Social Security and Medicare are paid for by the people, through taxes withheld, so they are not entitlements and helped create the middle class.
If you are opposed to welfare, than pay everyone that works full time a living wage.
Improving the lot of Americans is an admirable accomplishment, and the people rewarded FDR for it by electing him 3 times.
Even today, as I have referenced above, he is still considered one of the top 3 presidents, ahead of Thomas Jefferson.
I don't need the nanny state extracting money from my checks...
well, no one recently has accused the American people of being too up on their history...
Once you get a majority that feel Social Security and Medicaid are no longer needed, please be sure to let me know.
to be completely honest, i can understand an older crowd feeling this way. They had so many people per retiree paying them SS up until retirement, and they are all taken care of... i suppose they would want the "nanny state" and that ever so elusive "big government" to leave them alone now. :doh
Its not just historians that consider FDR one of the 3 best presidents, the majority of Americans that lived through that time also thought he was the best because they reelected him 3 times.
Once you get a majority that feel Social Security and Medicaid are no longer needed, please be sure to let me know.
the facts don't back that narrative up.
Social Security started running a deficit last fall;
Medicare's unfunded liabilities for the next few years are beyond budget-busting.
we are going to find out what it is like to not have them in their current form whether we want to or not, and we are going to have to find out soon.
Not a fault of the SS design.
It is the fault of the government from stealing from the funds to pay for other things. Reagan began this practice.
Mostly due to waste and fraud, both of which the health care reform addresses.
Yeah, right after we run out of money to wage optional wars.
Revisionists can try to spin it any way they want but the "facts" were judged by the majority of Americans who lived through that period and they reelected him 3 times.
Beginning in fiscal year 1969, Social Security and other Federal programs that operate through trust funds were counted officially in the budget. This was done administratively by President Johnson.
We pull back the US military and the linchpin of global security is gone. say goodbye to international trade and watch the world economy head into chaos as the globe devolves into regionalism.
whatever. as i told you, the New Deal was brilliant political ploy, it was just a horrible economic program. you're response to a political metric is rather telling.
American Revolution Center
average score, as i understand it, is a 44. interestingly, republicans and moderates score higher than democrats. Americans, frankly, are rather abysmal when it comes to history.
The recent terrorist attempt in the US and other attacks around the world should surprise no one.
Sen. Fritz Hollings
Former South Carolina Senator ~
Creating Terrorists
"On 9/11, Afghanistan and the Swat Valley in Pakistan were peaceful. We ran Osama bin Laden into the Swat Valley and now have ended up shooting lethal missiles from drones into villages, killing civilians, turning a peaceful valley into chaos, and causing two million refugees to flee. Refugee camps are hotbeds for energizing militancy, insurgency, and Al Qaeda. How do the Secretary and generals think one creates a terrorist?
Exactly the way my friend, Vice President Biden, suggests. Stay off-shore and lob artillery into the Valley, or with drones lob missiles into supposed militants' homes. You hit a home in my neighborhood and you've got a militant. I've become a believer in Osama -- a terrorist. Osama said the U. S. was engaged in a Crusade against Islam. Now, the U. S. deployed in Kuwait, having invaded Iraq, invading Afghanistan, and invading Pakistan, I'm a believer. Here I am peacefully reading my Koran and missiles from the United States hit my neighbor. You've got a militant. Come hell or high water I'm going to get you one way or the other. Yes, even learn to fly -- and kill myself to destroy your World Trade Towers."
Sen. Fritz Hollings: Creating Terrorism
July 31, 2008 - "The Rand Corporation, a conservative think-tank originally started by the U.S. Air Force, has produced a new report entitled, "How Terrorist Groups End - Lessons for Countering al Qaida."
"the study concludes that the "war on terrorism" has been a failure...."
