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Corey Lewandowski out as Trump campaign manager

Hawkeye10 said:
Time will tell, but as you know according to me we are into Gravy Time, Don has already done yeoman's service in support of the rebellion.
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Bernie, too.
 
Chomsky said:
Bernie, too.
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True, he certainly has done better than I figured he would, but I picked the right horse for the job.

Bernie could have won the nomination, had he tried.

Seriously.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
True, he certainly has done better than I figured he would, but I picked the right horse for the job.

Bernie could have won the nomination, had he tried.

Seriously.
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A socialist & a capitalist - the debates would've been fascinating and mind expanding!
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Time will tell, but as you know according to me we are into Gravy Time, Don has already done yeoman's service in support of the rebellion.
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The "rebellion" has handed the election to Hillary Clinton, and may very likely hand over control of the Senate to her party. I liked pre-rebellion America better.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Trump dumps campaign manager | TheHill

Lewandowski had little to offer, all he ever was was a glorified event and office manager, because Trump wanted to do the heavy lifting himself. Hopefully Trump is now ready to become a real politician, get professional.
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If all Lewandowski was "was a glorified event and office manager," then what difference will his absence make other than giving the appearance of change?
 
manise said:
If all Lewandowski was "was a glorified event and office manager," then what difference will his absence make other than giving the appearance of change?
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According to reports even though Manafort was able to deprive Corey of some of his access to Trump he was causing trouble with-in the campaign with people whom he had hired and who felt a loyalty to him. Corey denies it, and also denies that he had any issues with either Ivanka or her husband, but the fact that Trump fired him by phone and had him escorted out by security tells me that Trump thinks he did something. For those counting we now have at least three different reasons being reported:

1) Manafort ultimatum.
2) Ivanka ultimatum
3) Corey was ****ing with a Trump family member (Ivanka's husband), which pissed Trump off.

I am thinking #1 is most likely, but we will see.

The truth will come out.

I like the truth.
 
Very interesting piece here, 5 hours old:

Lewandowski’s dismissal has been in the works for weeks, and it marks the culmination of an intense lobbying campaign by Trump’s three oldest children — Ivanka, Eric, and Don Jr. — as well as allies of campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who eclipsed Lewandowski to some extent when Trump brought him on earlier this year. For most of the campaign, Trump remained loyal to Lewandowski even during his many scandals, such as the battery charge for allegedly roughing up a female Breitbart News reporter. But in recent weeks, according to sources, Lewandowski crossed lines that ultimately gave his detractors enough ammunition to convince Trump to dump him.

Sources said one of Lewandowski’s mistakes was leaking dirt about Ivanka’s husband, Jared Kushner, to reporters. Word of Lewandowski’s whisper campaign made its way back to Manafort allies. Other Lewandowski detractors told Trump that the soap opera around Lewandowski was getting the campaign off message. And they were also frustrated that Lewandowski seemed to encourage Trump’s worst behavior, including his attempts to delegitimize the Indiana-born federal judge presiding over Trump University by describing him as a “Mexican.
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But now with Trump’s poll numbers falling well behind Hillary Clinton's, Lewandowski lost his bulwark — and Trump was finally willing to fire him. As one adviser put it to me: “The real lesson here is everyone is expendable except for the kids. It’s tribal.”
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/06/trump-kids-ousted-corey-lewandowski.html
 
Hawkeye10 said:
According to reports even though Manafort was able to deprive Corey of some of his access to Trump he was causing trouble with-in the campaign with people whom he had hired and who felt a loyalty to him. Corey denies it, and also denies that he had any issues with either Ivanka or her husband, but the fact that Trump fired him by phone and had him escorted out by security tells me that Trump thinks he did something. For those counting we now have at least three different reasons being reported:

1) Manafort ultimatum.
2) Ivanka ultimatum
3) Corey was ****ing with a Trump family member (Ivanka's husband), which pissed Trump off.

I am thinking #1 is most likely, but we will see.

The truth will come out.

I like the truth.
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Hawkeye10 said:
According to reports even though Manafort was able to deprive Corey of some of his access to Trump he was causing trouble with-in the campaign with people whom he had hired and who felt a loyalty to him. Corey denies it, and also denies that he had any issues with either Ivanka or her husband, but the fact that Trump fired him by phone and had him escorted out by security tells me that Trump thinks he did something. For those counting we now have at least three different reasons being reported:

1) Manafort ultimatum.
2) Ivanka ultimatum
3) Corey was ****ing with a Trump family member (Ivanka's husband), which pissed Trump off.

