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Deep Concern For Americans and Our Global Community - Trumps aims at attacking N.A.T.O Alliance!!!

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We should each and all... be truly enraged to the point to demand the Immediate Removal of Trump and his Entire Administration from Office!!

This is not a statement for the sake of sensationalism... its about act and fact.

(News Article)
House passes NATO bill to send a strong message to Trump
By Ashley Killough and David Siegel, CNN
Updated 7:17 PM ET, Tue January 22, 2019

My Personal Rebuttal Commentary

Deep Concern For Americans and Our Global Community - Trumps aims at attacking N.A.T.O Alliance!!! This is A Hundred % straight out of Putin's Agenda List as if its a directive and mandate given to Trump by Putin himself. As if Putin said directly to Trump: "Try and Break the Back of N.A.T.O.

People we have a Hoodlum who has constructed a system and network of gangsters, as a collective of adversarial agents set out in attack mode on America, and a collaboration of Foreign Subversive Attacks combined with Treasonous acts and every manner of constructive devise to damage not only America, but seeking to destabilize the Global Alliances of the both N.A.T.O and the U.N. - They have worked within the U.S. and groomed and bought and paid for the Presence of Trump being within our Esteemed Office of the Presidency. These acts are a form of War Engaged Upon America, led by the Administration and its Republican System and its Mentality Agenda upon and Against "America as a Nations", "American Democracy" as a Principle and Against... The American People, by the internal acts of promotions of distortions and divisiveness in every sector of the Social Environments Across America.

The Stragety of this War has combined every element of the Agenda Mandates engaged by Confederacy Ideology, Against America Democracy and the American Democratic Ideals and its system of Representative Governance.

Trump has done everything to attack with aims to diminish and fragment our Republic System of Governance, by "IGNORING" Congress, silencing our Senate into a Puppet Regime, Attacking Our Courts, Attacking 'EVERY" Government Agency, Government Department and Government Divisions and leaving Administrative Seats "Unfilled", as an act and aim to Usurp every aspect of American Governance. All white trying to rule over America as Putin does over Russia.

We need to "know what we are witness"... it matter that we take time to "learn how to looks, that we might be able to see" what we are viewing. What we are viewing is "Damaging to America"... its a Manner and Form of War, being fought against America by a Stragetic Devise, not designed to use bullets and bombs, but to "attack and destroy" the Agencies, Departments and Division of Governance, While setting the people "against one another"...

(Part I)
 
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We should each and all... be truly enraged to the point to demand the Immediate Removal of Trump and his Entire Administration from Office!!

This is not a statement for the sake of sensationalism... its about act and fact.

Deep Concern For Americans and Our Global Community - Trumps aims at attacking N.A.T.O Alliance!!! This is A Hundred % straight out of Putin's Agenda List as if its a directive and mandate given to Trump by Putin himself. As if Putin said directly to Trump: "Try and Break the Back of N.A.T.O.

People we have a Hoodlum who has constructed a system and network of gangsters, as a collective of adversarial agents set out in attack mode on America, and a collaboration of Foreign Subversive Attacks combined with Treasonous acts and every manner of constructive devise to damage not only America, but seeking to destabilize the Global Alliances of the both N.A.T.O and the U.N. - They have worked within the U.S. and groomed and bought and paid for the Presence of Trump being within our Esteemed Office of the Presidency. These acts are a form of War Engaged Upon America, led by the Administration and its Republican System and its Mentality Agenda upon and Against "America as a Nations", "American Democracy" as a Principle and Against... The American People, by the internal acts of promotions of distortions and divisiveness in every sector of the Social Environments Across America.

The Stragety of this War has combined every element of the Agenda Mandates engaged by Confederacy Ideology, Against America Democracy and the American Democratic Ideals and its system of Representative Governance.

Trump has done everything to attack with aims to diminish and fragment our Republic System of Governance, by "IGNORING" Congress, silencing our Senate into a Puppet Regime, Attacking Our Courts, Attacking 'EVERY" Government Agency, Government Department and Government Divisions and leaving Administrative Seats "Unfilled", as an act and aim to Usurp every aspect of American Governance. All white trying to rule over America as Putin does over Russia.

We need to "know what we are witness"... it matter that we take time to "learn how to looks, that we might be able to see" what we are viewing. What we are viewing is "Damaging to America"... its a Manner and Form of War, being fought against America by a Stragetic Devise, not designed to use bullets and bombs, but to "attack and destroy" the Agencies, Departments and Division of Governance, While setting the people "against one another"...

