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Court denies request for expedited hearing on Arizona immigration law

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Right. Because this isn't a big deal or anything.
 

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what does it matter, the law will be declared unconstitutional.
 

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The AZ law can't be enforced unless the Fed rules in its favor in November, which it won't.

It makes sense that they suspended it and it makes sense that they are being made to wait.
 

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Right. Because this isn't a big deal or anything.
Everybody else with a case chugging through the Federal court system has to wait, why the hell should the government of the state of Arizona be any different?

It's a big deal, but you can't call it an emergency. If it were an emergency, they would've done this years ago.
 

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Good. Always nice to see bigots take a setback.
If I am a bigot because I want to enforce the laws of the United States of America, then I gladly claim the title. This law has nothing to do with bigotry and everything to do with law enforcement.
 

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What a crock. Uncola. you don't know me, I support the Az bill, live in AZ, and am not a bigot. So for all you thinking AZ is wrong, what is your response to the Feds not doing thier job regarding illegals? Do you support the status quo to continue? It is interesting that many who oppose the law play the race issue. If anyone is a bigot, look in the mirror.
 

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What a crock. Uncola. you don't know me, I support the Az bill, live in AZ, and am not a bigot. So for all you thinking AZ is wrong, what is your response to the Feds not doing thier job regarding illegals? Do you support the status quo to continue? It is interesting that many who oppose the law play the race issue. If anyone is a bigot, look in the mirror.
Blah blah blah. Save it for the dogwhistle crowd. I see it for what it is, just another reason to hassle brown people. Being white, I hear the underlying message, just like the bigots. I simply reject it because it's morally bankrupt. I couldn't care less who does or doesn't agree with me.
 

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What a crock. Uncola. you don't know me, I support the Az bill, live in AZ, and am not a bigot. So for all you thinking AZ is wrong, what is your response to the Feds not doing thier job regarding illegals? Do you support the status quo to continue? It is interesting that many who oppose the law play the race issue. If anyone is a bigot, look in the mirror.
Pro-illegals regularly deliberately spew lies about opposition by calling them racists or xenophobic or anti-immigrant. Pro-illegals dishonestly lumps illegals in with legal immigrants by calling illegals just "immigrants" or "undocumented immigrants" and refers to anti-illegal immigration laws as "anti-immigration" laws. Pro-illegals use terms such as "undocumented immigrations", "migrants", "migrants", "laborers", or "Undocumented Americans" to hide the illegality of illegal immigration. Do you think these pro-illegals believe what they say when they accuse the opposition of bigotry,racism or xenophobia? I do not believe for a second they honestly believe the lies they spew, its nothing more than a tactic to accuse to the opposition of illegal immigration as bigots, racists or xenophobes since that is all they have to resort to. They know they can't win a debate on illegal immigration using the truth.
 
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Hm.... What is their reason for denying them speedy legal proceedings? And why November? Clearly the courts are trying to legislate and preserve the Democrat's party image. The law is no longer the law, but merely a political ploy :(
 

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Hm.... What is their reason for denying them speedy legal proceedings? And why November? Clearly the courts are trying to legislate and preserve the Democrat's party image. The law is no longer the law, but merely a political ploy :(
I fail to see how the state of Arizona is facing any longer of a delay than any other decision being made in Federal court.
 

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I fail to see how the state of Arizona is facing any longer of a delay than any other decision being made in Federal court.
And I fail to see a reason to delay a high profile and politically entwined case until November.
 

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Pro-illegals regularly deliberately spew lies about opposition by calling them racists or xenophobic or anti-immigrant. Pro-illegals dishonestly lumps illegals in with illegal immigrations by calling illegals just "immigrants" or refers to anti-illegal immigration laws as "anti-immigration" laws. Pro-illegals use terms such as "undocumented immigrations", "migrants", "migrants", "laborers", or "Undocumented Americans" to hide the illegality of illegal immigration. Do you think these pro-illegals believe what they say when they accuse the opposition of bigotry,racism or xenophobia? I do not believe for a second they honestly believe the lies they spew, its nothing more than a tactic to accuse to the opposition of illegal immigration as bigots, racists or xenophobes since that is all they have to resort to. They know they can't win a debate on illegal immigration using the truth.
And bigots regularly try to use stealth-speak to hide their bigotry. It seems to really rag them off when "one of their own race" cuts thru it and calls it what it is. Bigotry, couched in less obvious terms, but bigotry just the same.
 

