Coulter's comments vs. Maher's comments

[Adrian]

I'm not saying you're making them up no, seriously, I've never heard even half of these. Mick? seriously I'd no idea.

The Godfather? Dirty Harry? All the epithets I listed and many, many more were used in those movies.

 

[Inuyasha]

Here this site will keep you busy for a year.

Racial Slurs Database

 

[tryreading]

"I'm just saying if the pro-choice Democrats did die, more unborn babies would live. That's a fact."

You should encourage the demographic that is likely to birth pro-choice Democrats to have more abortions.

 

[Just Me 2]

I've never even heard half of those.

Wow I am shocked. Are you from the US? Al of those are pretty common and some very old.

 

[Southern Belle]

That's what PC does to you. Makes a 6-letter-word worse then stating a "fact" on what good might come of someone dying.

How utterly nasty. >_<

Noo, wait, it's beyond nasty, it's nothing less than retarded.

Now Coulter's a crazy witch but if people honestly think that the former is worse than the latter their priorities are a little wacked.

 

[jfuh]

The Godfather? Dirty Harry? All the epithets I listed and many, many more were used in those movies.

honestly I'd no idea those were derogatory terms in the god father. As for Dirty harry, never saw it.

 

[Thelost1]

@ Southern Belle

It's not the word hat she used. It's that she was just insultin him with no basis.

 

[jfuh]

Wow I am shocked. Are you from the US? Al of those are pretty common and some very old.

Just never used those terms in my life, nor even heard more than half of them. I guess you can say, some things are better left unknown.

 

[Southern Belle]

@ Southern Belle

It's not the word hat she used. It's that she was just insultin him with no basis.

And there's a huge poll trying to decide if the word was offensive in the polls forum. She didn't even directly call him a fag, she made a joke about maybe going to therapy IF she said it about him.

No matter what insult she used, if the two comments are to be compared, and one is in fact worse than the other, Mahr's was clearly worse.

 

[jfuh]

And there's a huge poll trying to decide if the word was offensive in the polls forum. She didn't even directly call him a fag, she made a joke about maybe going to therapy IF she said it about him.

No matter what insult she used, if the two comments are to be compared, and one is in fact worse than the other, Mahr's was clearly worse.

Maher never wished him dead.

 

[Southern Belle]

Maher never wished him dead.

I never said he did wish him dead. I don't even care about the comments, they were both jokes to me but you guys are comparing them, so I said, IF one is worse than the other, saying the good that would come of someone's dying is worse then calling-or almost calling-someone a fag.

 

[Thelost1]

And there's a huge poll trying to decide if the word was offensive in the polls forum. She didn't even directly call him a fag, she made a joke about maybe going to therapy IF she said it about him.

No matter what insult she used, if the two comments are to be compared, and one is in fact worse than the other, Maher's was clearly worse.

But that's not the point. if what is said in teh original post is correct, she was just blindly insulting him. She could have called him, stupid, ugly, whatever.

Maher's comment can be validated, it may be a horrible thing to say, but if we accept that Dick Cheney has caused death, his own death (1 death) would be preferable to the deaths of others (>1 deaths).

 

[Southern Belle]

But that's not the point. if what is said in teh original post is correct, she was just blindly insulting him. She could have called him, stupid, ugly, whatever.

Maher's comment can be validated, it may be a horrible thing to say, but if we accept that Dick Cheney has caused death, his own death (1 death) would be preferable to the deaths of others (>1 deaths).

She didn't even call him anything, if anything it looks like she was jokingly considering it. But I digress, I for one wouldn't say either one.

 

[Thelost1]

She didn't even call him anything, if anything it looks like she was jokingly considering it. But I digress, I for one wouldn't say either one.

Sure. Jokingly considering it. Right. Gotcha.

My, but are we naive today? She may not have said it outright, but she implied it.

 

[Thelost1]

She didn't even call him anything, if anything it looks like she was jokingly considering it. But I digress, I for one wouldn't say either one.

Sure. Jokingly considering it. Right. Gotcha.

My, but are we naive today? She may not have said it outright, but she implied it. Which is pretty much the same thing, just one sounds better.

 

[Inuyasha]

She didn't even call him anything, if anything it looks like she was jokingly considering it. But I digress, I for one wouldn't say either one.

The above statement reminds me of FOX news headlines last week when they mixed and convoluted headlines in an attempt to hide and avoid saying that Lewis Libby had been convicted by a jury.