(Part I)
This isnt breaking news.

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(Part II)

It's call "ANARCHY BY CONSTRUCT"... It's a multi layered "attack program"... it involves:

(1). "Confounding The People", attack the media, feed drama for the sake of distraction and diversion, and push contempt to enrage people with "prevention, lies, deceptive acts, and agenda of every manner and form of interjecting acts and conduct to destabilize the conscience of the people.

(2). Weaken "EVERY" Department and Division and Agency of the Government, Dismantle the Diplomatic Corp, Damage Diplomacy with direct attacks on our Diplomatic Relations with Every Historical Allie.

(3) Attack Every Organizations of which "American have Global Alliances".

(4). Use the Fear that Drive the Lust for Retention of Office in Elected Official as a tool to "silence them"; by direct threat, attacks and leading a band of the uninformed and under-educated and those of cult like devotion, who were aroused and bonded by and through a cycle of "Belligerent Fest" which Trump called Rallies, (When fact is: the people at the rallies had no concept of ideal why they were being rallied) ((People must realize we do not elect people, for the sake of their aims at protecting the seat in office, they were elected To Do A Job for American and its People" - NOT to be on a perpetual campaign for the sake of their own glory to retain a seat in our governance system))

(5). Promote every aspect and element of Racial Anguish by and through any means for the sake of "Ideological Distortions" and the promotions of an aim to remake a system of "white nationalism", which by its construct was not just about dominance over Non White "races", but about dominance over "gender" in the sense of diminishing the value and stature of woman. ((Thankfully, in this day and time, there are Many White Males who don't care to dominate over other races, and do not care to dominate over women, they care for the principles of "Democracy", which is founded and based in the Integrity of Respect for "Equality" of person, as Individual.

(6). Weaken the systems of American Programming for its Citizens. As In - Voiding Out The Principles of The Preamble, of our own Nations Constitution.
Our Constitutions Preamble states:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. /quote]
This was done by an immediate act to weaken the government’s Finances, by the constructed give away of a nation’s wealth to the wealthy, and encumbering generations to come with burdening governmental economics’ with the damages to the tune of $1.X Trillion Give Away To The Wealthy. As a construct to dismantle Government provisions that meet with the mandates of the Preambles stated values and services to and for the people of the nation and the nation itself. It's constructs involve ignoring any concern to advance education, do damage to the health and well being of the people, ignoring and purposeful neglect of our infrastructure, and many of such elements. The Government Shut down over a Pointless Wall... Demonstrates the Extent the Madness will be enacted and promoted, as we see nationwide damages to society, for the diversionary construct of distractions about a wall no one wants.

"We can continue the list within the "ANARCHY BY CONSTRUCT"... It's a multi layered "attack program"..

THE MESSAGE - that was sent around the world, "WAS AND IS OF GRAVE DANGER TO AMERICA AND THE ALLIED NATIONS" with the point fact and principle of a measure even being brought up that required a vote from Congress about the thought and principle of leaving N.A.T.O is a damage that will reverberate for decades in the global atmosphere, we must know the extent of the damage such a matter being brought before our congress sends to the world.

"Democratic Rep. Jimmy Panetta of California said leaving NATO would be a "historic mistake."
"Because what we have to realize that is NATO is not just a transactional relationship," he said. "Our sole focus can't just be on who pays what and who gets what. Being a member of NATO is not like being a member of a country club."
 

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We should each and all... be truly enraged to the point to demand the Immediate Removal of Trump and his Entire Administration from Office!!

This is not a statement for the sake of sensationalism... its about act and fact.

Deep Concern For Americans and Our Global Community - Trumps aims at attacking N.A.T.O Alliance!!! This is A Hundred % straight out of Putin's Agenda List as if its a directive and mandate given to Trump by Putin himself. As if Putin said directly to Trump: "Try and Break the Back of N.A.T.O.

People we have a Hoodlum who has constructed a system and network of gangsters, as a collective of adversarial agents set out in attack mode on America, and a collaboration of Foreign Subversive Attacks combined with Treasonous acts and every manner of constructive devise to damage not only America, but seeking to destabilize the Global Alliances of the both N.A.T.O and the U.N. - They have worked within the U.S. and groomed and bought and paid for the Presence of Trump being within our Esteemed Office of the Presidency. These acts are a form of War Engaged Upon America, led by the Administration and its Republican System and its Mentality Agenda upon and Against "America as a Nations", "American Democracy" as a Principle and Against... The American People, by the internal acts of promotions of distortions and divisiveness in every sector of the Social Environments Across America.

