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Cuba’s Health Care System: a Model for the World

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Cuba has the world’s first lung cancer vaccine & HIV prevention pill + no more mother-child HIV transmission. Groundbreaking technology created under crippling 60 year trade embargo.
P.S. For information: after Chernobyl, Cuba was the only country, that accepted tens of thousands of affected children for treatment for free and never reminded Russia about it.
Why does Cuba, which is under a severe blockade, have several of its own vaccines, while Israel, for eхample, with a similar population size, has none? Maybe it's all about different philosophies of existence?
P.P.S. "Lord Hendy and 17 other British parliamentarians have nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize Cuban doctors who help millions of people cope with the coronavirus in 39 countries around the world"

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cubas-health-care-system-_b_5649968
 
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I know Cuba has done a lot of work over the years on vaccine development. Cuba's advantage in this area is partly a result of a high priority given to education. They have one of the oldest universities in the Americas and education at all levels is free.
 
Cuba's advantage in this area is partly a result of a high priority given to education. They have one of the oldest universities in the Americas and education at all levels is free.

I think the сubans deserve more sanctions for this shameless violation of propaganda efforts about the superiority of capitalism!
 
I think the сubans deserve more sanctions for this shameless violation of propaganda efforts about the superiority of capitalism!
Well I'm not a Communist and Capitalism is superior. But Cuba does excel at some things: vaccines and all-inclusive vacations 🏝🍹

I also take issue with the thread title. Cuba's healthcare system is not the model for the world. For that France has the system to emulate.
 
Gather round folks .
The Left are trotting out their 100% Fake News about the Cuban Health System . Again .
So let's look at what others find :-

Then there is the real Cuban system, the one that ordinary people must use — and it is wretched. Testimony and documentation on the subject are vast. Hospitals and clinics are crumbling. Conditions are so unsanitary, patients may be better off at home, whatever home is. If they do have to go to the hospital, they must bring their own bedsheets, soap, towels, food, light bulbs — even toilet paper. And basic medications are scarce. …The equipment that doctors have to work with is either antiquated or nonexistent. Doctors have been known to reuse latex gloves — there is no choice. …So deplorable is the state of health care in Cuba that old-fashioned diseases are back with a vengeance. These include tuberculosis, leprosy, and typhoid fever. And dengue, another fever, is a particular menace.


But this terrible picture masks the wonderful things done for tourists and visiting gullibles and for general bogus news releases .
And who cares about real people as long as the party looks good ?
 
Well I'm not a Communist and Capitalism is superior.
This is the problem of liberals: they no longer have full believe in the institutions of capitalism, having been convinced in practice of their depravity.
But they are blindly convinced of the rightness of "proper capitalism"
 
This is the problem of liberals: they no longer have full believe in the institutions of capitalism
What institutions would those be exactly?
 
Why don't you just tell me what they are.
Don't you know what liberals criticize capitalism for? Strange, for a man who calls himself a liberal...
 
Gather round folks .
The Left are trotting out their 100% Fake News about the Cuban Health System . Again .
So let's look at what others find :-




But this terrible picture masks the wonderful things done for tourists and visiting gullibles and for general bogus news releases .
And who cares about real people as long as the party looks good ?

I know nothing about the Cuban health system, so -- of course -- I am going to comment on it.

All the nice things said about the Cuban system cannot be true, for Cubans are human beings,

And human beings are the same all over the world: They are selfish.

For example, we used to hear nice things about the old USSR's health system -- until we learned that bribes were necessary to get decent treatment.

And, yes, the British health system after World War Two WAS great until it started to buckle under increased demand that it could not meet.

So there is no reason to believe the unbelievable stories about how wonderful the Cuban health system is.

People being people, the best health system is one based on doctors & nurses & all health workers being paid good salaries by their patients (usually via insurance).
 
until we learned that bribes were necessary to get decent treatment.
Never did it. In gratitude for the successful treatment, you could give a woman doctor perfume, candy, etc. For male doctors, a great gift is good alcohol
 
For example, we used to hear nice things about the old USSR's health system
No we didn't.

And, yes, the British health system after World War Two WAS great until it started to buckle under increased demand that it could not meet.
NHS is sixth best in the world.

So there is no reason to believe the unbelievable stories about how wonderful the Cuban health system is.
No one has said that have they.

People being people, the best health system is one based on doctors & nurses & all health workers being paid good salaries by their patients (usually via insurance).
The best healthcare systems in the world are universal coverage single-payer.
 