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It was denied a speedy hearing for political reason, and we all know the 9th will just rubberstamp the Obama Admin's position. They don't want this going to the SCOTUS because there they cannot garuntee the outcome.
 

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And bigots regularly try to use stealth-speak to hide their bigotry. It seems to really rag them off when "one of their own race" cuts thru it and calls it what it is. Bigotry, couched in less obvious terms, but bigotry just the same.
I see you are spewing more lies. You don't have a leg to stand on in the illegal immigration debate so you have to scream bigot while throwing a tantrum like a 2 year old in order to get heard.
 

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I see you are spewing more lies. You don't have a leg to stand on in the illegal immigration debate so you have to scream bigot while throwing a tantrum like a 2 year old in order to get heard.
Your opinion of me, is irrelevant.
 

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It gets delayed for the same reason any case at that level gets delayed -- scheduling, case load, and priority.
Right. To see this as politics is silly. Oklahoma has had a similar law on the books for several years, since 2007. (Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizens Protection Act) Its enforcement was suspended immediately and still waiting for adjudication. This was all very predictable. Wrong to be challenged, IMO, but predictable.
 

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Hm.... What is their reason for denying them speedy legal proceedings? And why November? Clearly the courts are trying to legislate and preserve the Democrat's party image. The law is no longer the law, but merely a political ploy :(
Not granting a request to expedite is not the same thing as delaying.

And bigots regularly try to use stealth-speak to hide their bigotry. It seems to really rag them off when "one of their own race" cuts thru it and calls it what it is. Bigotry, couched in less obvious terms, but bigotry just the same.
It is entirely possible, even likely to support the Arizona law and not be bigoted. The law itself is not bigoted. We need to stop throwing around the term "bigot", and accusations of racism at every turn.
 

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Right. To see this as politics is silly. Oklahoma has had a similar law on the books for several years, since 2007. (Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizens Protection Act) Its enforcement was suspended immediately and still waiting for adjudication. This was all very predictable. Wrong to be challenged, IMO, but predictable.
Actually only 2 of the 3 employment provisions were blocked, not the whole bill.These provisions were-

# Prohibit firing of workers legally in the country while retaining workers illegally in the country.


# Require businesses that contract with individual private contractors to obtain documentation that the individuals are authorized to work or, without documentation, withhold taxes at the top rate.



These provisions are still being enforced
HB 1804 Summary


Section 3 replicates the federal provision that makes it a felony punishable by imprisonment for not less than 1 year or a fine of $1000.00, for any person to transport, harbor, or shelter an alien in reckless disregard for their illegal immigration status. State and local prosecutors now have the tools to stop illegal aliens from "residing" in Oklahoma, or traveling instate in search of unlawful employment.

Section 4 restricts issuance of most official identification documents to U.S. citizens, legal permanent resident aliens or holders of valid unexpired visas. Illegal aliens cannot operate in-state if they lack official documentation. Use of foreign consular cards issued to illegal aliens has been prohibited.

Section 5 requires police to verify the immigration status of persons who have been arrested and detained at a local jail for felony crimes, and report all illegal aliens to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

Section 7 requires all public employers to use the Basic Pilot electronic work authorization verification program. State and local public contractors are prohibited from commencing work on a taxpayer-funded contract before they register with the Basic Pilot Program.

Section 8 requires every public agency to verify the lawful presence of aliens aged 14 years or older who applies for state or local public benefits, using the online SAVE system, as authorized by the 1996 Welfare Reform Act. Standard federal exceptions for emergency health care treatment or other public health services apply. This measure builds on similar provisions developed by IRLI that have been successfully adopted by Virginia, Colorado, and Georgia.

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Section 10 directs the Oklahoma Attorney General to negotiate a "287(g)" cooperative agreement between the State of Oklahoma and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to increase state and local police joint enforcement of federal immigration law with DHS. 287(g) agreements help insure that illegal aliens discovered by Oklahoma police officers are quickly and safely transferred into federal custody. Helps fight "catch and release" abuses that allow criminal aliens back into the neighborhoods where they were arrested.
 

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Everybody else with a case chugging through the Federal court system has to wait, why the hell should the government of the state of Arizona be any different?

It's a big deal, but you can't call it an emergency. If it were an emergency, they would've done this years ago.
If you lived on the border, you would consider it an emergency.
 
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