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Couldn't help but cry when watching this.

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Especially at the sweet old ladies.

 
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Especially at the sweet old ladies.


thank you for sharing this, as heartbreaking as it is ... I'm willing to wager that these folks are in better, more loving relationships and are better parents than many of the legislators denying them the right to get married ... there's a certain irony in that, no?
 

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Little streams of man-liquid are galloping down my face. I suppose if love is genuine... marriage is just a legal contract.
 

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People don't cry over this. Ideologues cry over this.

If I make a video about going to apply for a CCW in New York and they tell me to go suck a lemon (like only New York can), I don't expect Constitutionalists to shed a tear for me.
 

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this is a denial of basic civil rights to homosexuals. i hope there's a Loving v Virginia case somewhere in the pipeline. the only reason that all of the state bans didn't get tossed is because there was no specific case in which injury could be demonstrated.
 

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I hope that someone brings up a suit real soon on these state laws.

It is even more sad because this is my home state where this was filmed. It breaks my heart, especially when it is older couples, like that one in their sixties who might not get recognized as legally married in the state where they live before they die because of stupid, unconstitutional laws.
 

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this is a denial of basic civil rights to homosexuals. i hope there's a Loving v Virginia case somewhere in the pipeline. the only reason that all of the state bans didn't get tossed is because there was no specific case in which injury could be demonstrated.

with the fall of doma and the fed recognizing SSM this is coming soon


it will be a easy win in my opinion too

how could anybody support nonsense like this.

say a couple is married in state A and they get all the fed and state rights and privileges.

one of them is travelling in state B that discriminates and gets in a car accident or dies. Are there actually ignorant assholes out there that think its right if that state/hospital etc doesn't notify the spouse of the death or to make medical decisions?

SHould a person be forced to testify against their spouse in that state?

Can a spouse legally cheat in that state?

etc etc etc etc

theres millions of scenarios that are beyond stupid to defend and soo this wrong will be fixed and all states will be practicing equality and stopping discrimination.
 
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with the fall of doma and the fed recognizing SSM this is coming soon


it will be a easy win in my opinion too

how could anybody support nonsense like this.

say a couple is married in state A and they get all the fed and state rights and privileges.

one of them is travelling in state B that discriminates and gets in a car accident or dies. Are there actually ignorant assholes out there that think its right if that state/hospital etc doesn't notify the spouse of the death or to make medical decisions?

SHould a person be forced to testify against their spouse in that state?

Can a spouse legally cheat in that state?

etc etc etc etc

theres millions of scenarios that are beyond stupid to defend and soo this wrong will be fixed and all states will be practicing equality and stopping discrimination.

How about gay couples in the military ... Do they lose their rights when they're stationed in a state that does not recognize their marriage? Heck of a way of saying, "Thanks for your service."
 

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How about gay couples in the military ... Do they lose their rights when they're stationed in a state that does not recognize their marriage? Heck of a way of saying, "Thanks for your service."

yep, again, another of many examples that will eventually make all states stop discrimination and get thier asses in line practice equality
 
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People don't cry over this. Ideologues cry over this.

If I make a video about going to apply for a CCW in New York and they tell me to go suck a lemon (like only New York can), I don't expect Constitutionalists to shed a tear for me.

The Sup. Ct. left the door open and my guess is that within five years every state will recognize SSM. I'm less sure about your CCW ...
 

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The Sup. Ct. left the door open and my guess is that within five years every state will recognize SSM. I'm less sure about your CCW ...

It's just another reason why FF&C is bunk and should be ended in its entirety these days. When it comes to SSM and CCW, anyone who thinks FF&C should be applicable for one and not the other (regardless which one you support and which one you're against), they're just a hypocrite that deserves a kick to the throat.

Also, I think 5 years is incredibly optimistic.

It's also why I'm against the repeal of DOMA. Many states allowed for gay marriage when this was still in its existence. All the removal does is set the groundwork to force red states to recognize something they do not want.

Full Faith and Credit is a tool for one state to exert its authority over 49 other states.
 
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It's just another reason why FF&C is bunk and should be ended in its entirety these days. When it comes to SSM and CCW, anyone who thinks FF&C should be applicable for one and not the other (regardless which one you support and which one you're against), they're just a hypocrite that deserves a kick to the throat.

Also, I think 5 years is incredibly optimistic.

It's also why I'm against the repeal of DOMA. Many states allowed for gay marriage when this was still in its existence. All the removal does is set the groundwork to force red states to recognize something they do not want.

Full Faith and Credit is a tool for one state to exert its authority over 49 other states.

ccw and SSM will be in all 50 states with in a decade.
 

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It's just another reason why FF&C is bunk and should be ended in its entirety these days. When it comes to SSM and CCW, anyone who thinks FF&C should be applicable for one and not the other (regardless which one you support and which one you're against), they're just a hypocrite that deserves a kick to the throat.

Also, I think 5 years is incredibly optimistic.

It's also why I'm against the repeal of DOMA. Many states allowed for gay marriage when this was still in its existence. All the removal does is set the groundwork to force red states to recognize something they do not want.

Full Faith and Credit is a tool for one state to exert its authority over 49 other states.

There are many who are for both. Assuming that someone supports marriage being valid under the FF&CC but that they oppose CCW is not right. They are separate issues, but many people do support both. And there are those who support neither (but I personally feel that there are fewer of these than that support both, but would have to do some research to know if this is true or not).
 

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There are many who are for both. Assuming that someone supports marriage being valid under the FF&CC but that they oppose CCW is not right. They are separate issues, but many people do support both. And there are those who support neither (but I personally feel that there are fewer of these than that support both, but would have to do some research to know if this is true or not).

I support both. I like to think that anyone sensible would support both. Only extreme ideologues support one but not the other. Those are the ones that the country would be better off if they died somehow.
 
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There are many who are for both. Assuming that someone supports marriage being valid under the FF&CC but that they oppose CCW is not right. They are separate issues, but many people do support both. And there are those who support neither (but I personally feel that there are fewer of these than that support both, but would have to do some research to know if this is true or not).

I think a great deal of people support both.
 

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I support both. I like to think that anyone sensible would support both. Only extreme ideologues support one but not the other. Those are the ones that the country would be better off if they died somehow.

I agree with this to a point. I don't feel comfortable wishing for anyone to die, but some ideals would certainly be good to die off. I would much rather that be accomplished by a change in those ideals rather than a change in the population causing a de facto change in ideals.
 

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Most of the anger in that statement is the result of Firefox screwing up left and right on me today.
 

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Not gonna lie. I didn't cry one tear. What I did think was "I hope I don't ever get a mental picture of Rose and Blanche going spelunking on each other".

I happen to like my lunch.
 

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Not gonna lie. I didn't cry one tear. What I did think was "I hope I don't ever get a mental picture of Rose and Blanche going spelunking on each other".

I happen to like my lunch.

I'm sure that you're no prize hog yourself.

At least the old ladies don't have such ugly personalities.
 

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So is that your argument against heterosexual marriage too?

It's one of mine.

When it comes to marriage, the only thing I want more than gays to be married is for everyone to not be married.

Actually, lemme rephrase that...everyone not to be subsidized through marriage.
 

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It's one of mine.

When it comes to marriage, the only thing I want more than gays to be married is for everyone to not be married.

Actually, lemme rephrase that...everyone not to be subsidized through marriage.
Ok, I agree that it would be best for government to get out of marriage. But that question wasn't directed at you.
 
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