The Stragety of this War has combined every element of the Agenda Mandates engaged by Confederacy Ideology, Against America Democracy and the American Democratic Ideals and its system of Representative Governance.

Trump has done everything to attack with aims to diminish and fragment our Republic System of Governance, by "IGNORING" Congress, silencing our Senate into a Puppet Regime, Attacking Our Courts, Attacking 'EVERY" Government Agency, Government Department and Government Divisions and leaving Administrative Seats "Unfilled", as an act and aim to Usurp every aspect of American Governance. All white trying to rule over America as Putin does over Russia.

We need to "know what we are witness"... it matter that we take time to "learn how to looks, that we might be able to see" what we are viewing. What we are viewing is "Damaging to America"... its a Manner and Form of War, being fought against America by a Stragetic Devise, not designed to use bullets and bombs, but to "attack and destroy" the Agencies, Departments and Division of Governance, While setting the people "against one another"...

(Part I)

2016: Obama urges NATO allies to start pulling their fair share
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/obama-nato-pay-fair-share-231405
 

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The problem with NATO is that the US pays and the other countries don't. Both in terms of personnel and cash. That's President Trump's point. I agree.

The Democrats don't.

“can’t just be on who pays what and who gets what". A quote from Rep Panetta.

President Trump says if the NATO countries don't fulfill their obligations, we are under no obligation to fulfill ours.

The current House passed bill says the same, but removes any penalty for not doing so.
 

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The problem with NATO is that the US pays and the other countries don't. Both in terms of personnel and cash. That's President Trump's point. I agree.

The Democrats don't.

“can’t just be on who pays what and who gets what". A quote from Rep Panetta.

President Trump says if the NATO countries don't fulfill their obligations, we are under no obligation to fulfill ours.

The current House passed bill says the same, but removes any penalty for not doing so.

Suggesting that the U.S. pays the whole bill is patently false. What is objectionable is Trump's transaction mentality. NATO was responsible for keeping the peace after WWII and it does that. Trump questions its value, which is moronic.

170320054624-nato-chart-spending-percentage-gdp-032017-780x439.jpg

https://money.cnn.com/2017/03/20/news/nato-funding-explained/index.html
 

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NATO has 28 members. Only those 5 you list fulfill their obligations.
22 others contribute, according to the link I provided.

But you didn't address the crux of the issue -- Trump wants to marginalize NATO just as Russian aggression is rising.
 

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22 others contribute, according to the link I provided.

But you didn't address the crux of the issue -- Trump wants to marginalize NATO just as Russian aggression is rising.

5, and only 5, fulfill their financial agreement. Others in some way fulfill at least part, but not all, the manpower agreement.
 

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Suggesting that the U.S. pays the whole bill is patently false. What is objectionable is Trump's transaction mentality. NATO was responsible for keeping the peace after WWII and it does that. Trump questions its value, which is moronic.

170320054624-nato-chart-spending-percentage-gdp-032017-780x439.jpg

https://money.cnn.com/2017/03/20/news/nato-funding-explained/index.html

Then why did Obama ask out NATO allies to pay their fair share ?
I agreed with very little Obama did, but his imploring NATO to start meeting their agreed upon 2% of GDP spending targets was right on the money.
 

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Every one of the 326 million people living in this country, should be absolutely hysterical at this point. We should all be very deeply disturbed and should be pounding on the red alarm button. Trump shouldn't be anywhere near Washington much less have the power of the presidency. He's a VERY dangerous man. Literally, for the first time in U.S. history, war has come to the shores of this country. We're under daily attack every day from people with bad intentions. Just because we don't see bombs going off and people dying in the street doesn't mean we're anywhere close to being safe and preserving this democracy. The most shocking thing to realize is that the enemy that's seeking to destroy us, are our very own. We've become so desensitized to the magnitude of the threat because we're all being sidetracked by the daily muck and mire put out into the news every day.

