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Danger Will Robinson! Trump and Pompeo openly praise putin for his acts of war against the ukraine.

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The clips will be all over the mainstream media all day for anyone to see before anyone asks for a link.

I have to question what happened to the gop? Are these comments from a past president praising putin for invading another country really ok with republicans?

Are these the kind of people we want running america?
 

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Trump claimed he "filled up the strategic reserves" during a special one month sale on oil. It was the most idiotic thing I've ever heard come out of a President's mouth.

Trump is a Putin asset.
 

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The clips will be all over the mainstream media all day for anyone to see before anyone asks for a link.

etc etc

Could be a way of opening the can of worms which is Biden Crime Family corruption in Ukraine which could lead to

Sleepy being declared too ill to stand trial for treason but bringing down the Dumbos and filling up a lot of those

new cells in Gitmo .
 

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The clips will be all over the mainstream media all day for anyone to see before anyone asks for a link.

I have to question what happened to the gop? Are these comments from a past president praising putin for invading another country really ok with republicans?

Are these the kind of people we want running america?
shrug...

Provide the quote when it's available, please.

Is this thread what you call "pre-spin"?
 

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shrug...

Provide the quote when it's available, please.

Is this thread what you call "pre-spin"?

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, what went wrong was a rigged election and what went wrong is a candidate that shouldn’t be there and a man that has no concept of what he’s doing. I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius.” Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.

So, Putin is now saying, “It’s independent,” a large section of Ukraine. I said, “How smart is that?” And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy… I know him very well. Very, very well.

By the way, this never would have happened with us. Had I been in office, not even thinkable. This would never have happened. But here’s a guy that says, you know, “I’m gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent,” he used the word “independent,” “and we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.” You gotta say that’s pretty savvy. And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response. They didn’t have one for that. No, it’s very sad. Very sad.


Trump is the reason Putin thinks it's ok to waltz into Ukraine. He agrees with Putin, Ukraine is corrupt, do something. Despite wanting a Trump Hotel there, Ukraine equals an attempted impeachment, and Hunter Biden to Trump.

Do you think Trump is saying, hey, Putin's my bud and wouldn't do this if I were president? Seriously? Is the U.S. now just a personal journey for Trump?
 

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The clips will be all over the mainstream media all day for anyone to see before anyone asks for a link.

I have to question what happened to the gop? Are these comments from a past president praising putin for invading another country really ok with republicans?

Are these the kind of people we want running america?

The same Mike Pompeo who was caught violating ethics rules?

The man is an anti-American piece of shit, just like Trump.

Here are some more instances of Pompeo orgasming about Putin. He's a piece of shit.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article258638383.html
 

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shrug...

Provide the quote when it's available, please.

Is this thread what you call "pre-spin"?

So now you're going to pretend you didn't hear what they both said?

Maybe you should watch the real news and get off The Conservative Treehouse.
 

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Trump praises Putin's 'genius' as GOP fissures grow on Ukraine crisis

It is astounding to see the rapidity with which Trump sycophants run to support his praise of Putin, completely ignoring loyalty to country or reality in the process. "As congressional Republican leaders push President Joe Biden to act more forcefully to punish Vladimir Putin for sending troops into Ukraine, former GOP President Donald Trump and some of his prominent allies have been praising the Russian leader’s style of power.

The fissures point to a growing divide in the Republican Party, between traditional foreign policy hawks who have advocated for a more confrontational U.S. posture to the Russian strongman and a Trump-aligned “MAGA” faction that has expressed some sympathy for Putin's tactics or described them as effective." Sickening.

"Fox News host Tucker Carlson has for weeks been leading the charge against taking action to stop Russia, even as some of his colleagues have expressed the opposite position by attacking Biden for not doing enough to deter Moscow.

Bannon and pro-Trump commentator Jack Posobiec praised Putin’s pugilistic speech on their podcast, while Gateway Pundit, a popular hub of pro-Trump conspiracy theories and news, downplayed Russia’s aggression. “Ukraine was part of Russia for more than 300 years," the site declared. “This is not Russian talking points.”" Yeah, riiiiight. "Trump, meanwhile, sent a statement to his email list Tuesday with a single link to a story on RT.com, the website of the Kremlin-backed Russian television network."
 

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shrug...

Provide the quote when it's available, please.

Is this thread what you call "pre-spin"?

Trump called the invasion “genius” and said the US should do the same thing with northern Mexico.
 

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Another Xiden distraction thread 👍
 

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Fox News Host Mocked For Bonkers Defense Of Trump's Praise For Putin (HuffPo) - I thought this was satire when I first saw this.

“No organism, no entity, has done more to spread Russian propaganda and to prop up the strawman that is Vladimir Putin than our very own media,” Hegseth said hours after Trump praised Putin’s actions in Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy.”
Trump, Hegseth suggested, didn’t really mean it. He was just toying with the media.

Donald Trump was happy to troll them on it as he continues to do to this moment,” Hegseth said. “Because they can’t resist it, and they’ll obsess over it.”

It's the "saying the quiet part out loud" aspect of this that is so hilarious. Does he not know that he's on an open mike?
 

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FFS, I was a child of the Cold War, and if you had told sweet baby WillyPete that same the political party that elected Reagan would empower Trump, he'd say you were either a goofball or on goofballs.

And yet here we are, and you can't even get good goofballs any more.
 

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Fox News Host Mocked For Bonkers Defense Of Trump's Praise For Putin (HuffPo) - I thought this was satire when I first saw this.

