted to bad faith readings to have come up with that straw man. "White" can certainty be a color in or of someone's business attire, but when it is coordinated with and adorned by a group for the sole purpose of show boating their political identity as modern suffragettes, a cause resolved a hundred years ago, no one (least of all them) are pretending its just ordinary business attire. They know, the press knows it, and you should know it.

Moreover its clear what I'd be satisfied with; Congressional men and women dressing appropriately for a Presidents State of the Union, not in fashion statement grievance group messaging. Fashion grandstanding to show grievance group "solidarity" with the avowed message that "we will not go back on our hard-earned rights" is more than dumb and crass, its a persecutory delusion crying for attention - best dealt with in group therapy, not at a national ceremonial event.

Opinion noted. Next.

 

[Nickyjo]

told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women

You are serious? It was to honor suffragettes, pal, and the number of women elected. Even Trump recognized them. I assume by your comment you prefer women barefoot and pregnant.

 

[lurchadams]

told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women

No one walks in lockstep with the scummiest of people and blurt out more of the same tired slogans as "conservative" politicians. Look who you elected president! No more proof of my premise is required.

Check and mate!

 

[sangha]

We've seen similar "symbolism" before:



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[rickc]

told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women

i believe they chose to dress in that fashion

they weren't told how to dress by that all white all male GOP

 

[tosca1]

told what to wear, when to clap, when to stand, joyless and angry, Democrat women are the antithesis of free thinking,free speaking Conservative women

Watching that event - some really showed they can't even decide for themselves. They got confused at one point, and couldn't decide whether to agree with Trump or not (re: women in the workforce part).
It took sometime for them to react. That's what's obvious. :lol:







If most of these women can't understand the language (maybe that's where the confusion is), as some took urgings to stand up (heck, they couldn't even tell the positive message to women)..............

.......suffice it to say, they won't likely be voting on issues on their own!

So yes! That's the impression they give! Handmaid's Tale, indeed. All they need is a headgear!
I suggest the........***** hat! :mrgreen:

 

[KLATTU]

LOL I think they were looking for a cue form their leader. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez( D-CUPS)