I am thinking #1 is most likely, but we will see.

The truth will come out.

I like the truth.
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I don't doubt that any or all of the scenarios you listed apply to the Lewandowski firing, but it still doesn't explain how this elimination of a man who doesn't seem all that important in the Trump campaign will actually change its fundamentals. Trump's slumping polls, which even he acknowledges now, happened after Trump's rant against the federal judge and subsequent gaffes. How exactly does Manafort prevent these unforced errors? Unclear.

In my view, this is all smoke and mirrors designed to prevent a political brawl in Cleveland. If Trump can say, "Hey, look, I'm shaking up my campaign, so stop bad mouthing me and get on the bandwagon," it may prevent a convention walk out or similar embarassments that could mar what should be a Trump coronation in July. We'll see if that works--nothing else has for the past 3 weeks.

Ironic, really, since it looked just a month ago like Hillary would have the unity problem at her convention.
 
manise said:
I don't doubt that any or all of the scenarios you listed apply to the Lewandowski firing, but it still doesn't explain how this elimination of a man who doesn't seem all that important in the Trump campaign will actually change its fundamentals. Trump's slumping polls, which even he acknowledges now, happened after Trump's rant against the federal judge and subsequent gaffes. How exactly does Manafort prevent these unforced errors? Unclear.

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It all depends upon how much the Trumps have learned to trust Manafort in the short time they have known him. Everybody but me seems to discount the idea that Trump will follow the directions of people that he trusts that he views as more subject matter experts than him....why I have no idea, Trump did not get to be Trump by ignoring reality, or by failing to learn his lessons, or by not learning who to listen to and who to ignore.

Unless I miss my guess Manafort was telling Trump with-in weeks of arrival that Corey had to go, now that according to reports all the Trumps agree with him he might just have earned a lot of credibility. I dont doubt for a second that if the stars aline Manafort has the chops to run a top level campaign.

Keep an eye on Twitter, Trump just took a 14 hour break, and then only said:
I will be interviewed on @oreillyfactor now. Enjoy!
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

I think it likely that his twitter content changes as of right now, because Trump is now sure that he needs a new game.
 
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Trump deleted his last Tweet, so now he is on a 17 hour pause.

Things, they are a'changing.
 
tres borrachos said:
I'm not going to bet my mortgage that Manafort will have any success turning that hideous maniac into a gentleman. Trump is now, always was, and always will be nothing but a loud mouthed, arrogant know nothing. Like I said, Corey was perfect for him. Corey is also loud mouthed and arrogant. That's the Trump brand.
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Trump believes he is in another reality tv show. He is so over his head in this that even he can't believe he got the nomination.

There will be a movie about this some day.
 
Crosscheck said:
Trump believes he is in another reality tv show. He is so over his head in this that even he can't believe he got the nomination.

There will be a movie about this some day.
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And it will be as well reviewed as Showgirls. And probably with the same central story.
 
Lewandowski is out because Trump's kids and his pro-Russia top-aide (Manafort) realized some truths:

1) The Trump campaign has not successfully transitioned from primary-centric to general election-centric.

2) Trump has not engaged in fundraising since he decided in May that he would not self-fund his campaign. There is little money for TV ads etc.
 
I guess this as good as a place as any to put this.

CNN hires Corey Lewandowski as political commentator

Three days after being ousted from the Donald Trump campaign, Corey Lewandowski is a political commentator for CNN.

On Thursday Lewandowski joined CNN's stable of political experts who appear across the channel's newscasts and talk shows.

For CNN executives, the hiring was a coup. Lewandowski brings first-hand experience running a historic presidential campaign.

But his hiring was also highly controversial, even within the newsroom, in part because he has a reputation for being hostile toward journalists.

There are also swirling questions about whether Lewandowski is still bound to Trump somehow.

Like other Trump employees, he signed a non-disclosure agreement that ensures he will not share confidential information.

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CNN hires Corey Lewandowski as political commentator​


Poor Michelle Fields.
 
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