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Danger for democrats (take 2)

Which is more dangerous to the democrat party?

  • Trump colluding with Russia

    Votes: 13 43.3%
  • Trump not colluding with Russia

    Votes: 17 56.7%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .
Trump getting away with colluding with Russia, now Mueller is not doing his job?

I know you can't get over Crooked Hillary losing to Trump. How do you deal with that?

Hillary who ? It this another of trump's whores ?
 
Mueller is doing a fantastic job, 33 people indicted. Trump's personal lawyer, National Security Advisor, and campaign manager all guilty, 2 of them going to prison.

We should have a report very soon detailing Trump's Russian dealings. What more could we ask for?

While I don't want this to be real repub witch hunt as $60 million over 6 years was for Clinton, For that to happen, the mother of all shocks

comes to mind...assholes re-election.
 
No Collusion.



Using your own words: "Trump getting away with colluding with Russia." That could only happen by Mueller not doing his job.

Plenty, plenty collusion and the repubs wouldn't vote out Pol Pot, so.....?
 
All I can say is your hair will on fire, soon as you get the word there is no collusion. You libs will be crying and whimpering Trump beat Crooked Hillary and now there is no collusion, :boohoo:

Nothing wrong with wishful thinking.
 
Never happen. Mueller is the greatest, most meticulous, honorable prosecutor in the history of the universe. Haven't you heard?

Well he was when he served repubs.

Now that he is investigating a repub, well we all know now, he...has to be corrupt.
 
Liberals are big into groupthinks, they will never admit anything. They have already been programmed to believe Trump is a Manchurian candidate/president. Now if there’s overwhelming need to change the story then the Ministry of Truth will update the story, the left will receive the new programming and proceed as if they never believed Trump was a Russian plant, but the point remains, their philosophy comes from central leadership and dissent is quelled Orwellian style in the party.

This actually made me laugh. Trump is the last candidate to be a manchurian candidate.

A real manchurian candidate is required to reason and in complete sentences and have cogent thoughts.

That clearly eliminates trump.

And also why if there is a deep state, they are laughing their asses off over this clown.

If he can be turned by the Russians, then he is truly a marshmallow and totally compromised

and thus now, totally unreliable to any real deep state. Hence what I am sure there is non-stop laughter.
 
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The wording of this poll is troublesome. Instead of "danger to Democrats", why isn't it a danger to Americans? If the president of the United states is colluding (or conspiring) with a hostile foreign power to advance the interest of said foreign power over the interest of the United States, that isn't a partisan problem; it's an American problem.

Because the right clearly doesn't care about country as long its blue taxpayers protect their mostly rich white republican asses.

Don't ever forget now, the repubs rather be Russians than democrats.

All the right cares about is power and money. See tax 'reform' and for 40 years.
 
Liberals are big into groupthinks, they will never admit anything. They have already been programmed to believe Trump is a Manchurian candidate/president. Now if there’s overwhelming need to change the story then the Ministry of Truth will update the story, the left will receive the new programming and proceed as if they never believed Trump was a Russian plant, but the point remains, their philosophy comes from central leadership and dissent is quelled Orwellian style in the party.

Projection: it’s what’s for dinner
 
It's fairly obvious that Trump did collude with Russia. Really, if it's so obvious to you then post up proof that shows just how obvious it is.
We already know for a fact that Manafort and Donald Jr met with the Russians at Trump Tower. That leaves us with two possible conclusions we can draw. One, Trump knew. Two, Trump has no institutional control over his campaign. So if you want to try and convince me that Trump is an imbecile who has no clue what people directly underneath him are doing then it's pretty obvious.

More than that though. We've seen numerous times over the last few years college and professional coaches getting fired because people they were responsible for overseeing committed crimes right under their nose. While these coaches play ignorant and pretend they didn't know it doesn't fly. It's your responsibility to know.

It's really obvious, right. Prove it.
Just because you lack the mental capacity to grasp what is right in front of you're nose doesn't mean it hasn't been proven. People like you are like flat-earthers. There is no measure of evidence that you would ever admit crosses the burden into proof so there's really no point in even discussing it with you further.
 
Gloat while you can. There is no one crookeder than Trump. Theoretical physicists had to introduce 8 new spatial dimensions to model how crooked Trump is.

donald-trump-couldnt-resist-gloating-over-the-epic-miss-universe-fail.jpg
 
Well he was when he served repubs.

Now that he is investigating a repub, well we all know now, he...has to be corrupt.

