COVID-19 Disinformation in one graph (1 Viewer)

[jmotivator]

One has to wonder who misinformed the populace so badly...

 

[CaughtInThe]

Interesting

 

[Slartibartfast]

Occam's razor suggests that what can be chalked up to ignorance is likely to simply be ignorance and not some weird conspiracy.

 

[noonereal]

One has to wonder who misinformed the populace so badly...

Maybe nobody?

Maybe the public is and has always been a den of dolts? Yes it has.

This is why they need government to lead them. They are too ****in stupid to take care of themselves.

I love the really stupid ones who claim they are so smart that they don't need government to decide for them./

They are the dumbest of the dumb.

 

[Greenbeard]

I saw a poll the other day that said a bare majority of Americans think the U.S.--which last year experienced 6.9% GDP growth, 6.4 million job growth, and is essentially at full employment--is in a recession.

Perception and reality have never been further apart in this country.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

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One has to wonder who misinformed the populace so badly...

A conservative who lies about everything projecting lying on to others LOL We know who misinformed, moronic right wing media

 

[bluesmoke]

Maybe nobody?

Maybe the public is and has always been a den of dolts? Yes it has.

This is why they need government to lead them. They are too ****in stupid to take care of themselves.

I love the really stupid ones who claim they are so smart that they don't need government to decide for them./

They are the dumbest of the dumb.

I think the dumbest are the ones that think they're smarter than the scientists and need to review all the facts on COVID and the vaccine for themselves, and then decide.

 

[jmotivator]

Maybe nobody?

Maybe the public is and has always been a den of dolts? Yes it has.

This is why they need government to lead them. They are too ****in stupid to take care of themselves.

I love the really stupid ones who claim they are so smart that they don't need government to decide for them./

They are the dumbest of the dumb.

A "den of dolts" would generally believe what they are told.

I would argue that the media's insistence on making the exception the rule in COVID-19 deaths left a lot of people with the impression that the death of anyone under 25 years old is common for political purposes, rather than extremely rare.

The response to COVID should have ALWAYS targeted those 65 and older while leaving the rest to live their lives. The group overwhelmingly impacted have the least connection to the workforce... and yet we rolled out a one size fits all approach (well, except for elites who never followed the rules) that needlessly tanked the American economy.

 

[Noodlegawd]

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One has to wonder who misinformed the populace so badly...

And here's another way to look at misconceptions about Covid, particularly during the last surge:

	Cases/100k 12/15	Cases/100k 2/28	Cases/100k Omicron Surge
PA	14512	21536	7024
TX	15126	22587	7461
IN	17393	24980	7587
WA	10457	18700	8243
NY (excl NYC)	15178	23796	8618
US	15362	24058	8696
IL	15163	23921	8758
FL	17508	27054	9546
NJ	14817	24403	9586
CA	13064	22697	9633
HI	6135	16277	10142
NYC	14437	27130	12693

(raw data from select states from https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases)

 

[bluesmoke]

Interesting

But shtupid!

 

[jmotivator]

I think the dumbest are the ones that think they're smarter than the scientists and need to review all the facts on COVID and the vaccine for themselves, and then decide.

Tell me, what "science" changed from January to today that has lead to waves of ending mask mandates at the state and federal level? Why is the SOTU maskless, and DC schools still masked? Again, look at the facts vs perception in the OP.

 

[jmotivator]

And here's another way to look at misconceptions about Covid, particularly during the last surge:

	Cases/100k 12/15	Cases/100k 2/28	Cases/100k Omicron Surge
PA	14512	21536	7024
TX	15126	22587	7461
IN	17393	24980	7587
WA	10457	18700	8243
NY (excl NYC)	15178	23796	8618
US	15362	24058	8696
IL	15163	23921	8758
FL	17508	27054	9546
NJ	14817	24403	9586
CA	13064	22697	9633
HI	6135	16277	10142
NYC	14437	27130	12693

(raw data from select states from https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailycases)

What is it you are trying to show here?

 

[snakestretcher]

But shtupid!

Sgt. Schultz? You're showing your age lol

 

[noonereal]

I think the dumbest are the ones that think they're smarter than the scientists and need to review all the facts on COVID and the vaccine for themselves, and then decide.

These are among the ones I spoke to. The dumbest of the dumb.

 

[j brown's body]

Its not all about dying.

The coronavirus invades cells in the penis and testicles of monkeys, researchers discover. (Published 2022)

The study suggests that symptoms such as erectile dysfunction reported by some Covid patients may be caused directly by the virus.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Noodlegawd]

What is it you are trying to show here?

I'm not "trying" to show anything. I'm actually showing the number of new confirmed cases that happened between December 1, 2021 and February 28, 2022 (i.e., during the Omicron surge) in a variety of states with a various conditions and approaches to dealing with the pandemic. Take from it what you will.

 

[americanwoman]

Tell me, what "science" changed from January to today that has lead to waves of ending mask mandates at the state and federal level? Why is the SOTU maskless, and DC schools still masked? Again, look at the facts vs perception in the OP.

