So what if people make their own bullets? I honestly have no idea why you think that's a meaningful rebuttal.
That is because you don't want your joke refuted.
If they can make them you're...rather Chris Rock's joke is uneffective. It would be a different source. A non cost prohibitive sorce.
Uh, I was satirizing a stupid, hyperbolic question. So all you were doing was satirizing a satire of a stupid, hyperbolic question.
Uh, I was satirizing a stupid, hyperbolic question. So all you were doing was satirizing a satire of a stupid, hyperbolic question.
Your joke is refuted.Yes, and?
You affect making any argument. You are telling a joke.What part of my argument do you think that's refuting, exactly?
I am glad to see that you are keeping up.
I'm smart and stuff.
I'm smart and stuff.
Your home is refuted.
You affect making any argument. You are telling a joke.
If I can get bullets cheap and easy than your proposal doesn't work.
Are you doing speech-to-text right now? If so I'd stop.
Is it your argument that illegal, home-made bullets would replace the same exact quantity that was cheaply available when bullets cost a mere thirty cents each? Americans bought twelve billion rounds of ammo last year. Can you meet that demand?
U.S. sees shortage of ammunition
no, I corrected it.Are you doing speech-to-text right now? If so I'd stop.
First, Making bullets isn't illegal. Second people make bullets because it's cheaper than buying them as it stands now. So yes.Is it your argument that illegal, home-made bullets would replace the same exact quantity that was cheaply available when bullets cost a mere thirty cents each?
That's 40 rounds a year of 300million people were doing it.Americans bought twelve billion rounds of ammo last year. Can you meet that demand?
Never heard of a black market? Ask any drug dealer or user, seems to have worked just fine for them. Thing is with firearms even many States might be involved in helping fulfill the needs, not every state is anti-2nd A or don't you realize that fact?
First, Making bullets isn't illegal. Second people make bullets because it's cheaper than buying them as it stands now. So yes.
That's 40 rounds a year of 300million people were doing it.
Being that I can produce about 4000 in one day, I don't think it's a long shot.
Plus if bullets were expensive tere would be more motivation for me to make them and other people to. It would be lucrative.
There is a reason prohibition creates organized crime. And again this isn't crime its freedom fighting.
So is it organized crime or is it freedom fighting?
Those arrested are replaced in less than 24 hours, seems like people have little fear of the law in that regard. If my government was attempting to make it nearly impossible to exercise my 2nd A rights then Yes I would deal with whom I would need to, but then again I am surrounded by people that own firearms, do their own loading, and have 3D printers so it will not be hard to get what I need.Yes, I've heard of a black market. It would be pretty difficult to not have heard of it because it's mentioned in every post. Also, I would argue that things went well for drug dealers up until they were arrested. If you feel that kind of life would be for you, then have at it. Also, if you're the kind of person who likes dealing with criminals and their touch-and-go merchandise,* then again, have at it.
You didn't answer the primary question in my post, which is whether you believe these black market ammunition manufacturers could meet American ammunition consumption similar to last year, which was 12 billion rounds.
*A large part of the reason I stopped smoking pot over a decade ago. Having to interact with skeevy dealers and unreliable quality was a gigantic pain in the ass.
If it's to fight against an oppressive government it would be freedom fighting.
And a government that interferes with Market and and the rights of citizens and places punitive costs on things it is oppressive.
So where it would be deemed organized crime by the oppressive government it would indeed be freedom fighting.
So it could be both
Yes people get killed in Wars.You know, freedom fighters typically kill people.
I would make my own for $0.15 a bullet.Is that what you would do if ammo became $1600 a bullet?
Those arrested are replaced in less than 24 hours, seems like people have little fear of the law in that regard. If my government was attempting to make it nearly impossible to exercise my 2nd A rights then Yes I would deal with whom I would need to, but then again I am surrounded by people that own firearms, do their own loading, and have 3D printers so it will not be hard to get what I need.
No but they would mange to keep up with the demand fairly well.
As for myself I could go Years without running out, but would consider making some serious money on the side if you got you wish when it comes to ammunition prices.
Oh, did you ever think that the same manufactures that supply the civilian market are also the same ones that supply the military, well there goes the Budget.............
Maybe you should move to Colorado or better yet get the laws changed in your State so you can go into a shop with quality controls and nice people to wait on you.
Yes people get killed in Wars.
I would make my own for $0.15 a bullet.
Like I said, if the risks that come with a criminal lifestyle don't bother you, then have at it.
If they don't meet that demand, then there's less available ammo. That's my goal. See, I have to keep reminding people that I am in no way claiming that my solution would solve all of the problem. My claim has always been that it would reduce the problem. The only question is, by how much? If it reduces annual firearm-related murders from an average of 9000 down to what we see from terrorism, that would be bloody fantastic. Maybe a little optimistic, but it would be great.
Sounds like my idea would make you rich. I'm okay with that. You spent all those years amassing ammo, you deserve to reap the rewards from your investment.
Separate civilian and military pricing.
I like this. You're the first person who's actually attempting to debate the idea instead of trying to deflect to all sorts of nonsense.
Except that would not meet my goal at all so I'm not sure why you think I'd want that.
Not called The Brown Water Navy for nothing lol. I'm afraid I would have fell down laughing to death.I DO know a Gunner's mate who did just that with an old French 8mm Lebel round. he was painting over the side on an LST on the Mekong and an old woman shot at him with an old French Lebel rifle and hit him dead in the ass. They guessed the ammo's powder was not quite up to snuff and lost a lot of power when it hit him. They were able to pull it out and when i met him, he kept it in his desk, but while still in the Navy he wore it in a little glass vile around his neck for good luck. If you saw his wife you would know his luck was working just fine.
As for our bar hero, I do not know of anyone who could possibly get hit dead center in the chest with a .50 caliber round from a Ma Deuce and still be among the living....or even in one piece.
Not interested in money if I'm going against an oppressive government.I calculate that with weekends off you could pull in $156,000/year. That's decent money! You should do it!
Should The government begin to interfere with rights I couldn't care less about that stuff.Unfortunately you wouldn't be able to make any important purchases like homes or cars or anything else you'd have to use a credit card or direct deposit for unless you figure out how to launder your money.
Nope. Im willing to fight to the death for my rights.You're pretty excited at the prospect of being criminal...I'm sorry...freedom fighter...but maybe you haven't thought this through.
This wouldn't work. If you kill off the civilian markets it is going to kill off the vast majority of manufactors as they no longer have an incentive to produce, likely only leaving the one manufactor that gets the government contract thus creating a monopoly. This is why I always find it hilarious about many on the Left crying about crony capitalism and monopolies when it is their short sighted policies that create them.
Not interested in money if I'm going against an oppressive government.
Should The government begin to interfere with rights I couldn't care less about that stuff.
Nope. Im willing to fight to the death for my rights.
Crap 1000? It's all I can do to find them for 7.62x39 tried gun shops,gun shows. Nobody seems to have many, here anyway.
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