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I've long felt that it is very odd in our culture how people are scrutinized, even demonized, for the things that they say in response, much more than the things that were done in the first place.
why are words more important than actions?
The marines were innocent, some declared so by a court of law. Not just "not guilty" but "innocent".
Murtha is a dirtbag and he besmirched the Marines. He should be removed from office for his lies.
what is a lie?
Murtha's calling the marines murderers, But you knew that.
Murtha's calling the marines murderers, But you knew that.
define "lie."
Please, you being obtuse is not something I am interested in.
You want to defend the shameful things Murtha said about the Marines, be my guest. I won't sit here and play your games because you want to obfuscate your way out of reality.
LOL. so you don't know what a lie is. you use words that you don't know the meanings of. you neglect the topic. you dodge my direct questions pertaining to the topic. and you accuse me of being "obtuse." amazing.
Murtha didn't lie. a lie is when you knowingly deceive. Murtha didn't knowingly deceive. Murtha was being a douche when he jumped to conclusions about the incident and clearly said more than he should have.
but making a mistake where you say things about something that happened is much less worse than a mistake made where civilians died. I didn't follow the case closely, but did it end that there wasn't enough evidence to convict the marines? and meanwhile Murtha can't be sued. so douchieness gets off the hook in our country.
no matter how it happened, I'm saddened that an infant, young girls, women, etc, were killed. it has nothing to do with what Murtha said, or whether or not the Marines even did it. and regardless of guilt or innocence, Murtha was right when he said, "This is the kind of war you have to win the hearts and minds of the people. And we're set back every time something like this happens."
of course, reactionary hawks will disagree. but there you go.
LOL. so you don't know what a lie is. you use words that you don't know the meanings of. you neglect the topic. you dodge my direct questions pertaining to the topic. and you accuse me of being "obtuse." amazing.
Murtha didn't lie. a lie is when you knowingly deceive. Murtha didn't knowingly deceive. Murtha was being a douche when he jumped to conclusions about the incident and clearly said more than he should have.
but making a mistake where you say things about something that happened (before learning all the facts) is much less worse than a mistake made where civilians died. I didn't follow the case closely, but did it end that there wasn't enough evidence to convict the marines? and meanwhile Murtha can't be sued. so douchieness gets off the hook in our country.
no matter how it happened, I'm saddened that an infant, young girls, women, etc, were killed. the bodies were there. it has nothing to do with what Murtha said, or whether or not the Marines even did it. and regardless of guilt or innocence, Murtha was right when he said, "This is the kind of war you have to win the hearts and minds of the people. And we're set back every time something like this happens."
of course, reactionary hawks will disagree. but there you go.
Murtha was right when he said, "This is the kind of war you have to win the hearts and minds of the people. And we're set back every time something like this happens."
Murtha didn't lie. a lie is when you knowingly deceive. Murtha didn't knowingly deceive. Murtha was being a douche when he jumped to conclusions about the incident and clearly said more than he should have.
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