I would imagine that might have something to do with vaccines. The youngest schoolchildren still cannot get vaccinated, I didn't see any 5 and under at the SOTU and if there was they should have been wearing masks. Sounds like the parents in that district favor masking at this time.

 

[eohrnberger]

Occam's razor suggests that what can be chalked up to ignorance is likely to simply be ignorance and not some weird conspiracy.

Would have to add to that Occam's razor list the obvious and consistent incompetence of government agencies.

 

[eohrnberger]

I would imagine that might have something to do with vaccines. The youngest schoolchildren still cannot get vaccinated, I didn't see any 5 and under at the SOTU and if there was they should have been wearing masks. Sounds like the parents in that district favor masking at this time.

Given the rate of infection, survival rate, etc. how does one justify, using data, vaccine mandates for those younger than 18? Younger than 30?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Would have to add to that Occam's razor list the obvious and consistent incompetence of government agencies.

Occam’s razor suggest there that COVID was a complicated topic and it’s a large country, with a federalized government, constantly evolving science, and with many different data points, making “getting it just right” a thing that nobody probably could have accomplished.m perfectly.

 

[eohrnberger]

Occam’s razor suggest there that COVID was a complicated topic and it’s a large country, with a federalized government, constantly evolving science, and with many different data points, making “getting it just right” a thing that nobody probably could have accomplished.m perfectly.

That's a lot more complicated an explanation than the already established track record of incompetent government agencies.
The CDC’s incompetence is not being able to quickly and accurately summarize and provide the data they are collecting.

• The pediatrics academy has repeatedly asked the C.D.C. for an estimate on the contagiousness of a person infected with the coronavirus five days after symptoms begin — but Dr. Maldonado finally got the answer from an article in The New York Times in December.
• “They’ve known this for over a year and a half, right, and they haven’t told us,” she said. “I mean, you can’t find out anything from them.”

The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects​

The agency has withheld critical data on boosters, hospitalizations and, until recently, wastewater analyses.​

By Apoorva Mandavilli, Feb. 20, 2022​

The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects (Published 2022)

The agency has withheld critical data on boosters, hospitalizations and, until recently, wastewater analyses.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Slartibartfast]

That's a lot more complicated an explanation than the already established track record of incompetent government agencies.
The CDC’s incompetence is not being able to quickly and accurately summarize and provide the data they are collecting.

• The pediatrics academy has repeatedly asked the C.D.C. for an estimate on the contagiousness of a person infected with the coronavirus five days after symptoms begin — but Dr. Maldonado finally got the answer from an article in The New York Times in December.
• “They’ve known this for over a year and a half, right, and they haven’t told us,” she said. “I mean, you can’t find out anything from them.”

The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects​

The agency has withheld critical data on boosters, hospitalizations and, until recently, wastewater analyses.​

By Apoorva Mandavilli, Feb. 20, 2022​

The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects (Published 2022)

The agency has withheld critical data on boosters, hospitalizations and, until recently, wastewater analyses.

www.nytimes.com

Yup and I assume you think there must be malfeasance in data that you dislike

 

[eohrnberger]

Yup and I assume you think there must be malfeasance in data that you dislike

I have no like or dislike of data. I may raise questions as to how it was collected and it's accuracy, but those far fair questions to raise.

I have dislike of incompetence in excessively expensive government. The US electorate should get what they pay for, and the government historically and typically, falls far short of those expectations.

Why are you diverting away from the OP? Data you dislike?

 

[americanwoman]

Given the rate of infection, survival rate, etc. how does one justify, using data, vaccine mandates for those younger than 18? Younger than 30?

We still require vaccines for children for many different reasons. I'm no doctor and can only rely on the actual experts to try and explain why that's needed. If you don't care about the elderly, the sick, or the immunocompromised then I can see why you wouldn't want to do simple measures to keep them alive.

Opinion | Polio, Chickenpox, Measles … Covid-19? The Case for Vaccine Mandates in Schools. (Published 2022)

Requiring children to get vaccinated for Covid is controversial. We should consider it anyway.

www.nytimes.com

Even after vaccines were invented and diseases like measles and chickenpox were no longer common (and not medically dangerous for the average child), the United States continued to mandate school vaccination for different but important reasons.

We vaccinate against chickenpox and measles in part because they can be more deadly for adults, for the immunocompromised and for babies, whose immune systems are still developing. Like Covid.

We vaccinate against mumps, in itself usually a mild disease, because some who get it will suffer serious lasting effects, such as infertility in males who’ve passed puberty and hearing loss. You can draw parallels here with “long Covid,” and we still don’t know about the long-term effects of the coronavirus, which can inflame organs.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I have no like or dislike of data. I may raise questions as to how it was collected and it's accuracy, but those far fair questions to raise.

I have dislike of incompetence in excessively expensive government. The US electorate should get what they pay for, and the government historically and typically, falls far short of those expectations.

Why are you diverting away from the OP? Data you dislike?

Conspiracists always find more questions to ask. Leading questions are the best ones!