Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin got themselves killed.
Trayvon had no "battle wounds" except the gunshot --- the evidence shows he was on top of Zimmerman beating him up. The witnesses closest to the scene corroborate that.
Tres, I realize we are on opposing sides of the Trump thingy, but consider the alternative.
Yet none of that makes "your" description of what happen to be factual. You have your opinion and you are welcome to it. What I know is neither of us was there and there was no evidence that shows "Martin was the aggressor the entire time and got himself killed"
He was on top, he beat Zimmerman, and when he was shot, he was still on top, which are the parts that matter, and mattered to the court and the jury. We really shouldn't derail this thread with questioning the jury or the evidence in the Zimmerman case though.
Yet none of that makes "your" description of what happen to be factual. You have your opinion and you are welcome to it. What I know is neither of us was there and there was no evidence that shows "Martin was the aggressor the entire time and got himself killed"
No, just really stupid, offensive things.
You're not outraged that Hillary and the DNC want to continue to crucify police officers and perpetuate the lie that they just want to kill black people?
He was on top, he beat Zimmerman, and when he was shot, he was still on top, which are the parts that matter, and mattered to the court and the jury. We really shouldn't derail this thread with questioning the jury or the evidence in the Zimmerman case though.
Hello straw man. Glenn gave you a really bad argument to try.
No one said anything about that, I said the statement that "martin was the aggressor the whole time and got himself killed" isn't a factual statement, is that unreasonable? I would never say anything like that because there's no evidence to support that.Is that unreasonable? I don't want to derail the thread either which is why I sad people are free to have thier opinions. Is that unreasonable?
Oh, here we go again. Nothing else to say but "Glenn Beck!!!!!!" I haven't listened to him in years Redress. Time for a new insult.
That's not a strawman --- BLM's main mantra is that white policeman are just out to kill black people.
Are the people invited BLM?
By definition it was your opinion. Your statement was "Martin was the aggressor the whole time and he got himself killed" There's no evidence that makes that statement a fact. Never said he was guilty of murder but I did watch the trial and listen to all the evidence, that's exactly the thing that lets me know your statement is just you opinion and not factual."My description" was evidence in the trial, not an opinion. If he wasn't the aggressor that would mean he would have injuries consistent with being beat up by Zimmerman. He wasn't the one being beat up --- he wasn't the one on the bottom being pinned down, punched and his head smashed into the side of the sidewalk. His only injury was the gunshot. There is no other conclusion to make. Travyon was on top beating the **** out of Zimmerman. The jury heard all the evidence --- I and many others here watched the entire trial and heard all the evidence (even evidence the jury didn't hear) and 90% of people came to the same conclusion ---- not guilty of murder. That doesn't mean Zimmerman is a good guy -- he's a total idiot and paranoid.
I know the media sensationalists portrayed it differently. If you didn't actually watch the trial and listen to all the evidence, I can see how you'd come to a different conclusion.
Hello straw man. Glenn gave you a really bad argument to try.
By definition it was your opinion. Your statement was "Martin was the aggressor the whole time and he got himself killed" There's no evidence that makes that statement a fact. Never said he was guilty of murder but I did watch the trial and listen to all the evidence, that's exactly the thing that lets me know your statement is just you opinion and not factual.
Thank you. I really don't want to relitigate the Martin case.
I can't understand this, at all. And there is no logical explanation for it.
Uh, yes. Why wouldn't they be?
Reaklt? Mothers of the Movement are BLM? Some one should probably let them know...
No one said anything about that, I said the statement that "martin was the aggressor the whole time and got himself killed" isn't a factual statement, is that unreasonable? I would never say anything like that because there's no evidence to support that.Is that unreasonable? I don't want to derail the thread either which is why I sad people are free to have thier opinions. Is that unreasonable?
It's just more evidence of the politics of division and creating support through racial rage. I'm not just concerned, I'm ****ing pissed at the DNC that they are portraying, once again, that blacks are systemically oppressed by whites by holding up criminals as though they were victims of white people killing blacks for racial reasons when they actually were responsible for their own deaths by their own actions. It's **** like that which leads to police and others being ambushed and assassinated.
If they want to talk about children and families, then lets have a real discussion of why, as the Dallas police chief said, 70% of black children are born to single mothers?!?! How can we expect children to have a decent childhood when they are intentionally born into such situations? That's just part of what we need to talk about, not about how the white system is killing "innocent" children.
But no, that doesn't get people into the streets, or to the voting booth.
But there is. That's why the jury decided "not guilty".
Is it a fact that Trayvon had no injuries other than a gunshot wound?