AnnCoulter couldn't have been more clear in her meaning an sh is now paying for what she said. I don't know about Mahr. I didn't see that program. in any event we are all aware that Ann Coulter is prone to uncouth speech and as mentioned she is paying for it now. If, later on it works in her favor so be it. The statement was tactless and swarmy at best. Now we can go on to other things because Ann Coulter has no official standing in the Republican Party. We all know that. Searching for something to counter this obscene statement is simply folly. SB is splitting hairs and spinning like a Japanese top on new year's day.

 

[jfuh]

I never said he did wish him dead. I don't even care about the comments, they were both jokes to me but you guys are comparing them, so I said, IF one is worse than the other, saying the good that would come of someone's dying is worse then calling-or almost calling-someone a fag.

Yes, Maher stated if he were dead and raised very valid argument - did you read the transcript? It's a very arguable point.
Coulter I also read the transcript, no she did not "almost call" Edwards a fag, he flat out called him a fag and it was very very clear that the intent was an insult with absolutely no validity whatsoever.
Unless I'm missing something in the transcripts please show me where my analysis of the transcripts are wrong.

 

[Southern Belle]

I read the quotes in the OP. I said:

!: Anne is a crazy witch
2: I don't care about either comment really
3: It LOOKED TO ME (from the OP) that she was jokingly thinking about calling him a fag.

It seemed like she was jabbing more at the fact that another celebrity had to go to rehab for saying a bad word. If she really did directly call him that, please, show me the quote.

They were both bad to say but stating something is a fact that would happen and be good if someone died sounds meaner to me than just calling someone a name. Sticks and Stones.

 

[EAGLE1]

Southern Belle. Surely maher's comments refer to Dick Cheney's politics. What do Ann Coulter's comment on John Edwards refer to? Are her words a reference to his politics or to something else?

 

[Southern Belle]

Southern Belle. Surely maher's comments refer to Dick Cheney's politics. What do Ann Coulter's comment on John Edwards refer to? Are her words a reference to his politics or to something else?

Sounds like Maher was commenting on Cheney's life to me...

Anne's reffered to the goofy rehab the guy went to for saying a bad word. Why, is Edwards gay? I haven't heard how Edwards feels about being called a fag, if he even cares or not, only how other democrats feel and it's not really anybody else's business is it? Not even ours.

 

[LeftyHenry]

dude are you joking? How can you even compare those comments. Both are complete idiots, but c'mon, Coulter insulted an entire population of people. Maher just said the truth about a man who supports a war that has brought 655,000 casualties.

 

[dottedmint]

Yes, Maher stated if he were dead and raised very valid argument - did you read the transcript? It's a very arguable point.
Coulter I also read the transcript, no she did not "almost call" Edwards a fag, he flat out called him a fag and it was very very clear that the intent was an insult with absolutely no validity whatsoever.
Unless I'm missing something in the transcripts please show me where my analysis of the transcripts are wrong.

No. She did not "flat out call him a fag".

She said.

"I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘f@gg*t,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards."

IF you want to argue that she was suggesting/implied that the word applied to him I guess that would be honest.

What is not honest is to say that she "flat out called him a fag".

Also what Maher said does not have any valid argument to it. It is not based on anything other than his opinion.

"But I have zero doubt that if Dick Cheney was not in power, people wouldn't be dying needlessly tomorrow."

"I'm just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That's a fact."

Maher was speculating on what would have happened if Cheney had been killed by the Taliban.

IF Cheney had been killed by the Taliban there is just as much chance that the support for the war on terror would increase. This could just as easily have the effect of increasing the number of people who would die.

In either case speculating that the death of a politician would be good is worse than calling someone a name.

 

[dottedmint]

dude are you joking? How can you even compare those comments. Both are complete idiots, but c'mon, Coulter insulted an entire population of people. Maher just said the truth about a man who supports a war that has brought 655,000 casualties.

Using that logic is it not as bad to say....

"The death of (pick a pro-choice politician) would save the lives of unborn babies."

...than....

"(Pick a pro-choice politician) is a f@gg*t."

Saying the death of someone would be good is not as bad as calling them a name.

 

[EAGLE1]

Sounds like Maher was commenting on Cheney's life to me...

Anne's reffered to the goofy rehab the guy went to for saying a bad word. Why, is Edwards gay? I haven't heard how Edwards feels about being called a fag, if he even cares or not, only how other democrats feel and it's not really anybody else's business is it? Not even ours.

Fair enough. What part of Cheney's life does Maher refer to in your opinion then?

 

[EAGLE1]

Using that logic is it not as bad to say....

"The death of (pick a pro-choice politician) would save the lives of unborn babies."

...than....

"(Pick a pro-choice politician) is a f@gg*t."

Saying the death of someone would be good is not as bad as calling them a name.

Fair enough. So youd be against advocating the death of any politician? Sounds like a good idea to me. So why do so many right wingers call for the death of politicians they dont like?