I don't think he's corrupt at all. I think he is doing exactly what he was tasked to do. And Trump is as much of a Republican as Joe Scarborough is. I get a kick out of the dems when they say so-and-so thinks Trump is working with the Russians, and he's a "republican"! The reason a lot of so called "republicans" are against Trump is because Trump isn't an establishment republican, or and insider. The WH was occupied by somebody named Bush or Clinton for 20 of the prior 28 years. The Bushies and Slick Willie are all in the same elite establishment club. People like Michael Steele, W., and Joe Scarborough are never Trumpers. They hate him because he is an outsider, just as most of congress does, including the ones that appear to support him. Between the MSM, congress and an unwitting electorate, there will never be an outsider elected POTUS, at least in our lifetime. Unless one is a career politician and card carrying member of "the establishment", they will never get anointed by the MSM, Oprah, or anybody else. Besides, what other choice did conservatives have? Hillary? I'll be honest, I haven't voted since Reagan was in office, and I didn't vote this time, for personal reasons. But I am DEFINITELY voting next time. And it will be for the republican candidate no matter what. After seeing the left lurching toward socialism, open borders, abolishing ICE, the electoral college and the 2nd amendment, it's too much to risk. These millennial democrats/socialists make Obama look like a John Bircher!:shock: Me, I'm basically a republican with libertarian leanings.:peace
 
What is more dangerous for the democrats:

Trump colluding. How is this even a question? Having a sitting US president colluding with a hostile foreign government to undermine our national election and probably being manipulated is far worse than him not. You super political hacks are rediculous.
 
Hillary who ? It this another of trump's whores ?

No Hillary was one of Clinton's whores along with 12 more that he ****ed in front of Hillary and his daughter. And one of his whores was an 22 yr old intern that he was getting all his blowjobs from in the oval office.
 
We already know for a fact that Manafort and Donald Jr met with the Russians at Trump Tower. That leaves us with two possible conclusions we can draw. One, Trump knew. Two, Trump has no institutional control over his campaign. So if you want to try and convince me that Trump is an imbecile who has no clue what people directly underneath him are doing then it's pretty obvious.

Prove the collusion.

More than that though. We've seen numerous times over the last few years college and professional coaches getting fired because people they were responsible for overseeing committed crimes right under their nose. While these coaches play ignorant and pretend they didn't know it doesn't fly. It's your responsibility to know.

Prove the collusion

Just because you lack the mental capacity to grasp what is right in front of you're nose doesn't mean it hasn't been proven.

Prove the collusion, you have no mental capacity to prove anything. If it's been proven then it should be easy even for you to provide the proof.

People like you are like flat-earthers. There is no measure of evidence that you would ever admit crosses the burden into proof so there's really no point in even discussing it with you further.

People like you are full of bull**** and can't prove a damn thing. Try it, trouble is you have no capacity to prove anything
 
No Collusion.



Using your own words: "Trump getting away with colluding with Russia." That could only happen by Mueller not doing his job.

No, it will happen if the Republicans in the Senate fail to do theirs..... which, is more likely than not. Then again, what is also more likely than not is the Senate and White House flipping in 2020.

As to collusion, you have posted "no collusion" in this thread about as many times as Trump as said it. Seems to me you are just as worried as he. If there was no collusion, there is an awful lot of 'splanin' to do.
 
If there isn't enough evidence to nail Trump by Mueller, you'll claim "Trump got away with colluding with Russia." But you will not have a shred of evidence to prove your claim.

So what? Didn't you just post "there isn't enough evidence"...meaning there is more than a shred? Isn't there a pizza parlor in DC that needs you?
 
Liberals are big into groupthinks, they will never admit anything. They have already been programmed to believe Trump is a Manchurian candidate/president. Now if there’s overwhelming need to change the story then the Ministry of Truth will update the story, the left will receive the new programming and proceed as if they never believed Trump was a Russian plant, but the point remains, their philosophy comes from central leadership and dissent is quelled Orwellian style in the party.

That is quite a load of BS. Did you make it up yourself?
 
I'll answer your poll if you answer mine:

Barack Hussein Obama -

1. Great president; or
2. Greatest president?
I'll give Obama "good President", maybe even great, but not greatest.

He was a competent corporatist democrat president.

We've had too many.
 
Trump not colluding with Russia. The libs hair will be on fire, they all thought Crooked Hillary was a shoe in to win. They got that dead wrong and for the last two years they have bet the farm on Trump colluding with Russia. And they'll get that one wrong, making asses out of the themselves. Could be they just roll over and die knowing they lost to Trump and there was no collusion. You never know.
are you a mini Trump??? a zombie Trump supporter wow. Trump and Putin gonna rip this country blind and you folks cant see that ...trump got you people played like a fiddle By the way The dems have lost before ..elections so what makes this so different you have not heard one democrate in the last 2 years say anything worth talking about an election...only trump brings it up. ignorant fools
 
Can anyone tell me what "colluding with Russia" means? How much contact, over what issues, and with what intent does collusion occur? What do you suspect Trump did in that regard?

I'm sure you could look this up...but personally I would say if the campaign were in any way aware that Russia was seeking to interfere, and did not immediately and publicly call this out. I suspect he knew about Russian hacking, about release of emails, about his campaign manager's relationships with Russian operatives, about his son's meeting in Trump tower, about Flynn's and Session's meeting with Russians, about Papadoupolos, Gates, and Roger Stone. Also about Cambridge Analytica, and on and on, even maybe a yellow shower or two. If he didn't know any of this, one would have to think him incredibly STUPID. So which would you rather?
 
Collusion is like when Obama told the Russians he would be more flexible after getting elected again

I think that is an erroneous comparison. Obama would be more flexible to publicly deal with Russia in a more favorable way. That would be LEGAL.
 
That is quite a load of BS. Did you make it up yourself?

No, the democrats did. Look at how leftists responded to Tulsi Gabbards very common sense criticism of Hironos anti-Catholic bigotry. Dissent may not be tolerated


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