“No organism, no entity, has done more to spread Russian propaganda and to prop up the strawman that is Vladimir Putin than our very own media,” Hegseth said hours after Trump praised Putin’s actions in Ukraine as “genius” and “savvy.”
Trump, Hegseth suggested, didn’t really mean it. He was just toying with the media.

Donald Trump was happy to troll them on it as he continues to do to this moment,” Hegseth said. “Because they can’t resist it, and they’ll obsess over it.”

It's the "saying the quiet part out loud" aspect of this that is so hilarious. Does he not know that he's on an open mike?

Trump openly praises Putin.
Conservative propaganda: He's just trolling stupid libs, who fell for it! Stupid libs!
 

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Trump is the reason Putin thinks it's ok to waltz into Ukraine. He agrees with Putin, Ukraine is corrupt, do something. Despite wanting a Trump Hotel there, Ukraine equals an attempted impeachment, and Hunter Biden to Trump.

Do you think Trump is saying, hey, Putin's my bud and wouldn't do this if I were president? Seriously? Is the U.S. now just a personal journey for Trump?
This is what Trump is saying: "And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response. They didn’t have one for that. No, it’s very sad. Very sad."

So no...Trump is not the reason Putin thinks it's okay to waltz into Ukraine. Weak Biden is the reason.

Impeachment and Hunter Biden are irrelevant.
 

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So now you're going to pretend you didn't hear what they both said?

Maybe you should watch the real news and get off The Conservative Treehouse.
I depend on you to give me the news. (Of course, I also have to dismiss your constant spin, too.)
 

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The clips will be all over the mainstream media all day for anyone to see before anyone asks for a link.

I have to question what happened to the gop? Are these comments from a past president praising putin for invading another country really ok with republicans?

Are these the kind of people we want running america?
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http://www.motherjones.com/politics...candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic


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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dennis-van-roekel/exposing-alecs-agenda-to-_b_3223651.html

 

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Trump praises Putin's 'genius' as GOP fissures grow on Ukraine crisis

It is astounding to see the rapidity with which Trump sycophants run to support his praise of Putin, completely ignoring loyalty to country or reality in the process. "As congressional Republican leaders push President Joe Biden to act more forcefully to punish Vladimir Putin for sending troops into Ukraine, former GOP President Donald Trump and some of his prominent allies have been praising the Russian leader’s style of power.

The fissures point to a growing divide in the Republican Party, between traditional foreign policy hawks who have advocated for a more confrontational U.S. posture to the Russian strongman and a Trump-aligned “MAGA” faction that has expressed some sympathy for Putin's tactics or described them as effective." Sickening.

"Fox News host Tucker Carlson has for weeks been leading the charge against taking action to stop Russia, even as some of his colleagues have expressed the opposite position by attacking Biden for not doing enough to deter Moscow.

Bannon and pro-Trump commentator Jack Posobiec praised Putin’s pugilistic speech on their podcast, while Gateway Pundit, a popular hub of pro-Trump conspiracy theories and news, downplayed Russia’s aggression. “Ukraine was part of Russia for more than 300 years," the site declared. “This is not Russian talking points.”" Yeah, riiiiight. "Trump, meanwhile, sent a statement to his email list Tuesday with a single link to a story on RT.com, the website of the Kremlin-backed Russian television network."
When your entire psyche is a product of lies, this kinda shit is destined to happen.
 

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A History of ALEC & The People's Resistance​

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PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, what went wrong was a rigged election and what went wrong is a candidate that shouldn’t be there and a man that has no concept of what he’s doing. I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, “This is genius.” Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine. Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that’s wonderful.

So, Putin is now saying, “It’s independent,” a large section of Ukraine. I said, “How smart is that?” And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s strongest peace force… We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace all right. No, but think of it. Here’s a guy who’s very savvy… I know him very well. Very, very well.

By the way, this never would have happened with us. Had I been in office, not even thinkable. This would never have happened. But here’s a guy that says, you know, “I’m gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent,” he used the word “independent,” “and we’re gonna go out and we’re gonna go in and we’re gonna help keep peace.” You gotta say that’s pretty savvy. And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response. They didn’t have one for that. No, it’s very sad. Very sad.



Trump is the reason Putin thinks it's ok to waltz into Ukraine. He agrees with Putin, Ukraine is corrupt, do something. Despite wanting a Trump Hotel there, Ukraine equals an attempted impeachment, and Hunter Biden to Trump.

Do you think Trump is saying, hey, Putin's my bud and wouldn't do this if I were president? Seriously? Is the U.S. now just a personal journey for Trump?
I think people's reading of quotes is very very different.

To me he is simply saying "This wouldn't have happened under me and Biden is ineffectual, as we see here"

Personally I'd have preferred Obama, or Clinton, or Bush, or Reagan, or Ike, or Lincoln, pretty much anyone else at this point.
 

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This is what Trump is saying: "And you know what the response was from Biden? There was no response. They didn’t have one for that. No, it’s very sad. Very sad."

So no...Trump is not the reason Putin thinks it's okay to waltz into Ukraine. Weak Biden is the reason.

Impeachment and Hunter Biden are irrelevant.
That has always been the claim. "Weak Biden."

And yet not one right winger has ever actually proposed a single "strong" action that would have potentially stopped these events from unfolding the way they have.
 

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That has always been the claim. "Weak Biden."

And yet not one right winger has ever actually proposed a single "strong" action that would have potentially stopped these events from unfolding the way they have.
We're dealing with children here.
 
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