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Crisis of masculinity


Fair enough, I suppose. While I, admittedly, remain somewhat skeptical that the environment you're speaking of here really breaks established norms to the extent you claim, and I also think you're making some assertions here that would be rather hard to verify in any real sense, I will also freely admit that it's not something with which I have any great amount of personal experience.

In any eventuality, what, exactly, are you looking to discuss?
 
Not only porn and videogames make such effect, young men must also do exercises to look like men.
 

While I agree with this, I think there's another side to it, which is that it seems less and less like there's a place for young people in our society. Part of the crisis is that people don't interact as much in a face-to-face manner as before (this is, incidentally, also happening with young women. That just hasn't yet become part of the social narrative). When we can offer little of meaning to a person, why in the world would they join with us?

Part of the issue is what we've come to define as meaningful. Most people these days are materialists at heart--even those who claim to believe in God and a soul. Most artistic portrayals of death depict it as like entering a big void in which the dying person ceases to exist. The only thing that matters, because it's the only thing that can matter in such a situation, is the accumulation of material stuff. Both conservatives and liberals play into this narrative. Liberals do so with the complex of rhetoric surrounding the idea that religion is some mean artifact of long-past inaccurate concepts of the cosmos. Conservatives do so with the complex of rhetoric surrounding the idea that the rich are virtuous and to be admired rather than denigrated.

So with that goal in mind, and an honest appreciation of how difficult it is to accumulate anything more than what is usually considered a baseline of material possession, people have what should be a predictable reaction: they unplug.
 
Not only porn and videogames make such effect, young men must also do exercises to look like men.
Exercising is just an another word for narcissism. Men don't need to look like men, they need to be men. It requires real social interaction and hard work which means spending time outdoors.
 
Grow some hair
 
OP, I think it's just that the definition of masculinity is expanding, and there isn't a crisis.

People who think masculinity should be so narrow as it was 50 years ago are the ones perceiving a crisis.

There are so many different kinds of men out there and they all deserve to be treated with decency, instead of being expected to fit into a box.
 

Things you'll learn over the coming years:
1. Women are more than just sexual objects to be conquered.
2. There are things that are far more important than looks.
3. Sex isn't as big a deal as you thought it was.
4. Pretending to be something you aren't is a recipe for a failed relationship and/or unhappy marriage.
5. Women like real men, not stereotypes of masculinity.
 

This is the best response I've seen to the complaining about masculinity I've seen so far.

First of all there are attacks on masculity.

1. Pollution and toxins in Food, the atmosphere and plastics are actually harming testosterone Levels for babies and children, leading to problems such as more instances of testicle cancer and so on ... if the right wing cares so much about masculity, they would push for regulations and Public accountability for these Food Companies and pollutors ... nope, they don't want to do that because it's an offence to their own Triune God (Markets, Profit and Property).

2. Mass layoffs which leave many men unable to provide for their Family, layoffs in profitable Companies that are done simply to maximize short term profit ...

These are Things that ACTUALY hurt men, and they are caused by the sacred cow of the right wing that is capitalism.

But here's the problem, the right wing has adopted this twisted (completely unchristian) view of Masculinity which reduces masculinity to nothing more than, as Paschendale put it, punching People who are smaller than you, getting Rich and ****ting on People below you in the buisiness ladder, and having a lot of guns, because aparently having the ability to kill People without any physical ability is manly and tough.

The Perfect representative of this is Ted Nuget, a guy who goes around With Guns pretending to be all manly, but in reality, when he was gonna og to Vietnam, he literally **** himself to get out of it.

Talking about having guns and killing People With them isn't manly, being cruel to those With less advantage than you isn't manly, it's being a little bitch.

Eugene Debs opposed the first world war, openly, and he went to prison for it, that's a manly response to violence, not celebrating it.

Jesus Christ refused to retaliate to those who abused him, he Allied himself With the weakest of society and showed them respect and reverence.
 

I agree, yet, yet you support total Capitalism .... Strange.
 
Feminists shouldn't be permitted to have children. Hand that rocks the cradle... you seem to have things backwards. Feminists CAUSED the problem and porn is the treatment. Not the other way round
It won't be effeminate, it's getting more emasculate.
 
I agree, yet, yet you support total Capitalism .... Strange.

Your conclusion is erroneous and baseless. Please cite your evidence for my support of total capitalism.
 
Your conclusion is erroneous and baseless. Please cite your evidence for my support of total capitalism.

Libertarian Lean .... Libertarian, at least in the United States generally means a support for total Capitalism.
 
Libertarian Lean .... Libertarian, at least in the United States generally means a support for total Capitalism.

First lean means lean, not follows absolutely.
Second, you noted generally, which means that there are those who do not.
Third, most libertarians do not support "total capitalism". While we prefer smaller, and more importantly, more local government, we also recognize the need for some regulation within the market.

Simply because a certain label of the the available choices is used as the best fit does not mean that it is a perfect fit or that the individual follow all of the stereotypical aspects of that label.
 
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