Cuba has the world’s first lung cancer vaccine & HIV prevention pill + no more mother-child HIV transmission. Groundbreaking technology created under crippling 60 year trade embargo.
P.S. For information: after Chernobyl, Cuba was the only country, that accepted tens of thousands of affected children for treatment for free and never reminded Russia about it.
Why does Cuba, which is under a severe blockade, have several of its own vaccines, while Israel, for eхample, with a similar population size, has none? Maybe it's all about different philosophies of existence?
P.P.S. "Lord Hendy and 17 other British parliamentarians have nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize Cuban doctors who help millions of people cope with the coronavirus in 39 countries around the world"

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/cubas-health-care-system-_b_5649968


By golly looks like Albert Einstein was right!

Socialism really *is* the way to go!
 
What are they again?
I don't mind doing people's education, but for capitalists, I do it for money. Should I tell you the number of my bank account where you can send money for your training?
 
I don't mind doing people's education, but for capitalists, I do it for money. Should I tell you the number of my bank account where you can send money for your training?
You made a ludicrous claim that not only can you not cite evidence for, you can't even define.
 
Can I just point out there is no such thing as a "cancer vaccine"? Cancer is not a disease that can be vaccinated against because it is caused by the mutation and growth of your own cells, not a pathogen. Anything done that reduces the risks of developing a cancer would not be considered a vaccine. So with that said, I also doubt any other "groundbreaking" medical claims made in the same statement.
 
Can I just point out there is no such thing as a "cancer vaccine"? Cancer is not a disease that can be vaccinated against because it is caused by the mutation and growth of your own cells, not a pathogen. Anything done that reduces the risks of developing a cancer would not be considered a vaccine. So with that said, I also doubt any other "groundbreaking" medical claims made in the same statement.
HPV vaccine.
 
HPV vaccine.
That's a vaccine against the human papillomavirus, not cancer. The human papillomavirus causes an infection that can cause cancer, but the HPV vaccine is not a cancer vaccine, it is a vaccine for a pathogen.
 
That's a vaccine against the human papillomavirus, not cancer. The human papillomavirus causes an infection that can cause cancer, but the HPV vaccine is not a cancer vaccine, it is a vaccine for a pathogen.
Agree with your comment but if it prevents cancer caused by HPV it serves the purpose and can be called a vaccine that prevents that specific cancer. In much the same way that HepB vaccine can prevent liver cancer caused by that pathogen.
 
Agree with your comment but if it prevents cancer caused by HPV it serves the purpose and can be called a vaccine that prevents that specific cancer. In much the same way that HepB vaccine can prevent liver cancer caused by that pathogen.
Lung cancer isn't caused by pathogens, so not sure what angle they're going for.

ETA: it's called the HPV vaccine, not the cervical cancer vaccine.
 
Lung cancer isn't caused by pathogens, so not sure what angle they're going for.

ETA: it's called the HPV vaccine, not the cervical cancer vaccine.
There is growing evidence that Chlamydophila Pneumonia can cause lung cancer.

That's an interesting article as some pathogens might prevent cancers.
 
There is growing evidence that Chlamydophila Pneumonia can cause lung cancer.

That's an interesting article as some pathogens might prevent cancers.
The point is, vaccines can only protect us from pathogens. The fact that some of those pathogens increase the risk for certain cancers doesn't make those vaccines cancer vaccines. I didn't see the press release saying they'd found a vaccine for Chlamydophila Pneumonia. In reading, I found it is also more strongly linked to asthma, endocarditis, atherosclerotic vascular disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, sarcoidosis, reactive arthritis and multiple sclerosis. Calling a Chlamydophila Pneumonia vaccine, when one is developed, a "lung cancer" vaccine would be as erroneous as calling it an asthma vaccine.
 
No we didn't.

The hospital system in the Russian Federation also has a brilliant side .

I know, having been in several as an invited guest/visitor by Russian acquaintances . Unlike you .
And it is broadly similar to the previously described Cuban system .
Astonishing at the cutting edge and as good as anywhere else on the planet ; very good and at international standards in the big City main hospitals etc , and not so good the lower you go down the money chain ( very basic ) .

Your home state California is in such a disgusting mess in some respects in big cities -- human excrement everywhere , syringes etc -- you should consider being less cutting in your criticisms and prejudices .
 
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