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This is the kind of thing that forced me to leave the republican party in the first place, though in many ways the Dems are just as bad, it is far less prevelant:

"Former GOP official to be sentenced on phone-jamming charges

May 16, 2006

CONCORD, N.H. --A former Republican National Committee official convicted in an Election Day phone-jamming plot against New Hampshire Democrats faces up to seven years in prison at his scheduled sentencing Wednesday.

James Tobin of Bangor, Maine, was found guilty in December on two telephone harassment charges. He also faces up to a $500,000 fine. His lawyers have asked for a new trial, and on Monday, they filed a motion objecting to a sentencing document filed by prosecutors.

Tobin, 45, stepped down as New England chairman of President Bush's re-election campaign in 2004 when Democrats accused him of playing a role in the jamming on Election Day 2002. That's when Republican John Sununu won a hotly contested U.S. Senate race against then-Gov. Jeanne Shaheen.

At the time of the jamming, Tobin was serving as regional political director for the RNC and the National Republican Senatorial Committee, overseeing Senate campaigns in several states, including New Hampshire and Maine.

The scheme jammed get-out-the-vote phone lines set up by the state Democratic Party and the Manchester firefighters' union for about an hour with more than 800 hang-up calls.

"Overcome by his desire for success in the election, Tobin exercised his considerable authority to make the phone jamming scheme succeed, rather than stop it," prosecutors wrote in a sentencing document posted last week."


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tecoyah said:
This is the kind of thing that forced me to leave the republican party in the first place, though in many ways the Dems are just as bad, it is far less prevelant:

"Former GOP official to be sentenced on phone-jamming charges

May 16, 2006

CONCORD, N.H. --A former Republican National Committee official convicted in an Election Day phone-jamming plot against New Hampshire Democrats faces up to seven years in prison at his scheduled sentencing Wednesday.

James Tobin of Bangor, Maine, was found guilty in December on two telephone harassment charges. He also faces up to a $500,000 fine. His lawyers have asked for a new trial, and on Monday, they filed a motion objecting to a sentencing document filed by prosecutors.

Tobin, 45, stepped down as New England chairman of President Bush's re-election campaign in 2004 when Democrats accused him of playing a role in the jamming on Election Day 2002. That's when Republican John Sununu won a hotly contested U.S. Senate race against then-Gov. Jeanne Shaheen.

At the time of the jamming, Tobin was serving as regional political director for the RNC and the National Republican Senatorial Committee, overseeing Senate campaigns in several states, including New Hampshire and Maine.

The scheme jammed get-out-the-vote phone lines set up by the state Democratic Party and the Manchester firefighters' union for about an hour with more than 800 hang-up calls.

"Overcome by his desire for success in the election, Tobin exercised his considerable authority to make the phone jamming scheme succeed, rather than stop it," prosecutors wrote in a sentencing document posted last week."


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Do you have a link to the original article? I'd like to read it.
 
I understand that Bush is particularly interested in intercepting phone calls from Boy Scouts of America. I understand that he was kicked out of the BSA.

All the companies that gave information to the the NSA, should be boycotted by good Americans everywhere. Close your accounts and make the dogs pay.

close AT&T accounts

close Verizon Accounts

close Bell south accounts,

close Qwest accounts.

find out who give the NSA information about you, and close those accounts. The lists have been published.
 
tecoyah said:
This is the kind of thing that forced me to leave the republican party in the first place, though in many ways the Dems are just as bad, it is far less prevelant:

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Pisses me off too, but I'd disagree that it is less prevalant in the dem party...

Two examples, buth older, but still valid...ANDI doubt much has changed in scope except to become worse:

Daly's Chicago..."Vote early and vote often"

LBJ running for office had (it seemed) more dead Texans voting for him than he did live ones.

BubbaBob
 
dragonslayer said:
I understand that Bush is particularly interested in intercepting phone calls from Boy Scouts of America. I understand that he was kicked out of the BSA.

All the companies that gave information to the the NSA, should be boycotted by good Americans everywhere. Close your accounts and make the dogs pay.

close AT&T accounts

close Verizon Accounts

close Bell south accounts,

close Qwest accounts.

find out who give the NSA information about you, and close those accounts. The lists have been published.
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Actually Qwest is the only company you mentioned up there that did not disclose phone records.
 
Hmm.... nothing in here yet about Clinton or JFK's wiretapping programs..... :roll:

What's wrong with looking at a sheet of numbers and matching them to 'Foreign-To-Domestic' calls made by numbers from known terrorists? And those phone companies didn't just GIVE those records away, they were taken by use of a program that CLINTON put into place. They are just numbers, not names. They only seek out names if the numbers have a match.

By the way, did any of you know that you can research anything about anybody on the internet? Just look it up. There are sites that hold info on anybody. Like there is a switchboard website where if I just type in a random phone # I can find out who that random # belongs to and where they live. So the gov't isn't doing anything that the private citizens can't already do. When Bush said that the 'wiretappings' were all within the law he was correct.
 
tecoyah said:
This is the kind of thing that forced me to leave the republican party in the first place, though in many ways the Dems are just as bad, it is far less prevelant:
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More than the slitting of the tires of the get out the vote vans the Dems did?
How about the stealing of the credit report?

There's bad apples on both sides, chose which party represents your political views and push for punishment of offenders on both sides.
 
BubbaBob said:
Pisses me off too, but I'd disagree that it is less prevalant in the dem party...

Two examples, buth older, but still valid...ANDI doubt much has changed in scope except to become worse:

Daly's Chicago..."Vote early and vote often"

LBJ running for office had (it seemed) more dead Texans voting for him than he did live ones.

BubbaBob
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LBJ was essentially sent to the white house invalidly by the famous Daly machine, which could perform such wonders as convincing dead people to go to the polls and vote democrat.
 
tryreading said:
I see there are some felon apologists on this thread. This is a major subversion of the American political process, Watergate on a smaller scale. There has been a conviction, so there must be some validity to the charges. Tobin should get the maximum prison time and the maximum fine.
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Watergate on the ultra large scale - NSA wiretaps.
 
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