This slow-rolling denigration of democracy hasn't gone without notice by the majority of people. The reinvention of America is happening right out in the open before our eyes. These are not changes that improve the stability of our democracy. These are corrosive, dangerous and erode and diminish the foundations of our democracy. There are people willing to give up a lot of their freedom and rights as long as their narrow-minded agendas are satisfied. People will stay solidly loyal to Trump as long as they are assured they can keep their guns, get the wall to keep illegals out, have a steady job with money to pay the monthly mortgage, have basic health care, buy food and still be able to take their kids to DisneyWorld once a year. That's all, that's all that 45% of Americans care about. All that other 'stuff' like the bastardization of the U.S. Constitution, the disregard for basic human needs, the demoralizing of minorities, that's all just 'stuff' and doesn't affect their lives directly. And it won't, not right away.

We're in a government shutdown that's been going on for more than a month. The FBI, TSA, DHS, Coast Guard and the multiple agencies that are vigilant every day keeping us safe are feeling the effects of this shutdown. It's not only the 800,000 along with their families that are in harms way, our entire country is in danger. As the shutdown stalemate directly relates to border security, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has been impacted most heavily in terms of national security, accounting for 20 percent of the affected government operations and employees. Essential federal law enforcement agencies under the DHS umbrella, such as the Secret Service and Customs and Border Protection, are being expected to put their lives on the line and continue to work without pay. One CBP agent said that they ordinarily have a translator working with them in order to question people that have been apprehended. But now they don't. In order to question their suspect they must get on the phone and locate someone who can translate as a third party over the phone between them and the suspect. That's just not right.

A protracted shutdown is exposing federal agencies and even private sector companies indirectly involved in homeland security to a higher susceptibility of cyber incursion, insider threat, and general counterintelligence exploitation due to the lack of appropriate specialists on staff. Let there be no doubt that there are foreign adversaries at work right now and every day that are seeking to capitalize on the U.S. government’s evident vulnerabilities during this shutdown scenario. Don't believe for a second that our country isn't susceptible to foreign takeover right now. Any 'takeover' of the U.S. will not necessarily be with violence such as nuclear bombs dropping or invading military forces crossing our shores. Instead it will be a quiet one, a peaceful one, one that many aren't even aware is happening. Eventually, communications could be disrupted, control of nuclear plants taken over, interruptions of the organizations that make up the country’s “critical infrastructure” industries, including electrical operators and financial institutions. Even a temporary interruption by hacking into top security agencies like the DHS, NSA, FBI and others can be catastrophic to this country.

I just wish that everyone could take a few steps back, take a deep breath and see it with an unbiased eye, just for a few minutes. Take down the animus and instinct to strike back at opponents just long enough to see the bigger picture here. We are at the point that those with 'eyes wide shut' are becoming a factor, not merely an adjunct, to the powers that are weakening us from the inside out. We are not each others enemy, we are one country and if divided, we're destined to fall.
 

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Then why did Obama ask out NATO allies to pay their fair share ?
I agreed with very little Obama did, but his imploring NATO to start meeting their agreed upon 2% of GDP spending targets was right on the money.
You still deflect from the real problem. Trump sees no value in NATO and downplays the growing Russian aggression as a threat. That is one reason he's likely a Russian agent.
 

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22 others contribute, according to the link I provided.

But you didn't address the crux of the issue -- Trump wants to marginalize NATO just as Russian aggression is rising.

This bull**** about NATO countries not paying their fair share is something that should be a non-issue at this vital juncture and we absolutely must consider the consequences of a possible U.S. pullout of NATO. Putting it simply, it would be catastrophic globally.

Let me be clear here, Putin hates NATO and the 29 countries it represents and pulling out of NATO strengthens Putin's hand. Putin has always seen NATO as a threat to his borders and to his military. He sees NATO as a superior military alliance, which it is. He's avoided confrontations with NATO because he simply knows he would lose the fight. The strength of NATO lays in Article 5, an agreement which says if any of the 29 member countries is attacked the other members including the U.S. are duty-bound to step in and defend it.

While Putin has not attacked a NATO country he has harassed NATO forces by having his fighter jets buzz American ships and planes near Europe. Putin's submarines and ships routinely spy on American and European vessels and he has built up his weapons arsenals near NATO borders. Experts warn that if Trump pulls out of NATO that Putin could become even more aggressive. We would see a Putin that is much more emboldened to use military force and potentially occupying parts of the Baltic countries and he would certainly be emboldened to be much more provocative and seek to disrupt the politics even into Western Europe. This from Putin's perspective would be a game changer.