"And, why is this so? Because, Rand concludes, after studying 648 terrorist groups between 1968 and 2006, that military operations against such groups are among the least effective means of success, achieving the desired effect in only 7% of the cases. As Rand explains, "[a]gainst most terrorist groups . . . military force is usually too blunt an instrument." Moreover, "[t]he use of substantial U.S. military power against terror groups also runs a significant risk of turning the local population against the government by killing civilians."
"As the Rand Corporation predicts in such circumstances, this has only led to an increase in popular support for those resisting the U.S. military onslaught. In short, the war is counterproductive."
"In the end, Rand concludes that the U.S. should rely much more on local military forces to police their own countries, and that this "means a light U.S. military footprint or none at all."
Dan Kovalik: Rand Corp -- War On Terrorism Is A Failure
Corroboration from across the pond ~
Author: Azeem Ibrahim, Research Fellow, International Security Program
This policy memo is based on Mr. Azeem Ibrahim's keynote speech to the Leaders' Summit on Security and Cohesion at Portcullis House, Westminster, London, on October 7, 2008.
The only way to beat terror long-term is to reduce the motivation to radicalize, and international and British trends will make it more urgent to do so
Summary
* Current counterterrorism policy has emphasized military action, imprisonment, cutting off terrorists' sources of finance, and denying them safe territory. These have had limited effectiveness, and recent trends indicate that they are only short-term solutions.
* The only long-term solution is to reduce Muslims' motivation to radicalize.
* Various trends over the next decades will make this more urgent. This policy memo identifies trends in four areas: the changing nature of terrorism itself, demographics, geostrategy, and the British domestic situation.
* Western governments have so far failed to reduce Muslims' motivation to radicalize in part because they lack credibility on the Muslim street, sometimes being regarded as a "contaminated brand."
* Governments can learn from a growing body of evidence how to effectively reduce Muslims' motivation to radicalize."
Reducing Terrorism over the Long Term - Harvard - Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs
Thanks for your opinion. You will forgive me if I do not find it as credible as the sources I referenced above.
The report I referenced is the most extensive research on terrorist groups to date, and today's Pentagon would have not commissioned their report if they were not credible. Additionally, their report findings are backed up by British Inquiries.
Where is your proof of apdst's credibility in discerning terrorists motives?
Does he get lovely parting gifts? ..LOL :mrgreen:
You know Cat, you'll never get a right-winger to acknowledge the existence of blowback. These guys live, eat and breath interventionism. The fact that our actions have consequences is a foreign concept to them.
We killed 100,000 Iraqi civilians in the first Gulf war before the terrorists killed 3,000 of our civilians. What goes around comes around.
lol their motivation to radicalize is that they are born into a ****ing death cult and brainwashed in their mosques and madrassas since the cradle.
A) Saddam is responsible for those casualties he engaged in an imperialist campaign to conquer a peaceful country.
B) Which of the 19 hijackers was Iraqi again?
Refresh my memory: Which nation gave arms to Iraq to fight against Iran in the 80's?
Their motivation to radicalize is neo-liberalism creating a host of failed states
in muslim majority countries where natural resources are being abused by TNCs and predator multinationals to extract wealth and nation build at the behest of corporate oil.
I never understood the "indoctrination" argument. In theory being exposed to anything is indoctrination,
and its more or less become a pejorative in the last 40 years....meaning whatever the person using ad hom attacks wants his opponents ideology to be viewed as.
Western culture and institution, as well as "nationalism" or "patriotism" could very well be the on the same tune as indoctrinary "radical islam" but people are so caught up in ethnocentrism they don't notice.
Shhh. That doesn't fit in with is left-wing Hate America first approach spoon fed to him by his "professors." In fact, he would never know that precisely because it doesn't fit in with his "professor's" left-wing Hate America first viewpoint and so was intentionally never noted. :lamoRussia and France the U.S. provided less than .5% of total weapons sales to Iraq and in fact they mainly consisted of dual use items weaponized after the fact; such as, ambulances and helicopters.
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