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As would our population.
Somehow I believe you are sufficiently intelligent to realize that neither China nor Iran can be relied upon to furnish accurate figures with respect to anything relating to their internal affairs.myshkin said:Does this mean that we exceed even China and Iran?Originally Posted by Fantasea
Not to put too fine a point on it, I recall reading somewhere that the efficiency and effectiveness of the law enforcement and judicial systems in the US is the reason that the prison population is what it is.
Of course, if there were more law abiding folks, there would be fewer in the pokey, wouldn't there?
"I don't like that law.", does not justify disobeying it.
sebastiansdreams said:Also, you must realize, countries with fewer laws inevitably have fewer crimes. If we made murder legal, our crime rate would plumit.
Fantasea said:Somehow I believe you are sufficiently intelligent to realize that neither China nor Iran can be relied upon to furnish accurate figures with respect to anything relating to their internal affairs.
My guess is that in both countries, justice is swift, sure, and exceptionally severe. Neither country would spend money keeping career criminals alive.
A result, no doubt, of the brilliant efforts of the social engineers who sought to purify the populace by separating those it could not educate from those it could.myshkin said:True, most of those incarcerated are in prison for offenses that were not criminal at the beginning of the 20th century.
Fantasea said:Not to put too fine a point on it, I recall reading somewhere that the efficiency and effectiveness of the law enforcement and judicial systems in the US is the reason that the prison population is what it is.
Of course, if there were more law abiding folks, there would be fewer in the pokey, wouldn't there?
"I don't like that law.", does not justify disobeying it.
I wonder whether this could be a result of union activity? One of the last bastions of union representation is among the folks involved in the justice system; the police, the court officers, the prison personnel, the parole officers, etc. One positive aspect of all the US criminality is the enhancement of the vocational stability of all involved. No?myshkin said:Originally Posted by Fantasea
Not to put too fine a point on it, I recall reading somewhere that the efficiency and effectiveness of the law enforcement and judicial systems in the US is the reason that the prison population is what it is.
Of course, if there were more law abiding folks, there would be fewer in the pokey, wouldn't there?
"I don't like that law.", does not justify disobeying it.
"Land of the Free" efficiencies seem to be reaching new heights:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...how/1088308.cms
satinloveslibs said:I say that we get pretty strict. Singapore rules!
Fantasea said:I wonder whether this could be a result of union activity? One of the last bastions of union representation is among the folks involved in the justice system; the police, the court officers, the prison personnel, the parole officers, etc. One positive aspect of all the US criminality is the enhancement of the vocational stability of all involved. No?
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Given the fact that the majority of inmates are undereducated, at best, and more likely to be illiterate, we'd be even better off if the public school system got back to its roots and ensured that all kids became proficient in reading in the very early grades.myshkin said:You got it. This is our answer to unemployment. Lock half up and have the other half watch them.Originally Posted by Fantasea
I wonder whether this could be a result of union activity? One of the last bastions of union representation is among the folks involved in the justice system; the police, the court officers, the prison personnel, the parole officers, etc. One positive aspect of all the US criminality is the enhancement of the vocational stability of all involved. No?
I think we were better off with the factories.
Fantasea said:Given the fact that the majority of inmates are undereducated, at best, and more likely to be illiterate, we'd be even better off if the public school system got back to its roots and ensured that all kids became proficient in reading in the very early grades.
The fact that they can't read by the third grade dooms them to failure because from there on, everything depends on text books which have to be read and examinations which require both reading and writing skills.
If anyone is interested in why the drop out rates are what they are, the answer lies in the preceding sentence.