The U.S. withdrawing from NATO would leave every ally in Europe vulnerable and eventually jeopardize the geopolitical safety nets we have in place only because of NATO.
 

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We should each and all... be truly enraged to the point to demand the Immediate Removal of Trump and his Entire Administration from Office!!

This is not a statement for the sake of sensationalism... its about act and fact.

(News Article)
House passes NATO bill to send a strong message to Trump
By Ashley Killough and David Siegel, CNN
Updated 7:17 PM ET, Tue January 22, 2019

My Personal Rebuttal Commentary

Deep Concern For Americans and Our Global Community - Trumps aims at attacking N.A.T.O Alliance!!! This is A Hundred % straight out of Putin's Agenda List as if its a directive and mandate given to Trump by Putin himself. As if Putin said directly to Trump: "Try and Break the Back of N.A.T.O.

People we have a Hoodlum who has constructed a system and network of gangsters, as a collective of adversarial agents set out in attack mode on America, and a collaboration of Foreign Subversive Attacks combined with Treasonous acts and every manner of constructive devise to damage not only America, but seeking to destabilize the Global Alliances of the both N.A.T.O and the U.N. - They have worked within the U.S. and groomed and bought and paid for the Presence of Trump being within our Esteemed Office of the Presidency. These acts are a form of War Engaged Upon America, led by the Administration and its Republican System and its Mentality Agenda upon and Against "America as a Nations", "American Democracy" as a Principle and Against... The American People, by the internal acts of promotions of distortions and divisiveness in every sector of the Social Environments Across America.

The Stragety of this War has combined every element of the Agenda Mandates engaged by Confederacy Ideology, Against America Democracy and the American Democratic Ideals and its system of Representative Governance.

Trump has done everything to attack with aims to diminish and fragment our Republic System of Governance, by "IGNORING" Congress, silencing our Senate into a Puppet Regime, Attacking Our Courts, Attacking 'EVERY" Government Agency, Government Department and Government Divisions and leaving Administrative Seats "Unfilled", as an act and aim to Usurp every aspect of American Governance. All white trying to rule over America as Putin does over Russia.

We need to "know what we are witness"... it matter that we take time to "learn how to looks, that we might be able to see" what we are viewing. What we are viewing is "Damaging to America"... its a Manner and Form of War, being fought against America by a Stragetic Devise, not designed to use bullets and bombs, but to "attack and destroy" the Agencies, Departments and Division of Governance, While setting the people "against one another"...

(Part I)

Democrats seem to know more about Putin's agenda and what he is thinking than they do what Trump is thinking. The real problem here is that the democrat mob as a whole doesn't know what the hell it is trying to think.
 

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HumblePi;1069585964 Post #14

Excellent Post !!!! .... I hope people truly listen, think and learn and stand..... the old principle of continuous drops on a stone will eventually make a hole in the stone" and people need to understand that. We have today, EVERYDAY... high pressure drops being thrust upon the stone of this Nation and Its Democracy. It Cannot Be Ignored!!! Nor Can It Be Downplayed !!!!

We have need of urgency... and that Urgency means, Removing Trump and His Administration, Charging them with Subversive Acts Upon and Against America and Treason by Acts of Collusion. He should be placed in Jail... and never live to see the outside of a jail again - Lock him up for a Life Term!!! Censure and Sanction the Republican Congressional Members who aided and abeted the Subversive acts, and Charge them "Republican Congresspersons" using principles learned in example by English Law, with Treason Felony Definition: (Treason felony is an indictable-only offence. It is punishable with imprisonment for life or any shorter term.)

We better learn quickly How To Protect Our Democracy and move forward with determination and conviction and execution of actions to do so.
 

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22 others contribute, according to the link I provided.

But you didn't address the crux of the issue -- Trump wants to marginalize NATO just as Russian aggression is rising.

That may be the crux of your issue, but it's not the crux of the President's issue.

The President is saying that most of NATO is not fulfilling their part of the bargain.
 

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This isnt breaking news.

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Is it EVEN NEWS AT ALL. his link comes from the Politics section of CNN - it's an opinion/hit piece.
 

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That may be the crux of your issue, but it's not the crux of the President's issue.

The President is saying that most of NATO is not fulfilling their part of the bargain.
As I said previously, this Prez is transactional. He cares about who pays and how much more than he cares whether we avoid a world war. He also doesn't mind making policy that enables Putin.
 
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